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Old 07-17-2008, 12:23 AM   #1
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What the hell is the name of that style of racing?
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Old 07-17-2008, 12:26 AM   #2
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World Cup Downhill?
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Old 07-17-2008, 12:33 AM   #3
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Old 07-17-2008, 12:44 AM   #4
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Thats it? Seems more to it than just going down a hill .. but .. hey .. what do I know?
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Old 07-17-2008, 12:59 AM   #5
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They don't really climb at all in those bikes, so DH is a good name for it.

I would also call it insane. I much prefer XC.

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Old 07-17-2008, 01:01 AM   #6
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yes, downhill soo much fun
but another expensive hobby

he beat me in teh last race in fontana, by over a min on a 2min corce LOL i suck. i think his time was under 2min and mine was up over 3min LOL
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:20 AM   #7
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Bump for pure insanity
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:20 AM   #8
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They don't really climb at all in those bikes, so DH is a good name for it.

I would also call it insane. I much prefer XC.

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What kind of bike is he using? Is it disposable or something?
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:29 AM   #9
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What kind of bike is he using? Is it disposable or something?
Prolly a Santa Cruz v10, I'm guessing a $5-6K bike.

http://www.santacruzmtb.com/v10/
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:33 AM   #10
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Good pick on the video.

I used to ride with Greg Minnaar. Totally down to earth and awesome guy!
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:36 AM   #11
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What kind of bike is he using? Is it disposable or something?
Nope. Santa Cruz V10 I believe. 10" rear travel, 8" front travel (depending on fork) 203-220mm hydraulic disc brakes, etc. etc. etc. About 40# (average XC bike is 25-30#).

http://www.santacruzmtb.com/v10/

This is my kind of riding, though not to this magnitude:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYCqjuV0ZPU

Hauling ass on fast trails, airing over stuff.

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Old 07-17-2008, 11:43 AM   #12
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It looks like a world cup downhill course. the bike appears to be a santa cruz sydacate team bike like richde said it looks like a v-10 but hard to tell.
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:43 AM   #13
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From my days on the bike these are the moments I remember the best...

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I got into MTBing in the 90's so I'm more of a XC guy. I honestly think the reason DH and freeride/all mountain has taken over the sport is because you need 70% nerve and 30% strength/endurance. Therefore, it is easier for a couch potato to go out on the weekends now and then and be a "Mountain Biker" you just need guts. With XC, you need to put in hours to keep a certain fitness level. It was more like being a roadie with more bike handling skills and less strategy. Hell I remember when a hard tail with 80mm of travel was radical. Just my .02(signed closet weight weenie)
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:50 AM   #15
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I got into MTBing in the 90's so I'm more of a XC guy. I honestly think the reason DH and freeride/all mountain has taken over the sport is because you need 70% nerve and 30% strength/endurance. Therefore, it is easier for a couch potato to go out on the weekends now and then and be a "Mountain Biker" you just need guts. With XC, you need to put in hours to keep a certain fitness level. It was more like being a roadie with more bike handling skills and less strategy. Hell I remember when a hard tail with 80mm of travel was radical. Just my .02(signed closet weight weenie)
I used to ride non suspended, fat tube aluminum. With thumb shifters. DX thumb shifters.
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I got into MTBing in the 90's so I'm more of a XC guy. I honestly think the reason DH and freeride/all mountain has taken over the sport is because you need 70% nerve and 30% strength/endurance. Therefore, it is easier for a couch potato to go out on the weekends now and then and be a "Mountain Biker" you just need guts. With XC, you need to put in hours to keep a certain fitness level. It was more like being a roadie with more bike handling skills and less strategy. Hell I remember when a hard tail with 80mm of travel was radical. Just my .02(signed closet weight weenie)
Downhilling is a totally different skill, possibly harder to attain than an XC racer's cardiovascular fitness because it's more of an art than simply pedaling harder than your competitor. There's guys with varying ratios of skill between bike handling and fitness, but the top DH guys are not much less fit than an XC racer. Look at Marla Streb, pro-downhiller, turns around to win the SSWC, and she wasn't too young at that point either.

I've ridden with XC racers that had horrible skills, not as if XC racing requires much anyways. They were far fitter than me, but as soon as a technical section came up, I caught right back up.

