B-Line top-mount oil cooler installed

DroppedClutch · 08-04-2008, 12:52 PM

Over the weekend I installed B-Line Motorsport's top-mount oil cooler kit. It came with a Setrab core, mounting brackets, Earl's fittings, heat shielded lines, aluminum sandwich adapter, necessary hardware, clips to hold the hoses, and some zip ties for good measure. The owner of B-Line provided excellent pre-sales service and was refreshingly proactive, friendly, and candid. Here's some pics...

I'm definitely happy with the kit, but there are a few things I'll be changing. Mind you, I do not feel these are short-coming to the original kit esp. for it's price. They're just things I want to do for the sake of fun and to put my personal mark on it. I'm redesigning the static mounts to allow control of the height, pitch, and position forward and aft. I want to create a scoop that bolts to the core and fits under the hood's scoop. I might also increase the diameter of the lines, and change their length to allow different routing options.

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djerickd · 08-04-2008, 02:35 PM

where can you get this?

DroppedClutch · 08-04-2008, 02:47 PM

I got mine directly from B-Line. http://www.blinemotorsports.com

mrubino83 · 08-04-2008, 08:44 PM

very nice kit. I had one of the first bline front mounted oil coolers and was very happy with it. Congrats on the purchase man, looks great.

BTW,

If you have some time, you should take a second to post this in the members car gallery so more people can see it.

torquemada · 08-09-2008, 06:45 PM

could someone please enlighten me:
I´ve read that it´s not good to place the cooler in the highest position of the entire oil system...true or false?

jwild · 08-09-2008, 10:09 PM

I think because it's a loop, once it is primed, and the oil is pumped up there it almost acts like a siphon on return. It will add more stress to the oil pump, but how much, I'm not sure.

+1 for nice kit!

Zornorph · 08-18-2008, 01:18 AM

It's ok - if the pipes entered from the bottom there would be a chance for trapped air to greatly reduce the effectiveness, but they did it right.

Robspec · 08-18-2008, 05:26 PM

i just got off the phone with John at bline ill be getting the same kit in next couple of days,he seened verry helpfull ,ive been looking for an oil cooler that works with aps front mount for a wile and this works will keep everyone updated

Robspec · 08-23-2008, 06:27 AM

just got my kit in today : ) will post up pics soon

jigga · 08-23-2008, 10:03 AM

Seems like a popular piece around here! I was looking at getting one of these a few weeks back, but was concerned about pumping losses associated with having the oil cooler at that position. I also did not know whether the oil cooler would end up heating the oil up more with it sitting on top of the engine. Add to this that nobody around here seemed to be running one, and I started looking at other options.

The problem we face with these cars is that when you reach a certain stage of modification, there is just very little real estate available to mount anything

What size core is included with the B-line setup?

Zornorph · 08-23-2008, 11:55 AM

looks like a 25 row setrab.

tino · 10-19-2008, 08:57 AM

Does this kit come with a thermostat???

deebee8 · 10-24-2008, 03:21 PM

holy crap that is hella nice~!!!

jason.g · 11-19-2008, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tino

Does this kit come with a thermostat???

Good question!

Bump for an update on the install

Zornorph · 11-20-2008, 07:53 AM

does any oil cooler kit come with a thermostat? I've never seen one with one. Mine doesn't have one. I believe most coolers are full flow, so you can't simply block flow like a coolant thermostat, you'd have to bypass it with no real reduction in flow.

bhhamblin · 11-20-2008, 10:14 AM

allot of the oil cooler kids i have seen come with a thermostat. i am running a setrab core with mocal lines and a thermostat adapter plate.

Kiwi Fella · 01-05-2009, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhhamblin

allot of the oil cooler kids i have seen come with a thermostat. i am running a setrab core with mocal lines and a thermostat adapter plate.

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mpsti05 · 01-05-2009, 12:59 AM

mmmmm me like

jaxscuby · 01-05-2009, 08:10 PM

thermostat would be nice..
that way the oil cooler does not
get "exploded" due to low temp / high pressures..

RR-racing · 01-14-2009, 12:09 PM

3 observations:

(1) that oil cooler is huge. Also this would require about 12 feet or so of oil lines. I hope that the filter valve prevents all this oil from draining to the oil pan between startups?

(2) does this kit come with ducting from the scoop to the oil cooler? If not, then airflow through the core is going to be pretty ****ty.

