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Old 08-20-2008, 09:50 AM   #1
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Default My sportbike rider rant

I will say this before anyone claims I am just a cager thatís a bike heater, I have been riding for over 20 years now and no I am not a harley rider. Now for my rant.

While it use to be the rare guy giving sport bikers a bad name it seems now seeing a guy on a sport bike actually not being a total ashat is the exception to the rule. Pretty much everyone I see now days on a sport bike is doing 20+ the speed limit, passing on double yellows, and splitting lanes a 70+ MPH on a steadily moving highway. Another one thatís become real common is the Bike using the left turn lane to get even with the lead cars at a light then blasting straight out just to get a lead. I really think that all the youtube videos have made the younger riders think this is the norm and itís ok to put yourself, everyone around you, and piss off 99% of car drivers because you have a Bike that can perform. I have even seen people on here say itís ok because a bike can do this.

Iíll even bet people will respond in this thread that itís ok, itís there right to endanger only themselves and they are such good rider and their bikes are so good that they will never get into trouble. Even if they do, it will be the cars fault. These same people will post a thread about how all cars are out to kill them and they have no idea why the law and legislation is out to get them.

Come on people, use some common sense and especially use some courtesy


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Old 08-20-2008, 09:54 AM   #2
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I'd hate to be a bike heater, you'd be sweaty all the time.
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Old 08-20-2008, 09:55 AM   #3
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Agree!
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Old 08-20-2008, 09:58 AM   #4
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I will say this before anyone claims I am just a cager thatís a bike heater, I have been riding for over 20 years now and no I am not a harley rider. Now for my rant.

While it use to be the rare guy giving sport bikers a bad name it seems now seeing a guy on a sport bike actually not being a total ashat is the exception to the rule. Pretty much everyone I see now days on a sport bike is doing 20+ the speed limit, passing on double yellows, and splitting lanes a 70+ MPH on a steadily moving highway. Another one thatís become real common is the Bike using the left turn lane to get even with the lead cars at a light then blasting straight out just to get a lead. I really think that all the youtube videos have made the younger riders think this is the norm and itís ok to put yourself, everyone around you, and piss off 99% of car drivers because you have a Bike that can perform. I have even seen people on here say itís ok because a bike can do this.

Iíll even bet people will respond in this thread that itís ok, itís there right to endanger only themselves and they are such good rider and their bikes are so good that they will never get into trouble. Even if they do, it will be the cars fault. These same people will post a thread about how all cars are out to kill them and they have no idea why the law and legislation is out to get them.

Come on people, use some common sense and especially use some courtesy


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Old 08-20-2008, 09:58 AM   #5
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While I generally agree, I rode 10-15 over on the highway to avoid getting run the **** over. When youre riding at the same speed as a car in another lane, thats when you get merged into.

Im going to take a shot in the dark here and say you are in NC, since lane splitting is illegal in VA, GA, FL, SC and TN. Personally, I never did it, as I always thought it was another great way to get run the **** over. But, I see people do it all the time, especially in the RTP area. In fact, just last week I saw someone almost change lanes into a biker who was splitting down 540.
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Old 08-20-2008, 09:59 AM   #6
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We've been having this happen more and more in my area. Makes me almost not want to get my first bike. Of course normally its the 17-24 year old on a R1 or GSX-R1 with baggy jeans,Tims, and a wife beater on with their helmet NOT buckled or halfway on their head.
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:00 AM   #7
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i agree - i was riding on Sunday and some choadsniff on his sportbike creeps up next to me and starts doing random wheelies getting his front wheel a foot or so off the ground. then he'd look at me, slow down and do it again. his helmet was hanging of the back and he was in shorts and a t-shirt. i was embarrassed for him and myself.
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:03 AM   #8
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while I agree with the OP, many states have provisions in the laws to allow bikes to do everything he mention except for the speeding. I know I am personally guilty of jumping on the shoulder in bumper to bumper traffic to get past everyone, but that is also legal in most of the places I've done it.
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:05 AM   #9
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i agree.

i had a kid on an 08 gixxer 2 days ago. he was pulling standup wheelies in traffic with jeans and a t-shirt on (trying to, at least), about 3 cars ahead of me. i'm thinking "what is this kid doing?" turns off the main drag the same way i'm going. i'm about 200 yds behind him on a back road with no traffic (thankfully) and all of a sudden he eats ***** right in front of me (too much front brake and low sides it). i stop, he has nasty road rash everywhere and the palm of his left hand is mangled. tries to start the bike, and no go. its only got 850 miles on it. anyway, i find out he lives in my neighborhood so i give him a ride to the emergency room. he was a decent enough kid...

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Old 08-20-2008, 10:07 AM   #10
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wow - that sucks
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:07 AM   #11
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In California, and when properly done, its called "lane sharing" not "lane splitting" and if you're "lane sharing" double yellow lines mean dick, because, technically, you're not crossing them. As for the speed, yes, I agree, too many asshats on sport bikes speed like its their god given right. That said, stop whining. I like to think myself a safe rider, and I have had plenty of people in cars and trucks deliberately try and block my way/ squeeze me between other cars and walls, etc. There are just as many, if not more bad car drivers.

