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Old 09-14-2008, 09:55 PM   #26
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Its SOHC, But you probally are right.
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Old 09-14-2008, 11:04 PM   #27
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Is it alright that i used a 0.44 gap in my plugs? Thats stock spec, could that be a problem too?
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Old 09-14-2008, 11:40 PM   #28
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ok. From what i have read so far, you are getting an initial spark and it will light up for a second and then stumble. Are there any engine codes?

Sounds like your injectors are working right and you are getting a priming spray in the cylinders. One way of checking is to get some starter fluid and spary it into the intake to see if the car will run. If it doesn't run, there definately a sensor problem. If you didn't hook up the check engine light, one way of reading the light is to get a dash bulb and hook up the one side to positive and the other side to the CEL wire from the ECU and then count the flashing light.

Get that info first and then trouble shooting will be a lot easier.

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Old 09-14-2008, 11:43 PM   #29
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While cranking it? Whats starter fluid? How much should i use?
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:07 AM   #30
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hey, in your video. Your check engine light never came on, not even for a brief second when you put the key to on. Your ecu might not be getting power...


edit: saw the other vids, looks like you are getting some combustion. There is definitely an electrical or mechanical issue though...that car does not crank smoothly at all.
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:34 AM   #31
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hey, in your video. Your check engine light never came on, not even for a brief second when you put the key to on. Your ecu might not be getting power...


edit: saw the other vids, looks like you are getting some combustion. There is definitely an electrical or mechanical issue though...that car does not crank smoothly at all.
You said it, ill be trying the starter fluid tommorow then try the codes on tuesday, also CEL is in top left
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Old 09-15-2008, 09:46 AM   #32
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Isn't there a way this guy could have avoided some of this hassle, I mean this with the best intent...I appreciate the fact guys want to swap engine parts between models, but it seems like people are reinventing the wheel over and over again. Isn't there a chart put together by a few of you experts out there, to know what parts are interchangeable to what engines? That would be a great help here.
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Old 09-15-2008, 11:36 AM   #33
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I guesss that sounds like a good idea, i wasent aware of the fact that it could of been a sensor, now its time to search!
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:02 PM   #34
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Just wire in that standalone that you have and use the sensors that came with the engine, it'll fix all of those problems.
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:20 PM   #35
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I'm too lazy to look at the videos, but it really sounds like you have the coil pack wires on the wrong cylinders. Everytime I pull my engine, this happens to me. Quadruple check the coil pack wires...you never know.
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Old 09-16-2008, 12:22 AM   #36
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The wires go to the right cylinders but it is a diffrent numbered one to each cylinders but other than that they go straight across, Can i just use my stock legacy sensors like i am now and use the engine mangment?
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Old 09-16-2008, 01:48 AM   #37
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Isn't there a way this guy could have avoided some of this hassle, I mean this with the best intent...I appreciate the fact guys want to swap engine parts between models, but it seems like people are reinventing the wheel over and over again. Isn't there a chart put together by a few of you experts out there, to know what parts are interchangeable to what engines? That would be a great help here.
Some people really don't need to be trying swaps like this (OP). It's a combination of lack of experience, research, and knowledge.
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Old 09-16-2008, 01:55 AM   #38
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your fuel regulator is not in the correct spot from what I read....You have PM Sir
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Old 09-16-2008, 10:51 PM   #39
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your fuel regulator is not in the correct spot from what I read....You have PM Sir

Thanks for the pm man, big help youve been

Can i find the EJ25 sohc Cam gear and crank sensor and wire than using my ECU?
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Old 09-16-2008, 10:54 PM   #40
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Some people really don't need to be trying swaps like this (OP). It's a combination of lack of experience, research, and knowledge.
Thanks man i really appreciate that, You are only seeing the problems im having and not all the research, posting and countless hours and $$$ spent on this. If you read the dates on this thread, You will see, thanks for the support though im trying to do my best
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:11 PM   #41
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Too all the guys going out of their way to pm me, ITS MUCH APPRECIATED! AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HELP!

Im going to try to find the sensors that came with the moter and see what happens.
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Old 09-17-2008, 06:13 PM   #42
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do u have the fuel lines mixed up on the fuel filter?
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Old 09-18-2008, 12:36 AM   #43
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do u have the fuel lines mixed up on the fuel filter?

I dont believe so, as i am getting combustion
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Old 09-18-2008, 12:27 PM   #44
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So silentt, Do you think i should get a pp6? AS you have a base map i can work off of correct?
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Old 09-18-2008, 10:58 PM   #45
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Does anyone have experience with the PP6 and this gen legacy(94)
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Old 09-19-2008, 09:03 AM   #46
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everyone's gotta start somewhere. Some just take baby steps and never get to a project car, others dive in and give up and have a project car sitting in the driveway for years. Kudos for getting your feet wet (as well as your torso) and sticking with it.

Now... onto your issues. Everyone has brought up some areas that definately need to be addressed.. so I see no need in rehashing that. But the one that sticks out in my mind is the SOHC computer trying to work with the DOHC heads- Even if the cam sensors are the same, I dont think they are trying to obtain the same readings. (they might be, Im not sure)

If your saying there is spark, and the fuel pump is going, tap the injector wires and see if they are acutally firing. Not to sound a little silly, but if you have no fuel in the system... especially if your cranking, pull a plug, and find no fuel ont he plug... and no smell of gasoline....
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Old 09-19-2008, 11:17 AM   #47
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as long as the gears are correct with the sensors....you should be good. I used DOHC ej20g heads on a ej18 block with ej18 wiring and ej18 cam and crank sensors....I did however swap the ej18 cam sprocket that the sensor reads onto the ej20g cam.

btw your fuel pump sounds like ****, replace it.
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Old 09-19-2008, 11:56 AM   #48
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are the fuel lines mixed up? return is feed & feed is on return ?
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:48 PM   #49
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Just throwing this out there did u time the engine right? because if its off yoiu will never get it to run either.
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Old 09-19-2008, 02:22 PM   #50
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ALright this is the deal.


I bought the engine off a guy who had built the engine obviously.

They are SOHC EJ25 heads on EJ22T block.
He was operating it on a 2.5RS ECU with a piggyback (So im assuming the timing is royally ****ed)
Alse the Fuel pump does sound ****ed but i have tried cranking it for a while, getting enough combustion to clear an fuel in the lines and i will still get combustion.

Since ive been busy as ****, Saturday is going to be a big day for me.

Im going to check for Fuel pressure, Where should i tap the line for this? In between the FPR and the return?
Then if all is well, i guess i will check timing, i am getting spark and even when my fuel lines were mixed all up i did have fuel in the system, so the fuel is doing something, I figure i may as well upgrade to a walbro anyways, SO ill order one on the 25th when i get payed.

If anyone had anything else to say, all this help has gone miles and miles for me you guys are my gods and sometimes it just needs another approach, thats why ive sat on it for a coupla days and done other things, ive painted my rims, researched on tires and such.

Also TurboL, What i should do is probally find the EJ25 SOHC cam sensor instead of using the EJ22 Cam sensor, Kepp my Stock crank sensor(EJ22T)

Who knows the interchangibility, of the EJ25 SOHC cam gear sensor?

Also im confused, What year of RS used the SOHC EJ25? I believe it was a 99RS with a 4eat tranny Silent was using.
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