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Old 07-22-2008, 05:11 PM   #1
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Yep I know, it's still 95 degrees and I'm already looking for snow tires. I figure that by the time winter comes, these snow tires will be more expensive. I'll be driving the car in snow country (Mammoth, CA) from Dec-Apr. Is it true that the narrower the dimension (OEM wheel is 16 x 6.5), the better a tire handles the snow/ice, since it can "slice" through better? If so, I'm gonna put the Blizzak WS-60 on stock rims, and get some 17's with performance tires for warmer months. Is that a good idea? Can stock rims handle snow tires?

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Old 07-22-2008, 06:29 PM   #2
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yes, yes and yes... You give up some major handling with snow tires though, mind that... think jello.. I'd use stock sized snows personally..
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Old 07-22-2008, 06:40 PM   #3
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The blizzaks are super-soft in anything above 0* weather. I would dodge them unless you will really be driving in snow constantly or if the weather is _really_ cold all the time. Find something with a little less siping and a bit harder compound if you'll be driving on tarmac for a good portion of the time.

I'm selling my blizzaks after this winter, when i move back home from minnesota. They are simply too soft.
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Old 07-22-2008, 11:48 PM   #4
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I run the Hancook Icebears on my STI in the
winter. They are 205/50 and are pretty damn
good in the snow. They have a somewhat stiff
sidewall and are good on dry pavement. Fun
to driff with. You'll like them.
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Old 07-23-2008, 01:09 AM   #5
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You have a 2.5i, I'd stick with stock size rubber.

Personally I have dedicated 16" steelies with 205/55 r16 Dunlop Wintersport 3Ds. Just a bit more sidewall for compliance and slightly narrower footprint to help dig through deep snow. Haven't been stuck yet in these (knocks rather loudly on wood).

Oh and for anyone wondering, 16" steel wheels clear the 4pots on 06-07 cars with tons of room to spare.
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Old 07-23-2008, 01:10 AM   #6
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The blizzaks are super-soft in anything above 0* weather. I would dodge them unless you will really be driving in snow constantly or if the weather is _really_ cold all the time. Find something with a little less siping and a bit harder compound if you'll be driving on tarmac for a good portion of the time.

I'm selling my blizzaks after this winter, when i move back home from minnesota. They are simply too soft.
Blizzaks are great for anything other than a performance car, I do agree with you on that. Too squirmy and compliant for our cars, but on my old BF Legacy it was unstoppable.
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Old 07-23-2008, 04:57 PM   #7
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Hmmm. The car will NOT be driven strictly on snow only during the winter months. So Blizzaks are out. I drive from Bakersfield (where there's never any snow) to Mammoth (4 hour drive). I'm hoping to find some tires that I can drive on to my destination, without having to put some chains on once I get there. I think I need some "compromise" winter/summer tires, with more emphasis on winter.

I did read through the owner's manual, and I recall something about don't use chains.
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Old 07-23-2008, 07:06 PM   #8
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A "performance" winter tire will probably work better for pavement duties.

I've heard good things about the wintersport 3D's, generally comparing well to nokian's offerings (some of the best winter tires on the market are nokians, 200 bucks a corner, though). The blizzak LM's are fairly popular, too.


EDIT: i should say that my previous post is in reference to the WS tires. I have WS-60's.
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:17 PM   #9
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i spend winters in both utah and wyoming and i've been happy with yokohama as430's. they're a high performance all-season tire
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:36 PM   #10
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hmm
i live in upstate New York (very cold:coldest day of winter is prob. -20 w/ wind chill, lots of snow and lots of ice)
would any of you recommend studded snow tires or is that overkill because im pretty sure they are legal in the winter months
or is it preference ?
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Old 07-23-2008, 10:25 PM   #11
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is it ok to go with a taller, but narrow tire for winter? i use 245-40-17 on an 8.5 inch rim in the summer, and was thinking about switching to a 215-50-17 for the winter on 04sti bbs. would work well, or should i stick with 225-45, or should i do 225-50-17
i would like my car to sit a little higher in the winter without making any suspension changes (other than camber)
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:39 AM   #12
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is it ok to go with a taller, but narrow tire for winter? i use 245-40-17 on an 8.5 inch rim in the summer, and was thinking about switching to a 215-50-17 for the winter on 04sti bbs. would work well, or should i stick with 225-45, or should i do 225-50-17
i would like my car to sit a little higher in the winter without making any suspension changes (other than camber)
I don't see why not.
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:41 AM   #13
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hmm
i live in upstate New York (very cold:coldest day of winter is prob. -20 w/ wind chill, lots of snow and lots of ice)
would any of you recommend studded snow tires or is that overkill because im pretty sure they are legal in the winter months
or is it preference ?
Studs are the only way for a tire to get any kind of grip on pure ice, which you guys tend to get a lot of, so if that is a concern for you go for studs. Even the best studless tire won't turn or stop on a solid sheet of ice under certain circumstances.
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Studs are the only way for a tire to get any kind of grip on pure ice, which you guys tend to get a lot of, so if that is a concern for you go for studs. Even the best studless tire won't turn or stop on a solid sheet of ice under certain circumstances.
thanx for the reply
I'm thinking about General Altimax Arctic 205/55R-16Q
they are 73$ per tire ( plus 15 $ for studs per tire)
i noticed earlier in the tread it said skinny tires work better
should i go thinner than 205 in the future ?

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Old 07-24-2008, 11:21 AM   #15
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if you're going to be driving in mammoth, do NOT listen to anyone who suggests all-season tires.

nokian rsi's ftw
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