(3) It is mainly useful for higher speed venues, not so much for very tight tracks/autocross/gymkanna where speeds are lower because it does not have a fan.

In my experience, I see highest oil temperatures on uphill twisty canyon roads where speeds are relatively low and load on the engine is very high. The only way I have been able to keep oil temperatures down is by kicking in my radiator fans at a lower temperature (my oil cooler is front mounted, pass side... so I just kick in the pass side fan much earlier, the added flow though the oil cooler dramatically cuts the oil temp, not much an effect on coolant temp).

Rafi

orvtech · 04-29-2009, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RR-racing

3 observations:

(1) that oil cooler is huge. Also this would require about 12 feet or so of oil lines. I hope that the filter valve prevents all this oil from draining to the oil pan between startups?

(2) does this kit come with ducting from the scoop to the oil cooler? If not, then airflow through the core is going to be pretty ****ty.

(3) It is mainly useful for higher speed venues, not so much for very tight tracks/autocross/gymkanna where speeds are lower because it does not have a fan.

In my experience, I see highest oil temperatures on uphill twisty canyon roads where speeds are relatively low and load on the engine is very high. The only way I have been able to keep oil temperatures down is by kicking in my radiator fans at a lower temperature (my oil cooler is front mounted, pass side... so I just kick in the pass side fan much earlier, the added flow though the oil cooler dramatically cuts the oil temp, not much an effect on coolant temp).

Rafi

what oilcooler are you using ?

bibs · 05-28-2009, 12:27 PM

any heatsoak issues with this kind of oil cooler ?

orvtech · 05-28-2009, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bibs

any heatsoak issues with this kind of oil cooler ?

i think the oilcooler will be warmer than what ever it has around

WRX 2002 · 05-30-2009, 08:42 AM

They are a little expensive with no Thermostat built in.

08-04-2008, 12:52 PM	#1
DroppedClutch Scooby Specialist Member#: 52313 Join Date: Jan 2004 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Chandler, AZ Vehicle: 2005 STiOmgWtfBbq20G 2007 MS3 Black	B-Line top-mount oil cooler installed Over the weekend I installed B-Line Motorsport's top-mount oil cooler kit. It came with a Setrab core, mounting brackets, Earl's fittings, heat shielded lines, aluminum sandwich adapter, necessary hardware, clips to hold the hoses, and some zip ties for good measure. The owner of B-Line provided excellent pre-sales service and was refreshingly proactive, friendly, and candid. Here's some pics... I'm definitely happy with the kit, but there are a few things I'll be changing. Mind you, I do not feel these are short-coming to the original kit esp. for it's price. They're just things I want to do for the sake of fun and to put my personal mark on it. I'm redesigning the static mounts to allow control of the height, pitch, and position forward and aft. I want to create a scoop that bolts to the core and fits under the hood's scoop. I might also increase the diameter of the lines, and change their length to allow different routing options. * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

01-14-2009, 12:09 PM	#20
RR-racing Scooby Newbie Member#: 41632 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Israel Vehicle: 2004 Spec C WRC blue	3 observations: (1) that oil cooler is huge. Also this would require about 12 feet or so of oil lines. I hope that the filter valve prevents all this oil from draining to the oil pan between startups? (2) does this kit come with ducting from the scoop to the oil cooler? If not, then airflow through the core is going to be pretty ***ty. (3) It is mainly useful for higher speed venues, not so much for very tight tracks/autocross/gymkanna where speeds are lower because it does not have a fan. In my experience, I see highest oil temperatures on uphill twisty canyon roads where speeds are relatively low and load on the engine is very high. The only way I have been able to keep oil temperatures down is by kicking in my radiator fans at a lower temperature (my oil cooler is front mounted, pass side... so I just kick in the pass side fan much earlier, the added flow though the oil cooler dramatically cuts the oil temp, not much an effect on coolant temp). Rafi Last edited by RR-racing; 01-14-2009 at 12:19 PM.*

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bhhamblin n00b Moderator Moderator Member#: 99397 Join Date: Oct 2005 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Clinton, UT Vehicle: '13 BRZ, '13 STi SRs13 '83 Skyline '93 GTR	allot of the oil cooler kids i have seen come with a thermostat. i am running a setrab core with mocal lines and a thermostat adapter plate.

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