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Old 08-04-2008, 12:52 PM   #1
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Over the weekend I installed B-Line Motorsport's top-mount oil cooler kit. It came with a Setrab core, mounting brackets, Earl's fittings, heat shielded lines, aluminum sandwich adapter, necessary hardware, clips to hold the hoses, and some zip ties for good measure. The owner of B-Line provided excellent pre-sales service and was refreshingly proactive, friendly, and candid. Here's some pics...





I'm definitely happy with the kit, but there are a few things I'll be changing. Mind you, I do not feel these are short-coming to the original kit esp. for it's price. They're just things I want to do for the sake of fun and to put my personal mark on it. I'm redesigning the static mounts to allow control of the height, pitch, and position forward and aft. I want to create a scoop that bolts to the core and fits under the hood's scoop. I might also increase the diameter of the lines, and change their length to allow different routing options.
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Old 08-04-2008, 02:35 PM   #2
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where can you get this?
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Old 08-04-2008, 02:47 PM   #3
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I got mine directly from B-Line. http://www.blinemotorsports.com
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Old 08-04-2008, 08:44 PM   #4
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very nice kit. I had one of the first bline front mounted oil coolers and was very happy with it. Congrats on the purchase man, looks great.

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If you have some time, you should take a second to post this in the members car gallery so more people can see it.
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Old 08-09-2008, 06:45 PM   #5
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could someone please enlighten me:
Iīve read that itīs not good to place the cooler in the highest position of the entire oil system...true or false?
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Old 08-09-2008, 10:09 PM   #6
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I think because it's a loop, once it is primed, and the oil is pumped up there it almost acts like a siphon on return. It will add more stress to the oil pump, but how much, I'm not sure.

+1 for nice kit!
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:18 AM   #7
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It's ok - if the pipes entered from the bottom there would be a chance for trapped air to greatly reduce the effectiveness, but they did it right.
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:26 PM   #8
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i just got off the phone with John at bline ill be getting the same kit in next couple of days,he seened verry helpfull ,ive been looking for an oil cooler that works with aps front mount for a wile and this works will keep everyone updated
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Old 08-23-2008, 06:27 AM   #9
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just got my kit in today : ) will post up pics soon
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Old 08-23-2008, 10:03 AM   #10
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Seems like a popular piece around here! I was looking at getting one of these a few weeks back, but was concerned about pumping losses associated with having the oil cooler at that position. I also did not know whether the oil cooler would end up heating the oil up more with it sitting on top of the engine. Add to this that nobody around here seemed to be running one, and I started looking at other options.

The problem we face with these cars is that when you reach a certain stage of modification, there is just very little real estate available to mount anything

What size core is included with the B-line setup?
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Old 08-23-2008, 11:55 AM   #11
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looks like a 25 row setrab.
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Old 10-19-2008, 08:57 AM   #12
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Does this kit come with a thermostat???
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Old 10-24-2008, 03:21 PM   #13
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holy crap that is hella nice~!!!
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Old 11-19-2008, 06:11 PM   #14
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Does this kit come with a thermostat???
Good question!

Bump for an update on the install
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Old 11-20-2008, 07:53 AM   #15
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does any oil cooler kit come with a thermostat? I've never seen one with one. Mine doesn't have one. I believe most coolers are full flow, so you can't simply block flow like a coolant thermostat, you'd have to bypass it with no real reduction in flow.
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Old 11-20-2008, 10:14 AM   #16
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allot of the oil cooler kids i have seen come with a thermostat. i am running a setrab core with mocal lines and a thermostat adapter plate.
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Old 01-05-2009, 12:43 AM   #17
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allot of the oil cooler kids i have seen come with a thermostat. i am running a setrab core with mocal lines and a thermostat adapter plate.
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Old 01-05-2009, 12:59 AM   #18
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thermostat would be nice..
that way the oil cooler does not
get "exploded" due to low temp / high pressures..
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Old 01-14-2009, 12:09 PM   #20
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3 observations:

(1) that oil cooler is huge. Also this would require about 12 feet or so of oil lines. I hope that the filter valve prevents all this oil from draining to the oil pan between startups?

(2) does this kit come with ducting from the scoop to the oil cooler? If not, then airflow through the core is going to be pretty ****ty.

(3) It is mainly useful for higher speed venues, not so much for very tight tracks/autocross/gymkanna where speeds are lower because it does not have a fan.


In my experience, I see highest oil temperatures on uphill twisty canyon roads where speeds are relatively low and load on the engine is very high. The only way I have been able to keep oil temperatures down is by kicking in my radiator fans at a lower temperature (my oil cooler is front mounted, pass side... so I just kick in the pass side fan much earlier, the added flow though the oil cooler dramatically cuts the oil temp, not much an effect on coolant temp).

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Old 04-29-2009, 08:31 PM   #21
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3 observations:

(1) that oil cooler is huge. Also this would require about 12 feet or so of oil lines. I hope that the filter valve prevents all this oil from draining to the oil pan between startups?

(2) does this kit come with ducting from the scoop to the oil cooler? If not, then airflow through the core is going to be pretty ****ty.

(3) It is mainly useful for higher speed venues, not so much for very tight tracks/autocross/gymkanna where speeds are lower because it does not have a fan.


In my experience, I see highest oil temperatures on uphill twisty canyon roads where speeds are relatively low and load on the engine is very high. The only way I have been able to keep oil temperatures down is by kicking in my radiator fans at a lower temperature (my oil cooler is front mounted, pass side... so I just kick in the pass side fan much earlier, the added flow though the oil cooler dramatically cuts the oil temp, not much an effect on coolant temp).

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what oilcooler are you using ?
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Old 05-28-2009, 12:27 PM   #22
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any heatsoak issues with this kind of oil cooler ?
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any heatsoak issues with this kind of oil cooler ?
i think the oilcooler will be warmer than what ever it has around
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Old 05-30-2009, 08:42 AM   #24
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They are a little expensive with no Thermostat built in.
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