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Old 10-30-2010, 12:01 PM   #1251
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...but there is something I didn't think of when talking to him -- since we have AWD cars, does the snow/ice traction decrease from a studless ice/snow to a performance winter hurt us that much?
Also, I forgot something.

In reading through Russian tests dating back to 2005, they'd already commented on the different behavior of various tires when fitted to different vehicles, thinking that their recommendations should change based on the availability, for example, of vehicle stability control systems and the like.

Yes, it's undeniable that AWD gives us a traction advantage - a narrow one, in this context, but an advantage nonetheless - but whether the decrease in wintry-precip. traction "hurts as much" when dropping from a "Studless Ice & Snow" to a "Performance Winter" becomes a question that can only be addressed in a relative sense.
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Old 10-30-2010, 01:21 PM   #1252
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So is tirerack going to put the 16" package options for the 2011 wrx/sti?
Only the 17" wheel options are available and when shopping with 2011 wrx selected I can't look at cheap 16" rims.

I don't want to run 17 for the winter.

Do I have to actually get on the phone to make this happen? I hate the phone, I'm on it all day.


you should be able to find 16's for the 2011 WRX but not the STi variant on our website

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Old 10-30-2010, 02:23 PM   #1253
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So is tirerack going to put the 16" package options for the 2011 wrx/sti?
Only the 17" wheel options are available and when shopping with 2011 wrx selected I can't look at cheap 16" rims.

I don't want to run 17 for the winter.

Do I have to actually get on the phone to make this happen? I hate the phone, I'm on it all day.
QFT if it is not updated in next day or 2 I will have to make the call also.
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Old 10-30-2010, 08:01 PM   #1254
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Hoping to get some advice on winter tire selection.

2005 RS wagon. Tirerack suggests 195/65/R15, but which tires are best?

I'm in Vancouver, BC and most of my driving is in town, but I'll head to Whistler once a month, and the local mountains a couple of times. Any suggestions?


in Vancouver I think the Winter Sport 3D would be a fantastic choice

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Old 10-30-2010, 10:15 PM   #1255
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So is tirerack going to put the 16" package options for the 2011 wrx/sti?
Only the 17" wheel options are available and when shopping with 2011 wrx selected I can't look at cheap 16" rims.

I don't want to run 17 for the winter.

Do I have to actually get on the phone to make this happen? I hate the phone, I'm on it all day.
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QFT if it is not updated in next day or 2 I will have to make the call also.
My bad -- I didn't notice that you had a 2011... in that case, I'm not sure. Sorry for the incorrect first reply; I'd give them a call if no one (Luke) steps in here to verify.


looking again the 16's are not showing up ... having it corrected now .... should be back soon

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Old 10-31-2010, 03:33 PM   #1256
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I have just installed my winter tires, Continental Extreme winter contact on a set of alloys from Tire Rack (2011 WRX). Torqued them up and did a quick drive round the block to make sure everything is good. After a couple of miles the TPMS light flashed for a while then stayed on. In the manual it says that this is because there is no sensor in the new wheels and therefore it throws up the light.

Do I need to get sensors fitted (if they can be fitted)?

Just wanted to bounce this one off you guys.

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the light will stay on if you do not have the sensors ... it comes down to purchse new sensors or look at the light

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Old 10-31-2010, 11:14 PM   #1257
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So is tirerack going to put the 16" package options for the 2011 wrx/sti?
Only the 17" wheel options are available and when shopping with 2011 wrx selected I can't look at cheap 16" rims.

I don't want to run 17 for the winter.

Do I have to actually get on the phone to make this happen? I hate the phone, I'm on it all day.
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QFT if it is not updated in next day or 2 I will have to make the call also.
Saw this thread with photos and a quote:

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I emailed Tire Rack, and they said their 16" steel rims will fit the 2011. Those are a 16x6.5 rim, so I would assume as long as you go at least that size, you're fine. Also, someone on this forum did a fitment test with the 2002 WRX 16" stockers and those fit as well.
from http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...2079204&page=2
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Old 11-01-2010, 12:24 AM   #1258
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I have just installed my winter tires, Continental Extreme winter contact on a set of alloys from Tire Rack (2011 WRX). Torqued them up and did a quick drive round the block to make sure everything is good. After a couple of miles the TPMS light flashed for a while then stayed on. In the manual it says that this is because there is no sensor in the new wheels and therefore it throws up the light.

Do I need to get sensors fitted (if they can be fitted)?

Just wanted to bounce this one off you guys.

