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Old 07-18-2008, 01:43 AM   #1
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i was looking into replacing my foglights on my bugeye, anyone have any suggestions on which ones to get? has to be HID look great and mean =D
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Old 07-20-2008, 07:34 PM   #2
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Couple things here..

1) Hid fogs are going to cost you at least $500. At the very minimum.
2) No point in Hid's if you still want to run the lights as fog lights. Driving lights I could see, but it's a waste of the hard earned cash to run hid fogs. Just my .02
3) Hella offers both the ff500 and the ff1000 that will fit in place of your factory lights. Driving or fog applications. You can use up to 100w bulbs in both of these, which is already too much for street use.

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Old 07-20-2008, 08:32 PM   #3
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Old 07-21-2008, 08:09 AM   #4
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1. Pick-up some Hella FF1000's, not the 500$ HID ones, just the standard halogen bulb ones.

2. Buy a cheap HID conversion kit, for a H1 bulbtype (not Bi-xenon, that's going to be more money, spent un-needed)

3. Replace halogen bulb with the Xenon set, and wire up the balasts
Maybe, if your HID lamp is very large, you have to remove a little of the inside of the ff1000 housing

4. Voila, you now have the same HID FF1000's for less then half price.

I know universal Xenon in the headlights without changing reflectors isn't good, but this works, as the FF1000 reflector is designed better (the factory HID FF1000's use the same reflector as a standard FF1000 set)
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Old 01-25-2009, 06:32 PM   #5
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Why cant i put the ebay ones in my existing 06 foglights?
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Old 01-25-2009, 06:58 PM   #6
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cause some people think that they blind the crap out of the person in front of them. I think it should be fine because the fogs sit lower then the head lights and the beam in more wide spread instead of all over the place.
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Old 01-25-2009, 08:40 PM   #7
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(the factory HID FF1000's use the same reflector as a standard FF1000 set)
show me where you got this conclusion.


because you're wrong.
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Old 01-25-2009, 08:42 PM   #8
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cause some people think that they blind the crap out of the person in front of them. I think it should be fine because the fogs sit lower then the head lights and the beam in more wide spread instead of all over the place.
though fog beams are flat and wide, they still have glare. you shouldn't be using fogs in clear conditions, and if you have HIDs in them they will have a LOT more glare above cutoff just because the source is brighter, not to mention the thrown off focus.
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Old 01-25-2009, 11:14 PM   #9
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1. Pick-up some Hella FF1000's, not the 500$ HID ones, just the standard halogen bulb ones.

2. Buy a cheap HID conversion kit, for a H1 bulbtype (not Bi-xenon, that's going to be more money, spent un-needed)

3. Replace halogen bulb with the Xenon set, and wire up the balasts
Maybe, if your HID lamp is very large, you have to remove a little of the inside of the ff1000 housing

4. Voila, you now have the same HID FF1000's for less then half price.

I know universal Xenon in the headlights without changing reflectors isn't good, but this works, as the FF1000 reflector is designed better (the factory HID FF1000's use the same reflector as a standard FF1000 set)
That is the absolute worst post I have seen in a long time.

If I knew where you lived, I would steal your keyboard, so you wouldn't be able to give out any more advice like that.

I don't even think they make FF1000's in a Fog light. To the best of my knowledge they make a halogen pencil, halogen driving, halogen driving with a city light, and an HID driving; and I know all four of those have different reflector bowls.

Here is the HID driving one. Look at the reflector.


Here is the Halogen driving one.


It might be hard to tell, but the HID one is much deeper.



To the OP. Don't put HIDs in halogen lights of any type. It is not the same thing as buying HID fog lights from Hella. Buying a set of halogen fogs and putting an HID kit in them would ruin their beam pattern.


I wouldn't even recommend HID fog lights in any form whether they are HID housings or not. The color of HID light is not great for fog. Halogen or selective yellow halogen is much better in bad weather. The other thing is, fog lights light up the foreground right in front of the car and out to the sides. When the weather is not that bad and you use fog lights the bright foreground light dilates your pupils and lessens your distance vision. When you put HID fog lights on the car, that put out 3 or so times the light, this effect is much, much worse. It would have to be absolutely horribly fogy outside for them to offer a benefit and not be a hindrance to your vision.

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Old 01-25-2009, 11:49 PM   #10
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Why cant i put the ebay ones in my existing 06 foglights?

I assume you mean ebay HID kits. The answer is because foglights aren't supposed to be bright, nor are they supposed to have so much blue.

Not to mention how crappy it is to put HID bulbs in halogen lamps.

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the factory HID FF1000's use the same reflector as a standard FF1000 set
Unlikely, since one uses an H1 halogen bulb and the other uses a D2S bulb.
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Old 01-29-2009, 11:25 AM   #11
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hella 500's... work great, easy to install, and they don't cost much at all. they need a mounting bracket unless you fab your own, but even with the bracket, i spent under $100 shipped to my door. add some rockblocker to the lenses and you're set. they have both yellow and clear fog lenses available. i used clear because i don't like the yellow lens look, and if i do want a yellow fog down the line, i can just swap in a good yellow replacement bulb. save the money you would have spent on HID fogs for something more useful.
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Old 01-29-2009, 06:29 PM   #12
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Rule of thumb.....never ever put HIDs into halogens. Ever.
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Unlikely, since one uses an H1 halogen bulb and the other uses a D2S bulb.
REflector has a different hole in it where the bulb protrudes, the rest of the reflector is het same.Open one up and see for yourself.
I did.
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Old 01-30-2009, 12:28 PM   #14
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REflector has a different hole in it where the bulb protrudes, the rest of the reflector is het same.Open one up and see for yourself.
I did.
so youre able to see the extremely small differences on angles and surface areas of the reflector? yeah, didnt think so.

they ARE different.
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Old 01-30-2009, 03:38 PM   #15
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yeah looking at it is not a valid diagnostic reading. some are obviously different but most of the time, no. the curve of each section is probably slightly different.
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