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Old 07-26-2008, 04:26 PM   #1
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It's time for tires again. Based on recommendations from some pros, I have my eye on the BFG G-Force SuperSport A/S. They are right in my price range, have good treadwear ratings, and get good reviews. A buddy has the KDW2s, and says they leave a little to be desired in the ride quality department, and the guys that recommend the Super Sports say they're better than the KDW2. I've read reviews on Tire Rack and other sites, but I thought I'd see what you guys thought.

I want decent ride quality, good treadwear, and good overall grip. There's no such thing as snow around here, virtually NO rain, just hot and dry. I don't care at ALL about tire noise, my car isn't about to sneak up on anyone as it is. And if these tires see the race track (road course), it would be no more than once or twice, so that's not really that important right now. I run the 1/4 mile from time to time, but that's not an issue either.

I know there are many good tires out there, and I'm open to suggestions, but I want to stay in the price range of the BFG G-Force SS.

So throw some ideas or opinions at me, whatever they may be. I just figured I'd round out my search with some feedback from Nabisco.

Thanks guys!

Brandon

By the way, for reference I'm sporting the Falken FK452 right now, which I'm pretty happy with for the money. But they damn near rip the wheel from my hand at low speeds and uneven road surfaces. Time to upgrade.
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Old 07-26-2008, 06:20 PM   #2
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what size tire are you looking at? what's your budget?

i have kdw2's in 255/35/18 right now and they're fairly comfortable, but then again i do have rce yellows & 18" wheels. they're not loud at all. my friend has a set of bfg supersport a/s and they're loud...but as you said, you don't care whether or not they are.

if there is absolute no chance of snow, why are you looking at all-seasons? a summer tire is far better in the rain than an all-season.
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Old 07-26-2008, 06:42 PM   #3
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what size tire are you looking at? ..
I have 215/45/17 right now, but I'd like to go a little fatter on these wheels if possible (06/07 OEM WRX 7-spoke), maybe a 225 or perhaps even a smidge wider. I'll post a picture in case you're not familiar with them, even though I'm sure you are



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what's your budget?.
I hadn't listed that because I will get them legit for a little less than the going rate (connections), but I wanted to spend no more than $700 mounted, balanced, basically all the options with as much of a warranty as can be had. If there was something a little more expensive that was significantly better, I'm open to that as well. I know that you tend to get what you pay for. For the tires in question (BFG G-Force SS A/S), I'm expecting to spend slightly over $600.

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i have kdw2's in 255/35/18 right now and they're fairly comfortable, but then again i do have rce yellows & 18" wheels. they're not loud at all. my friend has a set of bfg supersport a/s and they're loud...but as you said, you don't care whether or not they are..
Correct, I'm not at all concerned about road noise. The BPM exhaust, especially with the snarl from the headers, is anything but sneaky

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if there is absolute no chance of snow, why are you looking at all-seasons? a summer tire is far better in the rain than an all-season.
I'm going purely off recommendations from people that know more than I do. I wondered the same thing, but they said that they will ride better, grip better, and last longer, and that's exactly what I want (even though it sounds too good to be true). I wouldn't mind having a tire that could handle some weather for when I go see my family in Colorado, but it's not at all a priority (that's why we have airplanes )


By the way, thanks for the help
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Old 07-26-2008, 07:23 PM   #4
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going off tirerack's reviews, i would look at the sumitomo htrz3, bridgestone re760 sport, or even the general exclaim uhp.
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I'll check those out, thank you sir. I've read the Sticky on tires, that's actually where my search began a few weeks ago, and those were there, but I wasn't sure of their price range and I had a tough time finding reviews on the HTRZ3.



And out of curiosity, what do you think of YOUR KDW2s? I didn't see you recommend them.... I have springs as well (Prodrives, fairly forgiving and matched to Whiteline 25-27mm sways). Either way it's an entirely different car, but it's still information, and all of it welcome
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well, i like them for daily driving. i have no complaints at all for just cruising around on a daily basis, especially in the rain.

i autox'd on them for the first time last weekend, and i found them to be fairly capable there as well...but they did get greasy very quick. but i guess that's to be expected of a 300 tread tire. it doesn't help that i'm on rce yellows, so they would possibly last a bit longer with softer springs when pushed to the limit.
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Old 07-27-2008, 11:34 AM   #7
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After a day of research, I think the BFG G-Force SS is getting the best reviews, and good pricing. With the treadwear rating, that makes them even better.

I'm starting to think the maybe the Falken Azenis RT615 is a good way to go, but I don't think they'll last very long. They seem to be better for performance and the price is right, but I'm worried about the treadwear.

Am I the only one who seems to have more trouble finding the right tires than ANYTHING else for my car?

Thanks nhat, anyone else have any input here? I'm open to ANY suggestions, any good tires for 98% dry, 2% wet.
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Old 07-27-2008, 01:59 PM   #8
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i love my 235/40/18 kdws. you say theres not to much rain, but these tires in the rain is like being on overly dry pavement. this is my first set other then stock, i LOVE how they look (very agressive), they last a good amount and have very good grip for regular driving. i dont think ill ever change from these tires unless i try others first before buying them.
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Old 10-04-2008, 12:24 PM   #9
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Sorry to revive a really old thread, but I went with the Falken Azenis RT615 and they're incredible. Absolutely incredible for a street tire. The treadwear is stupid at 200 , but the grip is by FAR the best I've experienced so far. They are VERY loud on rough roads, but I have no problem with that because the car itself isn't exactly quiet, but it's worth mentioning. It actually had me a little worried the first time I went over a really rough road, but it's normal.

So in summary, Azenis FTMFW!!!!!!

To add a little for anyone interested, they are actually very quiet on normal roads, and they seem to 'track' a little better than other tires I've had (basically they don't follow every hole in the road, they stay straight very well). In the 1k miles since I got them they've quite a bit of wear, but I put them through their paces regularly in the twisties. The extra grip on launch is kinda worrying me because I think my transmission is very angry at me right now, but I'm not smart enough to stay away from the track

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