Thanks,

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You only need the tpms if the light is annoying to you, there is no real reason you need them, just only if you want the light to turn off.
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Old 11-01-2010, 07:56 AM   #1259
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No way are you going to get 15" wheels to fit over those brakes:


16" barely fit.
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Old 11-01-2010, 09:23 AM   #1260
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15's is doable.... but you'll have a hard time in finding proper wheels that will clear the front brakes.

i almost kept my 15x7 team dynamic pro race wheels 45mm offset but got good $$ for them and paid for 16" setup.

a few wheels that will fit are rally wheels like compomotive th3, team dynamics pro race 1, etc.... but they're not cheap.
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Old 11-01-2010, 10:14 AM   #1261
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15's is doable.... but you'll have a hard time in finding proper wheels that will clear the front brakes.

i almost kept my 15x7 team dynamic pro race wheels 45mm offset but got good $$ for them and paid for 16" setup.

a few wheels that will fit are rally wheels like compomotive th3, team dynamics pro race 1, etc.... but they're not cheap.
That's correct. For Subaru's media day, they used 15" Rally Wheels:





My point was, most off the shelf 15" wheels would not clear the brakes. However if you spend enough, you can find wheels that small.
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Old 11-01-2010, 10:23 AM   #1262
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hooray for 15's !!

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Old 11-01-2010, 10:59 AM   #1263
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My point was, most off the shelf 15" wheels would not clear the brakes. However if you spend enough, you can find wheels that small.
indeed... 15" on any wrx of any year (2002+) isn't easy.
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Old 11-01-2010, 03:43 PM   #1264
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2011 WRX Winter Wheel/Tire Info:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2066834

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I called Luke @ TireRack and he confirmed that 16" steelies will fit on the 2011 WRX.

The proper size tire is 215/55R16.

In order to get these things into your cart:
  • Click this link: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=508175
  • Select your car as the 2010 Subaru WRX
  • Choose the 16" Winter package (205/55R16 size)
  • Add 16" wheels and any type of 205/55R16 tires to your cart
  • Choose to shop for tires by size
  • Choose size 215/55R16
  • Chose whatever tires you want and add them to the cart
  • Remove the 205/55R16 tires from you cart
Then you should be left with 4 tires (215/55R16) and 4 wheels (16") in your cart. Place your order!
good post and this will work for the time being and rest assured that we are working on getting the website fixed ....

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Old 11-01-2010, 06:19 PM   #1265
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Well that sucks. I just spent way more than I needed getting a 17" setup because that is all they have on the website for the 11.

The tires already showed up so I don't feel like trying to return/exchange them with all the lost shipping I would have. Why don't they have something clearly listing this???

My setup should be OK, but I could have saved some serious money on a smaller setup and had better ride with more sidewall. I guess it's my own fault for not calling instead of using just the website

if you need this fixed call me directly

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Old 11-01-2010, 06:45 PM   #1266
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Well that sucks. I just spent way more than I needed getting a 17" setup because that is all they have on the website for the 11.

The tires already showed up so I don't feel like trying to return/exchange them with all the lost shipping I would have. Why don't they have something clearly listing this???

My setup should be OK, but I could have saved some serious money on a smaller setup and had better ride with more sidewall. I guess it's my own fault for not calling instead of using just the website
I called and asked the same thing. He said that until they get a car in the shop and actually test fit wheels to it, they will not list it on the site, even though the sizes are compatible.
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Old 11-01-2010, 08:12 PM   #1267
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I'm not Luke, but it depends on how often you'll be going to the mountains, how long you're there, and how much into the backcountry you'll be wandering. Seattle itself won't really require studless snow and ice; something like Pilot Alpin PA3s will cut it there. But if you're making weekend trips into the white stuff and it's always been a little hit or miss with whether roads are plowed, you may need to sacrifice some performance around town to get you the snow traction you want when skiing.
Thanks Tigerotor77W

Its my wifes car and its been fine with the current all season its had for the winters in portland. Hell this last winter I was driving it after getting it serviced on the one horrid day whlie watching all the cars crash or get abaondoned and I drive it home fine (though I learned to winter drive in Mass). On my RS I have a set of Toyo Observer as I have to commute to work on those few icy days which portland gets. For the weekend mountain trips, I am more conserned about ice then snow as they keep it fairly well plowed. currently I was either looking at a set of Conti's or Blizzak. I need to do more research and get some more recommendations for this ski season.

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Old 11-01-2010, 09:50 PM   #1268
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year: 2011
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model: STI Hatch
location: West Michigan (100+ inches seasonal snow)
tires only or winter package: Tires Only

Looking for stock size snow recommendations. I'm not thinking I need studless...

Michelin Pilot Alpin PA3 or Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D or Bridgestone Blizzak LM-60

and why?

Looking to mount them to a 18x8.5

Thank you for the help!!