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Old 08-20-2008, 10:08 AM   #12
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While I generally agree, I rode 10-15 over on the highway to avoid getting run the **** over. When youre riding at the same speed as a car in another lane, thats when you get merged into.

Im going to take a shot in the dark here and say you are in NC, since lane splitting is illegal in VA, GA, FL, SC and TN. Personally, I never did it, as I always thought it was another great way to get run the **** over. But, I see people do it all the time, especially in the RTP area. In fact, just last week I saw someone almost change lanes into a biker who was splitting down 540.
Everyone I see going to work in the morning on I-95 HOV in noVA is going 10-20mph faster than the cars for that reason, to not get run over. I don't have a problem with that. I do have a problem when they tailgate.
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:09 AM   #13
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We've been having this happen more and more in my area. Makes me almost not want to get my first bike. Of course normally its the 17-24 year old on a R1 or GSX-R1 with baggy jeans,Tims, and a wife beater on with their helmet NOT buckled or halfway on their head.
This is exactly what I see on the other (MD) side of the beltway. The kids are flying between cars and kicking their legs out to the side to signal a lane change.
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:11 AM   #14
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...I’ll even bet people will respond in this thread that it’s ok, it’s there right to endanger only themselves and they are such good rider and their bikes are so good that they will never get into trouble. Even if they do, it will be the cars fault. These same people will post a thread about how all cars are out to kill them and they have no idea why the law and legislation is out to get them...
...till the day they are in a hospital bed, and my wife has to once again remind them how exactly did they lose that arm and a leg.
I hear these types of stories weekly, at the very least.
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:12 AM   #15
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20 MPH faster isn't to get run over...it mean fast closing speeds and being beside a car before they even know you are there. There is a no reason ride side by side, and if you want to go 5-10 MPH faster..great. Anything over that and you are just doing it for the speed. And as fas as being legal, some of you need to check you local laws. While lane splitting is legal in many states, Illegal passing, turn lane passing, others are not.

and bummer I missed the "heater" part.
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:14 AM   #16
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20 MPH faster isn't to get run over...it mean fast closing speeds and being beside a car before they even know you are there. There is a no reason ride side by side, and if you want to go 5-10 MPH faster..great. Anything over that and you are just doing it for the speed. And as fas as being legal, some of you need to check you local laws. While lane splitting is legal in many states, Illegal passing, turn lane passing, others are not.

and bummer I missed the "heater" part.
Well on the I-95 HOV it's more like... 20mph faster, then get stuck behind a car, then get an opening and shoot through at 20mph faster, then get stuck behind another car...
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There is a no reason ride side by side, and if you want to go 5-10 MPH faster..great. Anything over that and you are just doing it for the speed.
Agreed. I usually stuck to 10 over the flow of traffic and it worked well for me.
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:16 AM   #18
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bout the only thing i disagree with is the getting ahead of traffic at a stoplight. nothing scares me more than being in a pack / behind a back of stopped cars.
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This is exactly what I see on the other (MD) side of the beltway. The kids are flying between cars and kicking their legs out to the side to signal a lane change.
Where are you at Va or MD??? I mainly stay in and around the charlottesville area. Really bad around town and the police dont seem to do anything about them or to them.
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Where are you at Va or MD??? I mainly stay in and around the charlottesville area. Really bad around town and the police dont seem to do anything about them or to them.
I live in VA, south of DC...but I'm all over the DC area.
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:19 AM   #21
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OH, and about lane splitting..even in California..

It can be done, "At or below posted speed in a safe and Prudent manor".

Seems way to many take advantage of the law and really don't know what it actually says.

and about AMA...great organization..I wish more riders would actually read the stuff they send out.
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:24 AM   #22
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I live in VA, south of DC...but I'm all over the DC area.
Gotcha Im from the north Stafford Co. area and go to Fredricksburg alot in the summer time. Seems like its even worse up there. I almost got rear-ended by a bike on route 3 in the wilderness area. Saw him flying up on me and a car trying to pass me.
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:25 AM   #23
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It isn't all sport bikers. Around here, Harley riders are as bad, if not worse. Sure, we have our compliment of young retards lacking protective gear pulling **** in traffic. Not so much wheelies, but weaving, excessive speed, and general asshattery. The Harley folks tend to crowd lanes/centerlines, not stop at stop signs regardless of whose turn it is at the intersection, and tailgate to the point I'm surprised they don't pass out due to carbon monoxide poisoning. We have way more Harley riders that think they own the ****ing road than we have jerkwad crotch rocket pilots.

And not all Harley folks are dicks, and not all sport bikers are retards. If I had to break it down, Buell, BMW, and enduro/supermoto-type riders most often exhibit rational behavior.
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BTW,
JARD...My old stomping ground was Fairfax....Lived off of Gallows RD.
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