<- Old Skool MTBer since the dark ages of ~`92. Full suspension is a good thing and chairlift assisted rides are very fun.
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Old 07-17-2008, 12:22 PM   #17
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Shifters? You had shifters? Chair rides?


When I got into mountain biking you were lucky to get rubber tires. Usually we would just slice off and hollow out a tree trunk section. Lets see you free ride with wooden wheels.



Seriously, I started mountain biking in 87. Thumbshifters actually work pretty well. I have been a XC rider since then. Still ride a hard tail with 100mm fork (was 80mm until recently) and rim brakes.
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Downhilling is a totally different skill, possibly harder to attain than an XC racer's cardiovascular fitness because it's more of an art than simply pedaling harder than your competitor. There's guys with varying ratios of skill between bike handling and fitness, but the top DH guys are not much less fit than an XC racer. Look at Marla Streb, pro-downhiller, turns around to win the SSWC, and she wasn't too young at that point either.

I've ridden with XC racers that had horrible skills, not as if XC racing requires much anyways. They were far fitter than me, but as soon as a technical section came up, I caught right back up.

<- Old Skool MTBer since the dark ages of ~`92. Full suspension is a good thing and chairlift assisted rides are very fun.
Yup. The timing and finesse of downhilling is life and death critical at pro speeds. It's much more than having the 'spensivest bike and irrational lack of fear. It's not as demanding as motocross, but some of the arm and leg strength required can be similar.

< - Old Skook MTBer since the dark ages of ~ '88. I've done 50mph downhills on a rigid Giant Iguana with a bent steel fork.

XC, hardtail, ass-up-like-a-cat riding is road riding to me. Yeah, it's more efficient going uphill from point A - B on smooth trails, but there are very few of those around here. I mostly ride undulating, gnarled woods trails littered with rocks and detritus.

Full Suspension aggressive trail > hardtail smooth trail > dentist visit > road riding > trail running > stapling my balls > road running

My Specialized Pitch is such a good mix of efficiency and burl. It climbs better than my 2003 Enduro and descends 10x better.
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Shifters? You had shifters? Chair rides?


When I got into mountain biking you were lucky to get rubber tires. Usually we would just slice off and hollow out a tree trunk section. Lets see you free ride with wooden wheels.



Seriously, I started mountain biking in 87. Thumbshifters actually work pretty well. I have been a XC rider since then. Still ride a hard tail with 100mm fork (was 80mm until recently) and rim brakes.
Thumb shifters baby... shifted thru all 5 cogs at once!
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Thumb shifters baby... shifted thru all 5 cogs at once!
Sram 1:1 shifters will downshift through 3-4 at a time. w00 to tha izz00t.
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Yup. The timing and finesse of downhilling is life and death critical at pro speeds. It's much more than having the 'spensivest bike and irrational lack of fear. It's not as demanding as motocross, but some of the arm and leg strength required can be similar.

< - Old Skook MTBer since the dark ages of ~ '88. I've done 50mph downhills on a rigid Giant Iguana with a bent steel fork.

XC, hardtail, ass-up-like-a-cat riding is road riding to me. Yeah, it's more efficient going uphill from point A - B on smooth trails, but there are very few of those around here. I mostly ride undulating, gnarled woods trails littered with rocks and detritus.

Full Suspension aggressive trail > hardtail smooth trail > dentist visit > road riding > trail running > stapling my balls > road running

My Specialized Pitch is such a good mix of efficiency and burl. It climbs better than my 2003 Enduro and descends 10x better.
I've gotten up some nice speed back in the mid 90s on my GT Tequesta as well. Mind you, I haven't gone anywhere serious with it but up at the lutsen mountain bike park on teh north shore there used to be some nice sections. I actually proffered my completely nonsuspended bike to the full suspension bike I rented up there one time, but that was because even though you can start off on a chairlift there you still have quite a few climbing sections.

I wish I lived somewhere that had more terrain then illinois, that way I could get into mountain biking again.
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Damn straight.

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So will my non-rapid rise XT triggers.
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WTF .. are you lot speaking spanish?
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didn't realize there were other DH junkies in the OT
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