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Old 09-02-2008, 03:45 AM   #1
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Lightbulb Mac or PC?

Hey guys, I was thinking of buying a MAC for my parents because every time I come home for the weekend, the PC they use seems to always have new problems with it.

Keep in mind my folks are not tech savvy and are first generation to this country. They might be clicking random things on websites that might install malicious software.

Common tasks my parents use on the computer are, Email, Banking, Uploading photos, Microsoft Word, and Browsing the Internet.

(I'm an avid PC user, never really touched a MAC, but I as well was thinking of getting a MAC book...)

So what are your thoughts on MAC's? I know they are reliable, never owned one. Someone sell me! Any help would be great.
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Old 09-02-2008, 03:50 AM   #2
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Oh my god.

Here we go.

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Old 09-02-2008, 03:50 AM   #3
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Old 09-02-2008, 03:54 AM   #5
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well...

i haven't been on the forum much because i hated my old job so i quit and now i'm unemployed. i had been looking for jobs but now i'm on the forums.

so what i'm doing up is being in the northwest and staying up till 1 for the hell of it.

i have some work i could be doing but i'll get to it at some point. i'm just depressed over not having any income.
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Old 09-02-2008, 03:58 AM   #6
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i'm just depressed over not having any income.
They best way to get over your depression is to buy a bunch of high end macbook pro's for everyone you know, OP and his parents included.
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Old 09-02-2008, 03:59 AM   #7
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i think you mean "steal"

i can only "steal"
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Old 09-02-2008, 04:04 AM   #8
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Mac all the way! F*ck PC!!!
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Old 09-02-2008, 04:05 AM   #9
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You sir, win at the internetz.

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Old 09-02-2008, 04:06 AM   #10
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well...

i haven't been on the forum much because i hated my old job so i quit and now i'm unemployed. i had been looking for jobs but now i'm on the forums.

so what i'm doing up is being in the northwest and staying up till 1 for the hell of it.

i have some work i could be doing but i'll get to it at some point. i'm just depressed over not having any income.
ahhh the north west. Its 4 am here on the east coast. Does it help that your bugeye is my favorite car on the forums? I hope so, and I hope you get a job soon. Best of luck.
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Old 09-02-2008, 04:09 AM   #11
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you're kidding right? i mean, thanks either way, but my bugeye is like, the epitome of ho-hum.

anyway, i shouldn't have said i quit cuz i hated it. i quit because i wasn't making enough to house myself.

thanks for the kind wishes.
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wow thanks for the help...
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you're kidding right? i mean, thanks either way, but my bugeye is like, the epitome of ho-hum.

anyway, i shouldn't have said i quit cuz i hated it. i quit because i wasn't making enough to house myself.

thanks for the kind wishes.
well I am drunk, but you have all the prodrive right? I did a search, and I believe its yours....
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Old 09-02-2008, 04:29 AM   #14
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basically... mac is the way to go if you're not tech savy, and it's also the way to go if you're tech savy and loaded.

reliable? well...

let's just say get the apple care plan. then no matter what happens to it within 3 years, you don't pay a cent and you get the best service customers have ever been dealt.

i will just say that i'm on my third macbook harddrive. for some reason it likes to kill them.

luckily, i've only paid for the service, none of the repairs or parts. applecare is the bombdigity.

nothing gives you as much style, performance, and ease of use as a mac. it's because they're designed that way. you pay for it, but it's seriously awesome to not have to worry about getting viruses. and i haven't and don't.
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Old 09-02-2008, 04:29 AM   #15
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wow thanks for the help...
Sorry man,

The answer to your question is ALL over the internet. You sound like you have a pretty good idea of the differences between the machines.

Just go to a local apple store and see how long it takes for you to pick it up, it'll take them about 3x as long. If you get pissed off, don't even bother.

Mac may be nice, but for some people change isn't only good, it's impossible.
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Old 09-02-2008, 04:34 AM   #16
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car you are thinking of:

my car:

big difference. but it's cool.
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Old 09-02-2008, 04:41 AM   #17
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Sorry man,

The answer to your question is ALL over the internet. You sound like you have a pretty good idea of the differences between the machines.

Just go to a local apple store and see how long it takes for you to pick it up, it'll take them about 3x as long. If you get pissed off, don't even bother.

Mac may be nice, but for some people change isn't only good, it's impossible.
"The answer to your question is ALL over the internet." - i just wanted a quick response from this forum, didnt feel like google

"You sound like you have a pretty good idea of the differences between the machines. " - i dont know the differences. i just know macs dont get viruses as easy.

"Just go to a local apple store and see how long it takes for you to pick it up, it'll take them about 3x as long." - i did go to the apple store like 3 times in the past month, but i still dont know much about them. i have questions that the apple store would probably not want to answer. like, is it easy to pirate unlicensed programs ie photoshop CS3? does it crash ?

i hear things that all the programs work together, but what does that mean?? when i plug in my digital camera, does it auto upload my pictures on the MAC? and then auto upload it on the internet? can it do things like that?

i really dont know anything about them. i come here for serious help, im not messing around...

this forum is turning into a civic forum where when someone asks a question that may not know anything about, they get flamed... and its like geeze, i really dont know about, cant i just get an answer instead of "its all over the internet."

but thanks anyway
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basically... mac is the way to go if you're not tech savy, and it's also the way to go if you're tech savy and loaded.

reliable? well...

let's just say get the apple care plan. then no matter what happens to it within 3 years, you don't pay a cent and you get the best service customers have ever been dealt.

i will just say that i'm on my third macbook harddrive. for some reason it likes to kill them.

luckily, i've only paid for the service, none of the repairs or parts. applecare is the bombdigity.

