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Old 04-17-2012, 12:12 AM   #26
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Thanks so much for responding RexyGirl. It is a used one, sold as is, however there was a disclaimer which said it had be tested and found to be working. I emailed the seller after finding it didn't work and got no response.

How can I tell if it is actually doing anything? I tried the digital camera trick that works with TV remotes and such, (when you aim it into the camera and press a button on the remote the IR beam can be clearly seen) but it did not help me. It obviously employs a different means of communicating than IR.

Anyway, I hate to sink more money into it but if you say it will work, I will. Do you sell used fobs? If so could you PM me a price for one?

Thanks again for the help.
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:52 AM   #27
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I'm a cup is exactly as full it should be given the circumstances type and even if it's no fun, facts are facts.

I read the part where you confirmed the system was accepting the fob and it pushed your other fob out of the programming.

That means the remote is working, so taking pictures of it was pointless, and the seller isn't going to be any help. Since the price was so low, shipping it back for a refund would be pointless. In your shoes I'd give it to someone with the same remote who's in your local chapter and they will likely confirm it's fine.

I'd put a search 'watch' on ebay and have it email you every time someone lists a fob for your year/make and this time get the exact same fob, not one with extra buttons on it?
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Old 04-17-2012, 09:35 PM   #28
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No, I had to program it in with the lock button. There is no input from the fob at any point during the programming so imagine the fob I am programming in has been dunked in water and is useless, the system will still take the code.

I am not too concerned with the $12.50, I just wanted to see if there was any point in getting another one with the trunk button. I did, yesterday, from a seller who offers a 30 day money back guarantee. And it is a new OEM fob. Cost $24 with free shipping. I'll report back when I have it to test.
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Old 04-17-2012, 09:40 PM   #29
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If the system saw NO incoming comms from the remote, then it wouldn't reserve a seat in your alarm memory for the remote fob ID and you would not have pushed your other fobs out of the 4 available memory locations.

EDIT: Let me be clear that the remote programming procedure I'm used to is not completed until you press a button on a working remote. If you've managed to push your remote out of memory without pushing any fob buttons then they have changed the process and I now have some great pranks I can play on 06+ owners without needing a newer key fob.
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:18 PM   #30
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That's not the method for my Impreza. It is initiated in the same way, but after the key has been turned 10x in 15 seconds you use the lock button to enter an 8 digit number on the inside of your fob.
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:29 PM   #31
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Ahhh I take it all back.. I knew there was a way to force an ID in but I thought you needed dealer/programmer tools for all models. Now I know you can, albeit very slowly, use the lock button to enter the fob ID manually. Crazy since it seems to just be making problems and who other than a dealer would want to pre-program a car for a fob that isn't physically available?
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:57 PM   #32
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My new fob arrived and I'm having issues programming it.

Just to be clear, after the first time entering in the 8 digit code, do I press unlock once more? And after the second time entering it, should I open and close the door, press unlock on the fob, or take the key out of the ignition?

I'm totally opposed to paying $170ish to get it programmed by a dealer?
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:32 PM   #33
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Ebay remotes have been known to be no good. I have tried myself to program ones customers have brought in and they don't work....only to program a Subaru one and have no problem.

If it is a 'new' OEM replacement, send it back. You have a better chance of a 'used' one working than an OEM 'replacement'
Ever since the 08 Impreza and 09 Forester hit and now that those used remotes are showing up there is a problem...the remotes look exactly like the previous years, but they are not compatible with the earlier ones that work on all the older Imprezas, Legacies and Foresters. I have tested all the combos in my quest to use a Legacy key with my WRX. The frequency and form factor didn't change so Subaru didn't have to apply for a new FCCID. Therefore outwardly they are identical as Soob doesn't put the part number on the remote anywhere (you can tell by the circuit board if you open it up). All the remote hockers on EBay have to go by is the FCCID and a 433MHz "remote tester" that says nothing other than the remote broadcasts on that frequency, so for all you know, you could be buying an 09 Impreza remote for your 06 Impreza or vice versa. Try telling that to some EBay power seller though...so in most cases you're out the dough.

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How can I tell if it is actually doing anything? I tried the digital camera trick that works with TV remotes and such, (when you aim it into the camera and press a button on the remote the IR beam can be clearly seen) but it did not help me. It obviously employs a different means of communicating than IR.
Yeah its radio. If you open it up does it have 2 rows of numbers on the circuit board sticker or just one?

