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Old 07-24-2008, 06:15 PM   #1
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C/N: Pure electric, US model to have at least 100-mile range. And mass-market from the start?

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Nissan Says Electric Cars Will Be Quickly Profitable

By NICK BUNKLEY
Published: July 23, 2008

FRANKLIN, Tenn. — The electric cars that Nissan Motor plans to start selling by 2010 will have varying capabilities depending on a given country’s driving patterns, but all will be priced competitively and will generate profits, company executives said Tuesday.

Nissan’s chief executive, Carlos Ghosn, said that any electric car the company sold in the United States would need a range of at least 100 miles between charges to be practical, but that European drivers could make do with about half that range. Tolerance for the time it takes to recharge such a car may vary widely as well, he said.

One aspect that Mr. Ghosn said would remain constant, however, is that the cars would produce zero tailpipe emissions, unlike some vehicles being developed by rivals that have range-extending gasoline engines to power the car after its battery is depleted. Building cars powered by alternative fuels but that still use oil is “unsustainable,” he said.

“I want a pure electric car. I don’t want a range extender. I don’t want another hybrid,” Mr. Ghosn told reporters after a ceremony to dedicate Nissan’s new North American headquarters in Franklin, an affluent suburb in the hills south of Nashville. “It’s not going to be zero emissions in certain conditions. It’s going to be zero emissions.”

In May, Mr. Ghosn asserted that Nissan would, within two years, become the first automaker to sell a mass-market, zero-emission vehicle in the United States. The company plans to sell such cars globally by 2012.

But Nissan does not intend to reach those milestones merely for show, said Dominique Thormann, its senior vice president for finance in North America. In an interview, Mr. Thormann said Nissan would not sell the cars unless it could make a profit immediately, at an affordable price.

“Everything that we develop, we develop for profits,” he said. “We make money on all our cars. We do not have loss leaders.”

To help in its development of electric cars, Nissan said Tuesday that it would work with the state of Tennessee and its largest electric utility, the Tennessee Valley Authority, to study and perhaps install infrastructure like charging stations. The automaker has begun similar efforts in Denmark, Israel and Portugal, but the United States presents a far greater opportunity for Nissan to market electric cars.

Separately, General Motors said Tuesday that it was working with the nonprofit Electric Power Research Institute, which represents more than 30 large electric utilities in North America, to encourage development of electric vehicles. G.M. is developing the Chevrolet Volt, also for introduction in 2010, which can go 40 miles on battery power before switching to its gas-powered engine.

Nissan is opening its 450,000-square-foot headquarters here in Franklin two years after it pulled up stakes in Southern California for temporary quarters in downtown Nashville. And overseas automakers in the South, particularly in Tennessee, are growing rapidly. Last week, Volkswagen of Germany selected Chattanooga as the site of its first United States car plant since the late 1980s.

Nissan, Mercedes-Benz, Honda, Toyota and Hyundai also have factories in the region. Meanwhile, the Detroit automakers have been laying off thousands of workers and closing plants across the Midwest and other parts of the country.

“The arrival of the auto industry in Tennessee has transformed our lives,” Senator Lamar Alexander, a Republican, told Nissan employees during the dedication ceremony, which was followed by country music, tours of the energy-efficient building and a pie-baking contest. “You put the South on a path to become the new center of the American auto industry.”
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Old 07-24-2008, 06:19 PM   #2
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Subaru...don't miss the boat!
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Old 07-24-2008, 06:26 PM   #3
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So in 2 years, we are going to get 100 mile range EVs at an affordable price, and that still give Nissan a profit from day one?!?

I'll believe it when I see it... I still stick with my accessment from the other day that Volt-type hybrids are about 5 years ago (in terms of owning a large chunk of the US automotive market)... and pure EVs are 10 years away.

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Awesome news but I'll believe it when I can walk into a Nissan dealership and buy one. Go Nissan!
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:33 AM   #5
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Yeah, and pigs might fly out of my butt.
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“I want a pure electric car. I don’t want a range extender. I don’t want another hybrid. I WANT POWER. I WANT PERFORMANCE. I WANT LIGHT WEIGHT. I WANT OSTRICH SKIN INTERIORS. I WANT TITANIUM SAFETY CELLS” Mr. Ghosn told reporters after a ceremony to dedicate Nissan’s new North American headquarters in Franklin, an affluent suburb in the hills south of Nashville. “It’s not going to be zero emissions in certain conditions. It’s going to be zero emissions.IT'S GOING TO STOMP THE GT-R AROUND THE RING. IT'S GOING TO MAKE SUPER MODELS SPRAWL ACROSS YOUR HOOD.
fixed for mis-quote Ghosn ghos crazy

I want a lot of things too.....
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Old 07-25-2008, 10:29 AM   #7
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^ Sometimes that is the only way to get things done
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NO mention of cost, so I'll reserve judgement.

Very promising though ... Go get 'em Nissan!
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I like Ghosn. The man has vision and follow through. He's done great things for Nissan so far and will probably continue to do so. I believe they can do it.
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So in 2 years, we are going to get 100 mile range EVs at an affordable price, and that still give Nissan a profit from day one?!?

I'll believe it when I see it... I still stick with my accessment from the other day that Volt-type hybrids are about 5 years ago (in terms of owning a large chunk of the US automotive market)... and pure EVs are 10 years away.
The EV-1 was released in 1996. I'm sure at some point in the last 12 years people figured out how to make them profitable.

The main issue is they have to be cheap if they can only go 100 miles. I drive further than that on a bi-weekly basis.
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fixed for mis-quote Ghosn ghos crazy

I want a lot of things too.....
But do you have minions? Carlos has minions, factories, and secret lairs in France and Japan.

He also already has high performance quick-charge batteries, and is building a couple new factories to produce them...
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