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Old 05-25-2010, 05:40 AM   #26
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Since my corded impact gun won't fit in there, I wonder if hammering with mallet will work to free up / tighten the nut?
A heavy mallet/hammer wont work to free up the nut, unless you're wielding one that's like 40 lbs, lol. It will require at least 160 ft lbs of torque to break free. You have to get your entire body weight behind it. The more clearance you can get underneath your car, the easier this process will be. I highly discourage the use of any impact tools for torquing as they do not accurately torque to spec (there is a slight deviation due to its operational nature). Also, hammering something to tighten it up is also discouraged for obvious reasons.

That's not to say you can't do it. But at the risk of being held liable for instruction, I must discourage its use.

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Old 08-13-2010, 04:18 PM   #27
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Great write up, nails every piece of the install to a tee as I just installed mine and it was like reading a portal into 5 min in the future.

However, I did get some added noise out of mine after the install. I get a creaking noise over slow bumps from beneath the petals. I've re-lubed and re-tightened everything back but it won't go away.

On the right side I actually just disconnected the whole control arm and sway bar so I could get the oem busing off easier. When I put it back on I greased up the front bushing a bit as the ALK puts some added stress on the front bushing/bolt. If you don't have the front part of the control arm bolted up first you'll see that the hole doesn't line up anymore and the busing will have to flex to sit at an angle to allow the bolt to go through.

So perhaps as a precaution, unbolt the front bushing first and grease up the bolt and bush, then put it back before you remove the old rear bushing and replace it with the ALK unit. Do this for both sides and I bet a lot of the weird noises will go away. Ultimately, whiteline would be better off including replacement front bushings that have the hole at an angle so there's no binding in the control arm fulcrums after changing the geometry.
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Old 09-29-2010, 12:00 AM   #28
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Does anyone know what size the large nut is? Half my tools are in storage and I want to make sure I have the right socket before I jack it up and tear into it.

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Old 09-29-2010, 06:47 AM   #29
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Does anyone know what size the large nut is?
On my 2006 the Subaru nut was removed with a 22mm wrench. The Whiteline ALK nut was installed with a 24mm wrench. IMO, there really is not a ton of room for a socket to fit in there. Maybe there could be different size Subaru parts year to year....I'm not certain. Hope that helps out some.
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Old 09-29-2010, 10:00 AM   #30
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For those wondering how to torque the nut, the best option is to use a bear claw.
What's a bear claw?
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Old 09-29-2010, 10:24 AM   #31
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Old 09-29-2010, 10:27 AM   #32
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no pics? wtf? great write up!
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Old 09-29-2010, 02:34 PM   #33
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Yeah, that's what I thought when i read it, too.

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Old 09-29-2010, 09:05 PM   #34
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On my 2006 the Subaru nut was removed with a 22mm wrench. The Whiteline ALK nut was installed with a 24mm wrench. IMO, there really is not a ton of room for a socket to fit in there. Maybe there could be different size Subaru parts year to year....I'm not certain. Hope that helps out some.
Yep that helps me out a lot! Thanks!
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Old 09-29-2010, 09:37 PM   #35
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god...I feel old remembering when I installed my first ALK....

and regular SAE sized wrenches are VERY close at those sizes and can be used if you have large

SAE tools.... and I NEVER use the 'wrong size' tools on anything....but on these, you wouldnt know the difference
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Old 10-30-2010, 01:10 AM   #36
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ok, so what is a bear claw? google images doesn't come up with anything. also, any other ideas on torquing that nut?
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Old 10-30-2010, 01:28 AM   #37
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ok, so what is a bear claw? google images doesn't come up with anything. also, any other ideas on torquing that nut?
justfergetaboutit......no such thing....just people now knowing what they are talking about


I have played with these on many occasions and the ONLY thing you really need is a large wrench of the proper size and something to add length to it like another large wrench or a piece of pipe
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Old 10-30-2010, 01:32 AM   #38
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ok, so it sounds like "bench-press" torque and not accurate torque like with a torque wrench. I'm very OCD on torque specs so I want to get it right. I guess I will have to settle for full-on muscle torquing.
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Old 10-30-2010, 01:36 AM   #39
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ok, so it sounds like "bench-press" torque and not accurate torque like with a torque wrench. I'm very OCD on torque specs so I want to get it right. I guess I will have to settle for full-on muscle torquing.
d000000000000d....I have gotten under my car with the front on ramps and used BOTH feet on the wrench and my back against the other ramp to tighten that ****ing nut.

