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Old 07-24-2008, 09:19 PM   #1
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I recently put a diff set of rotas on my car. I am running 2154517 tires on these rims unlike the 2154017s on my old set. The problem is I have rubs, I have rolled the fenders and also cut out the original mounting point from the qp to the bumper cover and made new ones elsewhere(I have a gc8). I am still rubbing(when trying to corner hard) and am sure someone has encountered this problem, any helpful hints would be greatly appreciated. The setup is Kyb gr2 struts with vogtland springs.
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Old 07-25-2008, 02:22 PM   #2
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well ...

need to know the wheel size
need to know the wheel offset
need to know the brand tire

Wheel size/offset and actual tire widths, which vary by manufacturer, all can contribute to tire rubbing.
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Old 07-25-2008, 03:02 PM   #3
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well ...

need to know the wheel size
need to know the wheel offset
need to know the brand tire

Wheel size/offset and actual tire widths, which vary by manufacturer, all can contribute to tire rubbing.
17 7.5, offset 45, Kumho ecsta supra tires.
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:09 PM   #4
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The setup is Kyb gr2 struts with vogtland springs.
How much has this lowered your car?

I haven't seen the Kumho's but it is beginning to sound like you've lowered your car, and possibly the tires have squared edges, both of which are contributing to the rubbing.

Do you mean 225x45's (?) which are slightly larger, which adds to the issue.

What size brand/rims were you using w/the 2154017s?
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Old 07-26-2008, 10:20 AM   #5
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Nope, I was using general uhp 2154017 which took up a good bit less space in the wheel well. Also, I have had someone suggest rubbing from the front, but to me it still sounds like the rear. These were also a different set of Rota rims with the uhps, although they should be about the same offset. The stance has dropped about 1.3-1.6 inches all the way around. The front has a good 2 inches from the top of the tire to the fenderlip and the rear has about an inch or so. I can't find scuffing anywhere.

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Old 07-26-2008, 07:33 PM   #6
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You know you are rubbing but you can't find scuffing anywhere. Something is out of whack here.
If there is no scuffing, what is telling you that you are rubbing?

Did you check tires (inside and outside of rim), quarter panels, wheel liners?

It is simply possible that with your tire/rim choice and lowered suspension, that combination simply results in rubbing under hard cornering.

If all that is true, then sounds as if your options are:
1. don't corner so hard
2. different wheel/tire combo to reduce/eliminate the rubbing
3. stiffer springs
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Old 07-27-2008, 02:01 PM   #7
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You know you are rubbing but you can't find scuffing anywhere. Something is out of whack here.
If there is no scuffing, what is telling you that you are rubbing?

Did you check tires (inside and outside of rim), quarter panels, wheel liners?

It is simply possible that with your tire/rim choice and lowered suspension, that combination simply results in rubbing under hard cornering.

If all that is true, then sounds as if your options are:
1. don't corner so hard
2. different wheel/tire combo to reduce/eliminate the rubbing
3. stiffer springs
Yeh, thats pretty much the point I am at. Thanks for all the advice and option 3 is probably going to be my choice. Any springs known for staying stiff you can recommend. Those votgland springs are giving a lot more than I would like.
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Give the boys over at TiC (www.turninconcepts.com) a call and I'm sure they can help you out w/spring selections. Even if they don;t have what you need, they will either see if they can get you the right stuff or point you in the right ditrection.

Swift springs have been getting good reviews.

You also have to be really careful w/spring selections. Any performance manufacturer states their springs will lower your car by X amount, but that is always a rough estimate. You are pretty much at the mercy of the manufacturer hoping that what they sell you is correct for you and you won't find out until you have mounted them and they have settled in.

Although a more expensive route, another option is a quality set of coilovers, not some cheap crap.

With coilovers, you can choose the spring rates and adjust the ride height, both independant of each other.

Just another option to consider.
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How close are your tires to the outside wall of your fenders? If they have room and are rubbing on the inside, couldn't you run a small spacer. I'm running 245 40's on 18x8" rims with a 48 offset. They are tight but don't rub at all. I would consider running a 3mm spacer if possible. Just an idea...
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