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Old 07-01-2008, 06:27 PM   #1
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I'm parting out a Subaru Legacy and am removing the suspension and drivetrain. I need to get it out of my garage so a scrap metal dude can come get it. I need a good way of getting it onto somebody's flatbed trailer. It's on jackstands right now. Who's feeling creative?

Do they make undercarraige dollies? Any great ideas besides dragging it on the concrete (don't want to do that!) I'd like to pull the rear axles and knuckles and am not sure how I'll get the car out of the garage if I do so.

Winning idea gets $5 via Paypal =]

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PS - I can't weld, so no ideas about just welding a frame with wheels up!
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Old 07-01-2008, 07:50 PM   #2
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forklift
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wheres my $5

but hey, its an idea
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Old 07-01-2008, 09:17 PM   #3
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^^ The forklift idea sounds funny, although it may work.

I'm not sure how much space you have to get at the car, or how big your garage is. But, if you can get a large bobcat or skidsteer with forks on it, you can probably secure the car, pull it out and lift it onto the flatbed.
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:05 PM   #4
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There's always the ideas of using a jack? try to support the jack to a flat surface and maybe tied it down in place and pull towards the flat bed? wtf I dunno..you might need 2 jacks, 1 for the front and the other for the rear?
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:15 PM   #5
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Do you have like a couple dozen fairly straight 4 feet long (or so) logs ?

Just lay them on your garage (under the car body) and put a few in front of the car out on the driveway. With out a motor, transmission, and most of the suspension the car should be light enough to drop off the jack stands on to the logs, and you should be able to push whats left of the body structure out on to the driveway with out sliding anything.

Hopefully these logs will be fairly round so they will roll smoothly instead of sliding.

If the car does get hung up on a log you may have to resort to pulling it out of your garage with the aid of a "come-along", a winch, or even a tow rope attached to another vehicle. Even if a log refuses to roll... its not the end of the world if it gets dragged a bit across your garage floor, as there wont be any gouges into the concrete.

EDIT: Does the flat bed trailer have a winch on it ?
...and just how high off the ground does the vehicle have to be in order to get it up on to the trailer ?

Second Edit: some used round wooden fence posts would be ideal for this.

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Old 07-01-2008, 11:23 PM   #6
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Yeah, you could purchase "wheel dollies" that will fit under the car..
I *think* http://www.HarborFreight.com still sells these.. but seeing that this is likely just a one time thing, using some logs might work out best for you.

EDIT: Yes, Harbour Freight sells wheel dollies (they are designed to be placed underneath a wheel - but can be placed more or less anywhere).

Part Number: 38959-1VGA A 4 Piece Vehicle Dolly Set will run you $120.00... too much if this is just a one-time thing.

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Old 07-02-2008, 01:35 PM   #7
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Do you have like a couple dozen fairly straight 4 feet long (or so) logs ?

Just lay them on your garage (under the car body) and put a few in front of the car out on the driveway. With out a motor, transmission, and most of the suspension the car should be light enough to drop off the jack stands on to the logs, and you should be able to push whats left of the body structure out on to the driveway with out sliding anything.
This is a great idea! So far the best... More along the lines of what I was looking for. I was also thinking I could just get some large chunks of wood and bolt them to the car, and just drag the car along that way. I will see what kind of logs I can find though.

Keep the ideas coming! And yeah, I think $120 is too much for a set of dollies I'll use once.

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Old 07-03-2008, 12:54 AM   #8
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Pour hundreds of thousands of ball bearing all over the floor, or smear gallons and gallons of Crisco. Then moving anything is a breeze.

Either a forklift or jacks, the have the wheel chock dollies, but isn't any good without wheels!
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Old 07-03-2008, 11:07 AM   #9
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The trailer should be lower than the jack stands, right? Back the trailer up as close as you can to the jack stands, Put two 4X4s under the car with the fronts up on the trailer. Winch, electric or come-a-long the car onto the trailer. It will fall off the jack forward and land on the trailer and the 4X4s. I would think 8' would be good. The 4x4s may try to shift so you may need to put a srew or two in the bottom of them that will stop against the back of the trailer. You could pull in one to two 4X4s also if you need to get it off semi-easy.

Landscape lumber is not structurally rated and is cheaper. It should be fine for this.

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Old 07-03-2008, 11:45 AM   #10
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The trailer should be lower than the jack stands, right? Back the trailer up as close as you can to the jack stands, Put two 4X4s under the car with the fronts up on the trailer. Winch, electric or come-a-long the car onto the trailer. It will fall off the jack forward and land on the trailer and the 4X4s. I would think 8' would be good. The 4x4s may try to shift so you may need to put a srew or two in the bottom of them that will stop against the back of the trailer. You could pull in one to two 4X4s also if you need to get it off semi-easy.

Landscape lumber is not structurally rated and is cheaper. It should be fine for this.

Peace,

Greg
It sounds like you've done this before? Haha. I'll hopefully be dumping the car next week so I'll let you know what I go with and get $5 to whoever's idea I use.

Thanks!
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Old 07-03-2008, 05:00 PM   #11
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Just grab a sawzall and hack it up into pieces small enough to lift. You'd be amazed how quickly you can turn a car into manageable pieces.

Here's one I prepared earlier:



And another:



The grinder makes impressive sparks, but the sawzall is much more efficient.

If you do want to move it in one piece you'll find that the body is quite light with everything stripped out. A couple of furniture dollies and some 2x4s should make quite a usable rig to roll it around.
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Old 07-03-2008, 05:59 PM   #12
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I didn't read the reply's of the other members but when I parted out my GT it was left on jack stands. When the flay bed came we backed it up to the rear jack stands and pulled the car on. Once the rear was off the stand we moved them and puller more till the front came off. It scraped my drive way but it was any sweat off my sack, it is out of my yard. Plus you can't see the marks anymore.
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Old 07-13-2008, 11:45 PM   #13
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Cutting it in half with the sawzall/angle grinder is a great way to go about it.
I managed to drag one chasis around with an engine hoist, that was not much fun tho
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Old 07-15-2008, 11:48 PM   #14
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If you do want to move it in one piece you'll find that the body is quite light with everything stripped out. A couple of furniture dollies and some 2x4s should make quite a usable rig to roll it around.
This is also a good idea. Harbor Freight sells 1,000 pound rated furniture dollies for between $12.00 and $20.00 plus shipping and tax. While most modern heavy appliances and furniture do come with wheels it wouldnt hurt to have a spare set of wheels just in case. Once you get it out of the garage it should be a piece of cake to get it up on a tilt bed wrecker.
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:14 PM   #15
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Two furniture dollies. One centered in the front one in the back. They probably rent them at Uhaul.
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Old 07-17-2008, 02:11 PM   #16
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no weight there ......get a winch or a come along and raise the vehicle and set it on the truck
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