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Just to be clear, after the first time entering in the 8 digit code, do I press unlock once more? And after the second time entering it, should I open and close the door, press unlock on the fob, or take the key out of the ignition?
After the first time you enter the code, you should hear a constant beep from the alarm beeper, you go directly into entering the code again, no extra lock button presses. Once you are done the second time, don't do anything the door locks will activate on their own to let you know you got it. If the door locks don't activate, then you weren't successful(the two code entries didn't match), and you have to start over again...
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Old 04-20-2012, 01:30 AM   #34
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Ever since the 08 Impreza and 09 Forester hit and now that those used remotes are showing up there is a problem...the remotes look exactly like the previous years, but they are not compatible with the earlier ones that work on all the older Imprezas, Legacies and Foresters. I have tested all the combos in my quest to use a Legacy key with my WRX. The frequency and form factor didn't change so Subaru didn't have to apply for a new FCCID.
Wow, is all I can say. This seems like a pretty big oversight. I wonder if Subaru employees have to be trained in telling the difference or if they're just left to figure it out for themselves.

I have a picture here of the two fobs. I was hoping you could tell if they are compatible. The (2nd) replacement I got off eBay is on the left and the working remote is on the right.



Anyway, if they are not, I'll be taking advantage of the seller's 30 day money back guarantee. Thanks for the help.

EDIT: Here is a picture of all three remotes. The one I am currently using, which works, is in the middle. Are either of the two outside fobs compatible with this?


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Old 04-20-2012, 05:04 PM   #35
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Wow, is all I can say. This seems like a pretty big oversight. I wonder if Subaru employees have to be trained in telling the difference or if they're just left to figure it out for themselves.
This isn't really a Subaru problem, from their service perspective, you order a new fob through the parts system using your VIN, and you get the right part. They are not really concerned that you can tell the difference later, they don't care about the EBay market they want you to buy a new remote ;-)

I'll have to open up my spare remotes, from what I have seen the newer ones with 2 rows of numbers are the 08+ Impreza ones, but that doesn't seem the case here. I might not have enough data to be sure yet unless we find another telltale. I'll open up my spares later and compare.
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Old 04-25-2012, 05:31 PM   #36
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This isn't really a Subaru problem, from their service perspective, you order a new fob through the parts system using your VIN, and you get the right part. They are not really concerned that you can tell the difference later, they don't care about the EBay market they want you to buy a new remote ;-)

I'll have to open up my spare remotes, from what I have seen the newer ones with 2 rows of numbers are the 08+ Impreza ones, but that doesn't seem the case here. I might not have enough data to be sure yet unless we find another telltale. I'll open up my spares later and compare.
That would be greatly appreciated, thanks a bunch!
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:53 PM   #37
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Anyone know if these will work for 2011 STI?
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Anyone know if these will work for 2011 STI?
Those? .. No those only work on the 2013s.
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Old 05-13-2012, 10:52 AM   #39
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I had the same issue one dealership told me 100 another said 70 I went to a 3rd one he said let me see your lock hit a few buttons inside the car and it was programmed for free.... 06 sti
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Old 05-16-2012, 08:33 PM   #40
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So I just bought an keyless entry. It is the tear drop one. And I am using it on my 05 sti. So I tried the on-off 10 times thing, but i NEVER heard any beep. Tried SEVERAL times lol. Should I try the battery dicsonnect?
And also do i have to lock-unlock button program this one? or just hit the button?
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Old 05-16-2012, 11:17 PM   #41
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This is what an 04-05 Impreza remote should look like:


The problem with the teardrop style remote, besides the fact that they are really easy to hit by accident, is that there are at least 2 unique types. One set that can be programmed manually via either the cycle method or the lock x times method. The other set can only be programmed via a dealer programming tool, if at all?

