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Old 09-15-2008, 12:52 AM   #1
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Default OT's HipHop/underground music

i'm kind of inspired by the lil wayne thread to talk about a MC who is truly respectable. his wordplay is amazing, and he talks about whats really going on with a lot of depth and perspective. on top of that, his delivery skills are great, flows very well, etc.

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thieves in the night
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mos def- mathematics
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...real hip hop is not what you hear on TV
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:53 AM   #2
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+1 for most definitely.

mathematics is awesome.
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:54 AM   #3
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eh, hes not bad
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:54 AM   #4
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He is pretty good I must say. Actually like him in movies too.
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:55 AM   #5
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i've read a college thesis on one of his songs. its really incredible because it didnt come off the page like bull****.

with the acting and to me, especially, Def Poetry Jam, I love what he contributes to culture.
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:55 AM   #6
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eh, hes not bad
have you ever heard him freestyle?

the songs he has produced aren't too great. But when the man freestyles its jaw-dropping.

He's truly one of the best.
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:55 AM   #7
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another +1 for mos def.

and another +1 for talib kweli.
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:55 AM   #8
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i'm kind of inspired by the lil wayne thread to talk about a MC who is truly respectable. his wordplay is amazing, and he talks about whats really going on with a lot of depth and perspective. on top of that, his delivery skills are great, flows very well, etc.

examples:

thieves in the night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LQiuQ1xIBM

mos def- mathematics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycJ5m5Mt9JE




...real hip hop is not what you hear on TV
wrong


mosdef can play a couple instruments too. i was severely tricked when i bought his second album to find it wasn't even rap
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:56 AM   #9
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One of the few true rappers left. Lil Wayne is a joke.
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:56 AM   #11
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Another brit rapper I enjoy is Roots Manuva.

http://wayoutrootsmanuva.ytmnd.com/
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Old 09-15-2008, 01:00 AM   #12
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I have not heard him freestyle but I would say im a pretty big fan of underground/old-school rap. check out NonPhixion, 7L & esoteric or diabolic, jedi mind tricks, Dr.Octagon. i could go on. As for producers J Dilla, Rza, dj premier, dj q-bert. they're all amazing
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Old 09-15-2008, 01:01 AM   #13
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Rapper yes. Actor no. No one has mentioned lupe fiasco yet.
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Old 09-15-2008, 01:01 AM   #14
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Ah...you're on the outer edge of the underground. Get past the trendy crap like Mos Def and discover a whole new world. He, is nowhere NEAR being the best.
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Old 09-15-2008, 01:04 AM   #16
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Ah...you're on the outer edge of the underground. Get past the trendy crap like Mos Def and discover a whole new world. He, is nowhere NEAR being the best.
who might you reccomend?
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Old 09-15-2008, 01:08 AM   #17
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who might you reccomend?
Atmosphere, Aesop Rock, Blueprint, Murs, Slug, Sims, RJD2, Del tha Funkee Homosapien, Immortal Technique...

Lil Wane perpetuates all of the things that build negative stereotypes for hip hop in general.
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Old 09-15-2008, 01:10 AM   #18
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MC Hammer died!?!

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Old 09-15-2008, 01:10 AM   #19
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Atmosphere, Aesop Rock, Blueprint, Murs, Slug, Sims, RJD2, Del tha Funkee Homosapien, Immortal Technique...

Lil Wane perpetuates all of the things that build negative stereotypes for hip hop in general.
thats not THAT underground....RJD2 and Del, Aesop. Thats just listing off the Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2 soundtrack.....

and you know I'm right.
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Atmosphere, Aesop Rock, Blueprint, Murs, Slug, Sims, RJD2, Del tha Funkee Homosapien, Immortal Technique...
Living Legends, Eligh, The Grouch, AESOP, Bliss N Eso.

Can never forget about Big L....
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Old 09-15-2008, 01:14 AM   #21
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RJD2 and Talib Kweli both played my college. and both rocked.

but they weren't no mos def.
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Old 09-15-2008, 01:15 AM   #22
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trendy crap like Mos Def
yeah, i know many hip hop heads who the second an MC gets popular to a certain point, they don't like him that much anymore


yes you can go way "deeper" into the underground and there is a lot of amazing talent out there....i dont think it negates the fact the mos def is a great MC, even though he's way more famous than people under the stairs
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thats not THAT underground....RJD2 and Del, Aesop. Thats just listing off the Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2 soundtrack.....

and you know I'm right.
Sorry, never played that game. I was just listing music that I liked that wasn't Lil Wane.
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A few that I like but can't find much of is, LOA (Live on Arrival), SEEK, Quite Nyce, Edo-G and RADIx.
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i know aesop, and rjd2. immortal just raps about the same thing in all of his songs and i swear he has a thesaurus right next to him to find the biggest words he can use in his songs. Big L's amazing, The last emperor, KRS one, necro(only if your ****ed up, i mean in the head) Rakim & Eric B. Radio sucks
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