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Old 09-26-2013, 04:32 AM   #1
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Default Waxing after a Polish

Is it OK to apply a wax right after polishing? I am going to use NU finish polish and want to followup with a meguires carnuba wax.

The reason I ask is that as I understand it, the polish breaks down any wax and general "stuff" on the paint and it doesnt exactly happen instantly. So, if the polish going to break down a wax put on top of it?

**edit** in reasearching NU Finish one a year car polish.. is this stuff even real polish? Sounds like people just use it and dont wax over it.
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Old 09-26-2013, 07:10 AM   #2
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IMHO i'd recommend a sealant instead of a wax. it lasts way longer
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:15 AM   #3
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Old 09-26-2013, 09:38 AM   #4
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You didn't spend $26,000+ for a car to just use crappy Nu Finish did you? Research on the forum and you'll find some nice products out there...I have the same color as you and Nu Finish isn't going to do you much good. Two bucket wash with grit guards and get yourself a good polish and finish with a wax or sealant...at a minimum. Our color isn't as hard as black to care for but it is close...swirls and fine scratches show pretty easy.
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Old 09-26-2013, 11:42 AM   #5
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It's more of a wax/sealant than a polish. I just use it on my wheels
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Old 09-26-2013, 12:25 PM   #6
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Nu Finish is essentially a cleaner wax...kind of, it will clean the paint up a little like a fine polish would. It contains fillers like a glaze to make you think it did a glorious job and it leaves a little something behind like a wax so the water beads and you think to yourself, "Self, if Zeus detailed cars this is what the F he would use!"

Its crap....

Polish does not breakdown wax, it removes it with abrasives or chemicals. You can polish first and then wax over top of it. Polish doesn't leave much behind aside from the oils or some fillers which can be easily removed with an Isopropyl alcohol/water mixture.
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Old 09-26-2013, 10:21 PM   #7
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Nu Finish is essentially a cleaner wax...kind of, it will clean the paint up a little like a fine polish would. It contains fillers like a glaze to make you think it did a glorious job and it leaves a little something behind like a wax so the water beads and you think to yourself, "Self, if Zeus detailed cars this is what the F he would use!"

Its crap....

Polish does not breakdown wax, it removes it with abrasives or chemicals. You can polish first and then wax over top of it. Polish doesn't leave much behind aside from the oils or some fillers which can be easily removed with an Isopropyl alcohol/water mixture.

You guys have been very helpful.. I went ahead with the products I have at this moment because the weather was PERFECT to do this today. I will order a real sealant and use wax on top next time. I will research and let my car get a bit worse before doing anything about scuffs a-holes have put in my paint such as an abrasive polish. I will of course claybar as I do the panels over with glaze to remove the NU Finish.

Today though I used:
Chemical Guys (CWS_101) Maxi Suds II Superior Surface Shampoo
With a Meguiar's Microfiber Wash Mitt
and the MTM foam cannon and a Viking Microfiber Waffle Weave Drying Towel to dry the car using a 2 bucket setup with grit guards.

Rinsed it with a garden hose, then quick go over with pressure washer from far away and a final rinse with the nozzle off the hose to help dry quicker.


Once dry.. I used NU Finish with applicator pads (never used them before today and it helped a lot with spreading thin layers), wiped with a microfiber and then Meguires Gold Carnuba wax on top and microfibered off again.

Looks better, hopefully bugs wont turn to glue as bad as they have been recently.





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Old 09-27-2013, 03:45 PM   #8
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Old 10-13-2013, 07:57 PM   #9
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+1 for Griots One Step Sealant.
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Old 10-14-2013, 12:55 PM   #10
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If you are concerned that a polish may have residual oils left on the car after polishing is complete, (even if you don't it is a good idea) You can do an IPA wipedown (diluted) or use some type of pre-wax paint cleaner. This will help insure you have a good surface to bond your wax or sealant to.
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Old 10-16-2013, 02:57 PM   #11
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I use the Blackfire Wet Diamond products on my black sti, I normally just use a sealant but there will be times I seal then past wax just depends on the look I want

Here is the kits I buy from amazon
Amazon.com: Blackfire Wet-ice Over Fire Kit: AutomotiveAmazon.com: Blackfire Wet-ice Over Fire Kit: Automotive
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Old 11-01-2013, 11:25 AM   #12
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I just used Blackfire sealant as well. It has been 1.5 months and has rained a lot where two of those storms flooded parts of the city. In other words, mega rain. Water still beads very well considering it has seen 7-8 rain storms.

I also really dig Chemicalguys product but haven't tried their waxes or sealants. They carry a wax for black cars and like products for dark cars that you should check out.

My Steps: clay if you need to, polish, seal, liquid wax, paste wax, wash again and budget 4-5 hours of your life. :P
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Old 11-16-2013, 12:35 PM   #13
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MtnXFreeride your car looks great. I finally took a Sunday and broke out the Porter Cable and a the host of BlackFire products and tried to clean up my 08 OBP WRX. I bought all this stuff in the Spring but never got around to using it. Swirls and scratches galore. Next time I'll take pics. I washed with Mequiars premium car soap and then clayed the entire car. Next came Blackfire SRC compound, SRC finishing polish and Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection (sealant). This is their total swirl remover kit. I used Blackfire Midnight Sun Ivory Carnuba Paste Wax on the hood. Using the Porter Cable was easyand the results were outstanding for my novice detailing. Swirls and light scratches were gone and the car had a deep deep finish. What was a bummer is all the paint chips especially on the front bumper and hood were now in full sight. Get the Porter Cable or Griots polisher--it's worth it.
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Old 11-24-2013, 11:16 AM   #14
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I second the Blackfire wet Diamond sealant. Easy on and off and last a good while.
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