This was mentioned a few posts back. It's pretty frustrating for sure! If you have someone in your local chapter you really trust or you know they don't know where you live, (lol) you could try their remote with your car, since you know theirs works, and if you still fail then it's your method/following instructions.
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:57 PM   #42
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Bahhh I'm going to be sooo bumbed if it doesnt work. Thanks 420WRX we will see if it does
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Old 05-17-2012, 06:18 PM   #43
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So I cant get any beeps or alarms to go off. Unless I lock it and try to get in with the key. then the alarm goes off lol. I unhooked the negative lead. Let is sit and pressed the brake for a while. Went lock-on both 10 and 11 times and no beep. opened door and no alarm.... Really confused
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just rock the key between the ON position and the first back position that makes the dash lights turn off. If you do it at least 16 times really fast and the horn does not honk, something else is doing you in.. Perhaps the alarm is in some diagnostic mode?
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I take it back lol!!! I just hadnt done it quite fast enough. Finally got it. Thanks for all the help guys
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I have an 07 impreza and just bougt a key fob online (after the first one I ordered was stolen from my mailbox). The instructions that came with the remote seem to be for the 05/older, with the open door, turn key 10 times, hit button on remote, open door. That does not work for me. I can get into the program mode, hearing the constant alarm beep, but when I open the door or remove the key, it beeps four times and turns off.

I'm pretty sure I need to do the process that involves manually entering the remote number using the lock/unlock buttons, but I'm not sure what number to enter. I have a white sticker inside my remote, but it is a combination of numbers and letters. Also, there is a 0, making it more conufusing. I've tried skipping the 0, clicking 10 times for 0 (it only lets me click 8 times before giving me an error), and clicking unlock twice in a row for the 0, and substituting numbers for the letters (they are only A, B, and C), all to no avail. The packing slip for the remote specifically says "2007 Subaru Impreza" and is from a company that specializes in keyless entry replacement remotes, but not directly from Subaru. The fob does have the Subaru logo on it, though, and looks slightly used.

Any suggestions? Both of the local dealerships here have quoted $100 and $150 just for the programming, and I'd prefer to avoid that as I've already bought 2 remotes after having the 1st stolen before I ever even saw it.

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http://www.cars101.com/subaru/keyless.html
Check this out. It was helpful to me.
As far as the numbers go, that isn't the one lol. There should be another one somewhere
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I have an 07 impreza and just bougt a key fob online (after the first one I ordered was stolen from my mailbox). The instructions that came with the remote seem to be for the 05/older, with the open door, turn key 10 times, hit button on remote, open door. That does not work for me. I can get into the program mode, hearing the constant alarm beep, but when I open the door or remove the key, it beeps four times and turns off.

I'm pretty sure I need to do the process that involves manually entering the remote number using the lock/unlock buttons, but I'm not sure what number to enter. I have a white sticker inside my remote, but it is a combination of numbers and letters. Also, there is a 0, making it more conufusing. I've tried skipping the 0, clicking 10 times for 0 (it only lets me click 8 times before giving me an error), and clicking unlock twice in a row for the 0, and substituting numbers for the letters (they are only A, B, and C), all to no avail. The packing slip for the remote specifically says "2007 Subaru Impreza" and is from a company that specializes in keyless entry replacement remotes, but not directly from Subaru. The fob does have the Subaru logo on it, though, and looks slightly used.

Any suggestions? Both of the local dealerships here have quoted $100 and $150 just for the programming, and I'd prefer to avoid that as I've already bought 2 remotes after having the 1st stolen before I ever even saw it.

You do have to do the second procedure, but it looks like you got a replacement remote for an older model, or you got it aftermarket.

Where do you live? (profile not filled out) $100 to program is extreme, considering it only takes about 10 minutes, from the time the car is pulled in until it's pulled out. Unless they are quoting you for a remote first.

It might be cheaper for you to drive to FL .......
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I'm in Washington, so about as far from Florida as possible. That might make it a bit cost prohibitive to make the drive...

I found another dealer near my new office that only charged $35 to hook it up and program. Unfortunately, it still didn't work, so no charge. I called the company I bought it from, dealt with a very unhelpful employee, called the next day, and was helped quickly by a different employee. She was surprised to hear there was not an 8 digit code inside the remote and shipped out a new one today. Hopefully I'll have a bit more luck with this one.

Thanks for your help.
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New remote= success. I'll note, however, that the doors did not lock/unlock on their own when I finished programming. Also, the remote didn't work immediately. I read the instructions again a couple more times, tried the remote out of frustration about a minute later , and it worked! Thanks for the help.
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