just get it tight and check it again after a week or 2

it it turns a bit after a week or 2....that's ok......just keep tightening it

you almost certainly wont be able to over tighten it
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Old 10-30-2010, 01:41 AM   #40
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d0000000000000000d......thanks, seriously
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Old 10-30-2010, 05:39 AM   #41
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d000000000000d....I have gotten under my car with the front on ramps and used BOTH feet on the wrench and my back against the other ramp to tighten that ****ing nut.

just get it tight and check it again after a week or 2

it it turns a bit after a week or 2....that's ok......just keep tightening it

you almost certainly wont be able to over tighten it
feet on wrench, on back is the way to do it.

which reminds me.....I should re-tighten that nut next time.
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:32 AM   #42
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For some reason, I had a swear fest inserting the metal sleeve into the ALK bushing, even with lube. And don't be a dumbas$ like me and put the sleeve in backwards the first time around, because it just won't come back out. Dang, thank god I didn't put it all the way in backwards.

I myself got the stiffer version so others may not be as hard to "insert".
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Old 05-16-2011, 12:31 PM   #43
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Default Comfort ALK kit installed 2006 WRX

Install of Whiteline Comfort Alk on my 2006 WRX went smooth. I used this write up to prepare me in addition to the very informative instructions from Whiteline so I figured I would post here also so there is more info on the boards. We did not do the install quite the same way due to having lift and every tool imaginable and I feel the torque ratings on the chassis bolts through x-member were too high. The x-member bar on both sides needed to be dropped washers and block added for the 2006. I snapped a OEM x-member bolt during the install due to such a high torque recommended on instructions when putting bolts back in and that was the only hiccup with entire install.

Everything else went very smooth. Front and rear adjustable sways were also installed including Whiteline endlinks f/r. Everything from the sways to the end-links from Whiteline are extremely well made. The kit fit exactly as it should, zero fitment issues!

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Thanks for the thread info to original thread owner!

highly recommend this modification. Car handles much better. From cornering, exit speeds on corners is much faster, and braking and take offs have all been improved, driving on highways is totally different with lane transitions being very precise and flat. Everything in general is very flat. Sways, endlinks, and ALK have transformed my car. I did the rear sway first, drove for a day or so to get my impressions. Then I added the front adj sway and comfort ALK and this made a huge difference from just the rear sway. Its like someone stole my WRX and replaced it with a much better handling version!

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Old 09-04-2011, 11:25 PM   #44
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I've got my control arms off so I can press out the old front bushings and press in new whiteline bushings and when I reinstall I will also install the whiteline comfort alk kit. Mine came with the metal sleeves out of the bushing. Any tricks to get it in, or just lube it up and squash it in there?
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Old 04-12-2012, 12:53 AM   #45
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What is bear claw tool? Can someone post a link or picture? lol
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:24 AM   #46
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the only thing i can think of is a crow foot wrench. never heard of a bear claw
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Old 04-12-2012, 12:59 PM   #47
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I already have a crow foot wrench, but I don't think it can torque nut to the required spec.

Someone post a picture.
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Old 04-12-2012, 01:23 PM   #48
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I did not torque it to spec but I used the open ended end of my 22mm wrench and pushed against it using my feet and my back against the car ramps or whatever to provide leverage. At first, I thought I was f'ed because the other end was a 12 pt and I know it will strip the nut. Decided to try the open end and it worked just fine. You just kind of need someone to hold the wrench in place as you get in position with your feet.

In doing that, a torque wrench of the right size should work with a 22mm crow foot.

I do have an idea for someone with the Whiteline ALK to try. See, I only installed the MSI DSS kit with TiC FCAR bushings so it's stock size. Knowing that an O2 sensor removal tool is 22mm, I figure that would be a great tool to use and tighten to spec. However, if it is the stock housing, then there just isn't enough room to place the O2 sensor socket over it. Now the WL ALK is a different housing and should drop the location of the nut enough to have space for the socket. If someone is willing to help test out this idea, that would be great to add into this DIY.

I know Autozone offers tool rentals and they have both the O2 sensor wrench and the socket set. I tried both and neither worked sure to my stock size housing.
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Question my ALK kit says torque the nut to like 60 ibs... I think instructions are in garage.
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What is a bear claw tool? Someone please post a picture!!!!!
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