Western Michigan would make me choose the LM60 for the snow traction but they are all good

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Old 11-01-2010, 09:54 PM   #1269
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Thanks Tigerotor77W

Its my wifes car and its been fine with the current all season its had for the winters in portland. Hell this last winter I was driving it after getting it serviced on the one horrid day whlie watching all the cars crash or get abaondoned and I drive it home fine (though I learned to winter drive in Mass). On my RS I have a set of Toyo Observer as I have to commute to work on those few icy days which portland gets. For the weekend mountain trips, I am more conserned about ice then snow as they keep it fairly well plowed. currently I was either looking at a set of Conti's or Blizzak. I need to do more research and get some more recommendations for this ski season.

chris
In Portland myself. Same deal, really just need something that won't fall to pieces in the snow. Doesn't need to be a dedicated snow
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Old 11-02-2010, 12:06 AM   #1270
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Thank you so much ordered my set should be here by Friday.
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Old 11-02-2010, 12:09 AM   #1271
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Lets clarify things a bit. Seems there are a lot of 2011 owners that are looking for winter tires. Ive posted in at least 3 threads as to which tires fit which car. Having a separate thread should make it easier to find. I only selected tires that had 1% or lower difference in diameter from your OEM tire size.

If you have a 2011 WRX 4 or 5 door, these tires will fit:

1. 215/50/17 on a 7" or 7.5" wide rim.

2. 215/55/16 on 6.5" / 7" / 7.5" wide rim.

3. 195/60/16 on 6" or 6.5" wide rim.

NOTE! be sure that any 16" wheel you find fits on your car before purchase. If you do go this route, most 16" wheels will not work with any (future) larger brake upgrades.


If you have a 2011 STI 4 or 5 door, these tires will fit:

1. 225/50/17 on a 7"or 7.5" or 8" wide rim.

2. 205/55/17 on 7" or 7.5" wide rim.


NOTE! Be sure to get proper offset to clear Brembos. Usually it is around 48. Someone else clarify please?


sizes look good but even in the correct offset not all wheels are designed in such a way that they clear the Brembo's

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Old 11-02-2010, 01:35 AM   #1272
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Would appreciate your advice on a winter tire for me


year: 2011
make: Subaru
model: STI sedan
location: Vancouver, British Columbia
tires only or winter package: Tires only please.

I am in sales and travel around all of BC, so the weather ranges from mild in Vancouver to harsh winter conditions driving throught the mountains to Kelowna.

Could you please give me 2 options, the ideal tire choice and the runner up that will do a good job, but a little less expensive.

Thank you very much

Jason

wow .. .those are tough conditions for a tire to deal with but, I would lean towards the better ice and snow traction needed in the Mountains so, X-Ice XI2 or the Extreme Winter Contact

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Old 11-02-2010, 04:31 AM   #1273
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I come here again seeking your wisdom guys...sorry.

I finally chose to get the Dunlop WS 3D tire and was going to mount it on 2009 17x7 stockers in 225/45 size. However, looking at winter tires again and I recall thinner = better. That said, would it be "safe"/acceptable to run a 205/50 on 17x7 stockers instead? The only reason I ask is because 205/50 Dunlop WS 3Ds are $142ea versus the $188 for 225/45.

Excuse my...rather uneducated thought processes.

As for why I thought 225/45 for the tire? I thought the wheel was 7.5" wide after a few too many all-nighters.

@BigSexyJay: Considering you'd be traversing different locales and conditions I would opt for a studless ice/snow. You're giving up highway manners for better handling in the snow and ice you'll see in worse conditions. At least, that's what I'd think after reading through a few pages of this thread. That category of winter tire can be found here on the TireRack. Forgive me if the information is wrong, just trying to be helpful.

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Old 11-02-2010, 09:39 AM   #1274
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Would appreciate your advice on a winter tire for me


year: 2011
make: Subaru
model: STI sedan
location: Vancouver, British Columbia
tires only or winter package: Tires only please.

I am in sales and travel around all of BC, so the weather ranges from mild in Vancouver to harsh winter conditions driving throught the mountains to Kelowna.

Could you please give me 2 options, the ideal tire choice and the runner up that will do a good job, but a little less expensive.

Thank you very much

Jason
I think you may be the guy for studless ice and snow, just remember that you need to watch tread depth and if gets less than 6/32 (snow wear bars) you lose your snow/ice traction and may need to start looking for new tires.

How many miles do you drive in winter?

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Old 11-02-2010, 10:55 AM   #1275
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I'll be making the switch from standard mud/snow tires to performance winter tires. I understand that a performance winter tire sacrifices some snow/ice traction, but how noticeable is it? I do A LOT of driving (24k year) and am hesitant to sacrifice traction for performance but have always had inexpensice snow tires without an issue, which leads me to believe that a performance snow tire should be ok for me.


I need someone to tell me it'll all be ok.


you'll be 'ok' with a Performance winter like the Winter Sport 3D ... feel better now?

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