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Old 10-26-2015, 10:14 PM   #1
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I was thinking of adding another sealant over the current sealant I have on my car. It was applied just over a month ago and is supposed to last 2-6 months. Water still beads fine but doesn't blow off as much while driving like it used to. During the winter months the only way I can wash my car is through delta sonic so I was thinking sealant would be better than wax since wax wears out after a month or two. Once it starts snowing the next time I will be able to detail myself will be late march or early april.
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Old 10-27-2015, 07:32 AM   #2
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What's currently on there? Winter is coming, I'll be getting ready very soon. My plan is OptiSeal and a couple coats of a carnauba based wax. I used to use ICE and like the ease of application, but there are better products out there.
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Old 10-27-2015, 08:05 AM   #3
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I just purchased a 2016 WRX, brand new off the truck. i was wondering do new cars come with this sort of fashion from the get go, or should I apply some protection. Also, does sealant apply the same as wax. I've never sealed a car before
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Old 10-27-2015, 12:54 PM   #4
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Sealant and then wax as a topper is always a winner. My WRX has the CQuartz finest coating, but on my MDX I run the the following.

Klasse twins,

Klasse All-In-One

Klasse High Gloss Sealant

Topped with Collinite 845

Great combo!

@That_Boosted_Life, when you say Delta Sonic, is that an automatic wash? Try a self service wash, and just take two buckets with gamma lids filled with hot water. One with clean water, and one with soapy water.

You can use the high pressure hose at a self service wash bay on just the rinse setting, and still clean the car by hand with the hot water you have in the buckets.
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Old 10-27-2015, 12:59 PM   #5
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Yea it's an automatic wash. Not sure what sealant was put on it but I think it begins with a "w". I would use the self service wash but during the winter the temp in Buffalo is usually in the teens or low 20's and there's no enclosed or heated ones that I know of.
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Old 11-06-2015, 09:46 PM   #6
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Confirmed with this car's owner, that it has never been clay barred, wet sanded, polished, CQuartz nor equivalent, nor sealed. There have only been two things put on its paint, e.g. Meguiar's NXT wax, followed by Turtle ICE wax. Amazing shine.


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Old 11-07-2015, 12:38 AM   #7
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Turtle wax ice is good stuff . . . Lasts long and holds up to the north east salt for a good 45-60 days, even the lower parts of my wagon. If you have the ability to wash and wax over the winter at least once that's all you need IMO
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Old 11-07-2015, 08:41 AM   #8
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Turtle Wax Ice Spray is decent. Its less than .1% of carnuba wax(according to MSDS) though. The Ice paste wax is a much better choice, containing more Silicate for a slicker surface than the ice spray could provide.
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Old 11-07-2015, 11:00 AM   #9
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We are not affiliated with Shine Supply but we use it on our cars and recommend to all the customers. It is awesome stuff.

We do:

Step 1: Classic Polish
Step 2: Daddio Sealant
Step 3: Banana Shine

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Old 11-08-2015, 04:21 AM   #10
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Wax but not the turtle wax
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Old 11-08-2015, 02:17 PM   #11
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For the best and easiest paint protection...
I do two coats of Megiars Synthetic 2.0 sealant in October and another 2 coats of sealant in early spring(after a prewax cleaner). I don't even wax in between. Not even quick wax. There is no need to.

If your car already has had sealant applied to it and you want to get ahead of the winter salt. Throw some wax on there. Concentrated liquid or paste, whichever you prefer. NOT anything that has the word 'Quick' in the title. Stuff is garbage for protection. You'll want to do two coats of wax to make sure you have full even coverage. Second coat goes on much easier.
That will allow your Optiseal to stay fresh until at least end of December before wax gets worn away.
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Old 11-10-2015, 03:29 PM   #12
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Not that stuff you can buy at an walmart/auto parts store is junk, but it is far from the best. I always recommend speaking with Phil at detailers domain. he will guide you as to what to use for what you are looking to accomplish. That Vette looks sweet, but is most likely a garage queen. If you DD your car, you need stuff that can hold up to the hell we put it through. To say the car has never been clayed as if it was a good thing is ludicrous. The stuff you pull out with clay you cant see. I have seen cars that look amazing, but run your fingers down the side and they feel rough. Again, not saying the Vette isn't perfect, it may be, but a new car usually travels exposed for at least a period of time, and once that happens, the "factory new" paint isn't factory new anymore. There is a reason a new car prep at a high end detailer goes through clay, and polishing before putting a sealant on. Most cars are already in need of help before you pick them up.

Anything from Mazerna, Adams, Sonax is what I typically use. Tons of new nano coatings coming out though and it may be time for me to try them.
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Old 11-14-2015, 08:14 PM   #13
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Not that stuff you can buy at an walmart/auto parts store is junk, but it is far from the best. I always recommend speaking with Phil at detailers domain. he will guide you as to what to use for what you are looking to accomplish. That Vette looks sweet, but is most likely a garage queen. If you DD your car, you need stuff that can hold up to the hell we put it through. To say the car has never been clayed as if it was a good thing is ludicrous. The stuff you pull out with clay you cant see. I have seen cars that look amazing, but run your fingers down the side and they feel rough. Again, not saying the Vette isn't perfect, it may be, but a new car usually travels exposed for at least a period of time, and once that happens, the "factory new" paint isn't factory new anymore. There is a reason a new car prep at a high end detailer goes through clay, and polishing before putting a sealant on. Most cars are already in need of help before you pick them up.

Anything from Mazerna, Adams, Sonax is what I typically use. Tons of new nano coatings coming out though and it may be time for me to try them.
So here's my issue with your post. I've used significant amount of the product brands you've listed, with the addition of; Griots, Mothers, Wolfgang, Pinnacle, Chemical Guys, Poorboys, Collinite, the list goes on. I'd like to take the time to mention the fact that no matter WHAT product you use if the paint is not prepared properly your super expensive sealants/wax products are worthless. I would tell people that ANY wax/sealant is better than nothing. If you look at all of these companies MSDS/TDS documents the composition of ALL of these products is damn near identical the only difference is concentration of chemicals.

If someone wants to wax the care with Turtle Wax Ice, go for it! Your $9-$13 investment is going to provide you with the same protection as a $50 alternative, the difference may all be in application of product and material bonding.

All the matters is the products you buy fit your needs.
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Old 11-14-2015, 11:35 PM   #14
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If someone wants to wax the care with Turtle Wax Ice, go for it! Your $9-$13 investment is going to provide you with the same protection as a $50 alternative, the difference may all be in application of product and material bonding.
Yea this seems to be true for waxes for the most part. The only difference between sealants that I can find is how long they last and if they leave a shine like wax.
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Old 11-17-2015, 02:12 AM   #15
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This
http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-po...ing-agent.html
Then this
http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-to...ce-polish.html

It's not a shiny fancy bottle, but it works fantastically. Oh, and it's cheap and applies/removes with ease.
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