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Old 07-28-2008, 10:52 AM   #1
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Default Nissan GT-R Spec V specs revealed by R&T

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/28/n...aled-by-randt/

Spec V spy shots: http://www.autoblog.com/photos/nissa...c-v-spy-shots/

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Road & Track just spilled the beans on the new Nissan GT-R Spec V, so we can now share their data with all of you. Thanks guys. While the "regular" GT-R is busy bringing down giants and collecting hardware in the process, the new GT-R Spec V promises to improve on the formula, and probably cure cancer or bring about world peace along the way. Here are the numbers: 2 seats only, 520 hp @ 6500 rpm, 440 lb.-ft. of torque all the way from 32005200 rpm, 3615 lbs., 'Ring laps quicker than 7:30, $130,000 MSRP, early 2009.

So the car will lose its back seat and enough other stuff to shed 200 pounds, will get an extra 40 advertised horses, cost almost twice as much as the current model and lap the Nordschleife faster than a Porsche 997 GT2. We had that number as low as 7:25 recently, which is just insane. We're guessing there will be enough people that will wait for this model to hit U.S. shores when it debuts in early 2009, but even more who will think they can duplicate the recipe for far fewer dollars and a regular old GT-R. Thanks for the tip, Rob!
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Old 07-28-2008, 10:55 AM   #2
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Good Lord.
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Old 07-28-2008, 11:11 AM   #3
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I love skylines but the new r35 is just too technological id like too launch the car myself thank you. -
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Old 07-28-2008, 11:18 AM   #4
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520HP, I bet that's conservative given what the regular GT-R has been putting out. Wonder if Nissan will cave in and provide a manual option?
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Old 07-28-2008, 11:25 AM   #5
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Awesome. Yeah, I'm sure that power rating is quite conservative. That'll be a very fast car.

Surprised they are calling it Spec V like the Sentra, instead of V-Spec like the old Skyline GT-Rs.

CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NISMO VERSION!
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Old 07-28-2008, 12:15 PM   #6
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I'm just waiting for the ZR1 fanboys to talk about how the ZR1 is "only" $100k while the V-Spec is $130k.
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Old 07-28-2008, 12:18 PM   #7
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^and then they'll talk about how the GT-R spec VRSSHTNGSTNT got smoked by a corvette.... AGIAN!

that GTR is garbage... its an overweight 350z w/ a twin turbo kit and awd
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Old 07-28-2008, 12:24 PM   #8
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^^^ The stoopid has now entered the thread.
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Old 07-28-2008, 12:42 PM   #9
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I'm just waiting for the ZR1 fanboys to talk about how the ZR1 is "only" $100k while the V-Spec is $130k.
Just like when all the GTR fanboys talk about how the GTR is "only" $70k while the ZR1 is $100k. All these threads about the GTR or Corvette turn into a retarded pissing match between people that have little to no idea what they are talking about.
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Old 07-28-2008, 12:44 PM   #10
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I'm just waiting for the ZR1 fanboys to talk about how the ZR1 is "only" $100k while the V-Spec is $130k.
It will be interesting if the Spec-V will be as hard core as the ACR Viper or closer to the ZR-1. I would put all three of these as direct competitiors. And the It will also need to be seen if the Jump in price is justified.
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Old 07-28-2008, 12:49 PM   #11
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I think if I saw it in person I would like it but so far these things seem far less attractive than the previous generation
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Old 07-28-2008, 01:14 PM   #12
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520HP, I bet that's conservative given what the regular GT-R has been putting out. Wonder if Nissan will cave in and provide a manual option?
No. Because that would require a whole new ATTESSA system, whole new traction control system, and whole host of other things. Not to mention it's slower. The reason the GTR works so damn well at bending the laws of physics is that every part of it works in concert perfectly. Change one part of it, and you have to change everything else to make it all work again.

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^and then they'll talk about how the GT-R spec VRSSHTNGSTNT got smoked by a corvette.... AGIAN!

that GTR is garbage... its an overweight 350z w/ a twin turbo kit and awd
The GTR is not built on the same platform as the 350z. A stock GTR will run circles around many 'race' prepped 350z's.

wait, why am I even bothering...

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It will be interesting if the Spec-V will be as hard core as the ACR Viper or closer to the ZR-1. I would put all three of these as direct competitiors. And the It will also need to be seen if the Jump in price is justified.
I think it would be closest to a porsche GT2. Hence the reason they used that as a benchmark for the NB time.