nothing gives you as much style, performance, and ease of use as a mac. it's because they're designed that way. you pay for it, but it's seriously awesome to not have to worry about getting viruses. and i haven't and don't.
thanks for the input, see i didnt know their harddrives have probs
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let's just say get the apple care plan. then no matter what happens to it within 3 years, you don't pay a cent and you get the best service customers have ever been dealt.i will just say that i'm on my third macbook harddrive. for some reason it likes to kill them.luckily, i've only paid for the service, none of the repairs or parts. applecare is the bombdigity.
Applecare is pretty good, I've had 3 harddives replaced for "free" in my powerbook, no charge for service. When keys started falling off they considered it cosmetic and didn't want to cover it. But, if you're a hot chick with huge cans they'll just give you a new computer.
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it only crashes when you go to internet websites that cause HUGE failures. it's a computer, it crashes. on my pc i counted the days between crashes, on my macbook i count the weeks and it usually is a month or two.

it's not easy to pirate software, but it happens. the problem with pirating is that there are fewer people running the mac software so there's less demand for programs to get cracked, and the code is usually proprietary so it's a little tighter and more secure.

basically... if you want CS3 for your non-savy parents i can't help you.

if you want a good computer that will perform exceedingly well... pony up the cash for it. pirating software isn't something you do when you are the type to go droping large sums of money on hardware. it's something you do when you have linux running on one partition and an old pirated copy of xp running on the other on your pieced together homemade gaming machine.

or not, whatever.

just try not to get all upset over what this forum is or what it's turning into. this forum was and grew into and out of all of those things long before you were a member.
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Applecare is pretty good, I've had 3 harddives replaced for "free" in my powerbook, no charge for service. When keys started falling off they considered it cosmetic and didn't want to cover it. But, if you're a hot chick with huge cans they'll just give you a new computer.
that depends on which "genius bar" you go to. and you can hire a chick with big cans to get your computer fixed for less than it would cost to actually fix the computer.


and as far as harddrives go... i don't know that all apple computer harddrives fail a lot, i think it depends on what harddrive they ship with and what harddrive they use and what kind of usage they get. laptop harddrives have NEVER been one of those "oh this should last you decades" parts.
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thanks for the input, see i didnt know their harddrives have probs
i know a friend whos macbook's hardrive got replaced twice...but same with her IBM laptop...

either she likes killing harddrives or both ibm and mac eats hardrives for their anual dinner....thanfully she has protection plan on both her laptops so she doesnt pay a dime. just annoying how she has to go get her computer fixed so many times and instead of saving everything on her computer, she uses an external hardrive
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this forum is turning into a civic forum where when someone asks a question that may not know anything about, they get flamed... and its like geeze, i really dont know about, cant i just get an answer instead of "its all over the internet."

but thanks anyway
You're pissed because I gave you a broad generalized answer? I could have gone in and told you about the issue with the earlier macbooks and the kernel panics. I could have told you about the melting processors in the macbook pros, I could have told you about the logic board problem that has plagued every apple computer since I can remember.

BUT INSTEAD.

Seeing as how you're too inept to even use google, I thought I'd put it in layman's terms for you.

Don't get me wrong, I love all 3 apple computers I have that run and at least 3-4 in the closet that don't, but they do have issues. If you are talking exclusively notebooks, other than the logic board and the operating system there's not much difference between an apple and any of their competitors. I don't want to start a "apple user higher quality products war" because it's useless. Apple was even caught red handed selling samsung screens that had half of the color producing ability than what they were advertised.

They are what they are. They are a well built and well engineered machine that (this goes for any PC as well) if taken care of correctly will last for years to come.

If I were you, I would buy the rents a CHEAP maybe even refub mac mini, and if you really wanted to splurge maybe an imac. Since the most they're going to be doing is checking email and paying bills they don't need anything too fancy, and a low powered quiet machine will probably be something they would enjoy. I don't really condone the purchase of an all in one computer like that especially with the track record of the 2 imacs that i've had. The first one had the transistors on the board blow up, and the CD drive just crapped out a week ago. My G4 still runs, but it's just dog slow. It's mostly for decoration at this point.

Lastly, if you decide you want to undertake this endeavor I would seriously recommend that you purchase apple remote desktop. This will allow you to log into your parent's computer from anywhere and help them with things. This will keep you from having to make several trips over to their home during the learning process and make the transition much easier for them.

I'm sorry that you got the typical nasioc response to this question, but seriously this topic has been beat to death. Both operating systems have their pros and cons, period. I love apple, but I also have a brain to see that nothing they've ever made is perfect, unlike most fanbois.

Good luck.
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that depends on which "genius bar" you go to. and you can hire a chick with big cans to get your computer fixed for less than it would cost to actually fix the computer.


and as far as harddrives go... i don't know that all apple computer harddrives fail a lot, i think it depends on what harddrive they ship with and what harddrive they use and what kind of usage they get. laptop harddrives have NEVER been one of those "oh this should last you decades" parts.
I upgraded to a hitachi 7200rpm drive and never looked back.
Also with 4Gb of ram, this thing is screamin'
I can do video rendering, VMware (Ubunut, XP) and several other things at the same time with no system slow down.
I highly recommend you at least try a mac before making a purchase. Mine has been excellent.
Also, new MacBooks/Pro are just around the corner, so if you're obsessed over having the newest product, wait.
One more thing, check up on Apple's refurb list. They will sometimes have screaming deals on refurb MacBooks/any other product. All of these look new, and have full manufacturer warranty. There is no reason not to go with refurb.
That is all. I think that came off non-fanboyish?
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