As for the spec V verses V spec, that's just to keep a consistant marketing language I would assume. Or it could just be a typo.
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Old 07-28-2008, 01:38 PM   #13
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520HP, I bet that's conservative given what the regular GT-R has been putting out. Wonder if Nissan will cave in and provide a manual option?
Um, cave into who? And I don't think on their fastest car, they'd offer an option to make it slower.
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As for the spec V verses V spec, that's just to keep a consistant marketing language I would assume. Or it could just be a typo.
It is called the Spec V because a US based auto parts company has the rights to the v spec name in the US and wanted a fortune for it. Nissan decided to use the Spec V instead so it can be the same name globally.
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Old 07-28-2008, 01:57 PM   #15
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Just like when all the GTR fanboys talk about how the GTR is "only" $70k while the ZR1 is $100k. All these threads about the GTR or Corvette turn into a retarded pissing match between people that have little to no idea what they are talking about.
Well, those GT-R fanboys are retarded then, seeing how it's the $70k Z06 that the $70k GT-R does battle with.
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Old 07-28-2008, 02:28 PM   #16
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Well, those GT-R fanboys are retarded then, seeing how it's the $70k Z06 that the $70k GT-R does battle with.
All fanboys are retarded regardless of topic.

If the car does indeed turn out to be $30k more than the ZR1 it takes all the fun out of watching people like monaroCountry get super defensive. Now he will have a legitimate argument that the Corvette is significantly cheaper.
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Old 07-28-2008, 02:34 PM   #17
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^ True. But as long as the Spec V ends up being quicker (which it'd better be), then that's what's more important. However, assuming that this price tag is accurate, for the time being I'll have to say that the ZR1 has more bang for the buck... but I'd still rather have a GT-R Spec V if I was wealthy enough to be able to afford either one.
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Old 07-28-2008, 02:40 PM   #18
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Honda Fit > GT-R+Z06

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I'm actually disapointed. I was expecting 550-600hp at least. Sure, 200lbs. helps but for that price and to compete with the ZR-1 it needs a bit more.
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$60k for only 200lbs less and 40hp more? is anybody else thinking theres more to this story? i mean, taking 200lbs out of a 3800lb car cant be that expensive, nor can turning up the boost a couple psi. im thinkin this thing has some forged magnesium wheels, big ass brakes, 12 piston calipers, and a wicked suspension setup. why? cause if it doesnt, then its overpriced, imo.
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I'm actually disapointed. I was expecting 550-600hp at least. Sure, 200lbs. helps but for that price and to compete with the ZR-1 it needs a bit more.
Perhaps it will be a tad underrated like the GT-R allegedly is.

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$60k for only 200lbs less and 40hp more? is anybody else thinking theres more to this story? i mean, taking 200lbs out of a 3800lb car cant be that expensive, nor can turning up the boost a couple psi. im thinkin this thing has some forged magnesium wheels, big ass brakes, 12 piston calipers, and a wicked suspension setup. why? cause if it doesnt, then its overpriced, imo.
I agree that it seems like it's a lot of extra money for not much extra. But keep in mind that they're utilizing a lot of carbon fiber (which isn't cheap), plus it looks like from the spy shots it has ceramic rotors (also not cheap). But yeah, it's not looking like the bang-for-the-buck performance bargain that the GT-R is.
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yeah for 130k...wouldnt you rather say you own a 911 twin turbo? a zr1 and a beater car? maybe even 3 z06's if you bargain with the dealer haha atleast the resale would be better

a 130k nissan...hmmm...specs look great, i bet its a powerful beast!
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I can't believe people are talking like the ZR-1 is any different. It's 50 grand for a supercharger kit and some body panels.

As for Nissan's underating, they're simply stating the wheel HP as the rated HP. This has been shown from a few seperate independant sources. I would imagine that Nissan wouldn't change they way they underate the car, meaning that if it gains 40-50HP in Nissan's ratings, it really has only gained 40-50 HP at the wheels.

And to whoever thinks that shaving 200LBS of of a factory street car is easy, you're sadly mistaken. Sadly, sadly mistaken. It's not like they can just leave exposed body panels lying about. Meaning that when they take out the back seats, they have to replace them with something. That something is probably a very tastefull carbon fiber overlay. Then they probably replaced a few other bits (read most of the body panels) with carbon fiber. This thing still has, as far as we know, HVAC, power steering, ABS, some amount of sound deadining (people paying $120k for a car don't want to hear every single noise around their car) and all the other modern niceities, which are the primary way people sheed weight off their cars on this board. Carbon fiber ain't cheap.

And I'm sure there are indeed carbon ceramic brakes, which also aren't cheap.
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Oh, and by the way, a 7:25 is faster than a Zonda (27.82 ) and the ZR-1 (26.4) around the ring. By a second+. A Zonda costs $600k. I think I'd call that 'bang for the buck', wouldn't you?
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Oh, and by the way, a 7:25 is faster than a Zonda (27.82 ) and the ZR-1 (26.4) around the ring. By a second+. A Zonda costs $600k. I think I'd call that 'bang for the buck', wouldn't you?
It still is, seeing how I stated it would be great performance for $130k when you look at other supercars and what performance they bring for their price tags, but is the advantage it has over a standard GT-R worth $60k on top of it? That question is a little harder to argue.

Kind of like how, for example, an Evo IX MR might be worth the $36k price of admission, but its marginal performance it has over a standard Evo IX might not be worth the $4k premium that goes with it.
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