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Old 12-13-2011, 02:10 PM   #2551
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Hmm, good to know. So then getting 215 instead of 235 would somewhat affect speed too?
Yeah, the 215 would have a slightly shorter radius and therefor register a faster speed.
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Old 12-13-2011, 03:38 PM   #2552
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I have the same car, and according to Tirerack's literature, the lug nuts probably aren't compatible with the steel wheels. They might fit, they might not--and if they don't fit perfectly, you really don't want to use them anyway as they could damage the wheels. You may want to call Tirerack up and ask someone--they should have that information on hand, and, while you're on the phone, they could sell you compatible lugnuts should the OEM ones not fit.
Thanks for the reply. I went through the order process again without hitting submit, and found in small font print a link to "Tire hardware recommendations" and it mentioned if hardware was required, it would be supplied free of charge. Sure enough, I got home and dismantled the packaging from all of the tires and found a box of lugnuts. So the obvious answer has become obvious .
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Old 12-14-2011, 12:47 AM   #2553
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Would 225/45r17 be too wide for winter tires?

Anyone have real world experience with this tire size for a winter set? Impressions?

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Old 12-14-2011, 12:00 PM   #2554
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I have a 2011 wrx and find this quite overwhelming. Im lookin for a second set of wheels for winter tires. Is it cheaper to buy a used set of older model wrx wheels or to get Steelies from tire rack. Which model wrx wheels should I be looking for. Is there any issue with running a winter tire, only when it snows with out the tire pressure sensor? These are some of the questions I have
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:27 PM   #2555
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My step-daughter put a set of Sunny all-seasons on her Hyundai last month and she loves them. They look to be well-built and have a decent tread pattern for an all-season. She said they handle well on dry and wet. We haven't had any snow here so far, but they look like they will do fine for her needs. Can't comment on their snow tires, though. Looking at their website, the SN3860 looks VERY similar to the General Altimax Arctic tread pattern.
Thanks for the feedback. They get delivered this Friday and I'm pretty excited since I didn't get to drive my WRX at all last Winter. I went with the 205/50/17 size so we'll see how it goes.

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I have a 2011 wrx and find this quite overwhelming. Im lookin for a second set of wheels for winter tires. Is it cheaper to buy a used set of older model wrx wheels or to get Steelies from tire rack. Which model wrx wheels should I be looking for. Is there any issue with running a winter tire, only when it snows with out the tire pressure sensor? These are some of the questions I have
TireRack has winter wheel and tire combinations for your car starting at $600 + shipping, that's the route I would go. Without the tire pressure sensor, you will have the yellow light indicating "low tire pressure" on the dash when you're driving. As long as you're not bothered by the light, then there's no problem. I've driven the last 14,000 miles with my light on because I have aftermarket wheels and didn't bother to switch the TPMS over to them; I don't even notice it anymore. Then when Spring comes, switch back to your stock wheels and the light should go away (maybe Subaru would have to reset it or something).
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Old 12-14-2011, 06:37 PM   #2556
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Anyone care to comment on Pirelli P4 Four Seasons for an all-season? The OEM Bridgestones are finished (225/55/17, with 50k on the car I'm glad to see them go). I have a Jeep background, and am drawn to the Yokohama Geolandars (215/60), but the Pirellis at OEM size look like they might handle ski trips better while being more competent on the road the rest of the year. I can occasionally get work to send me out on mud/dirt/gravel roads/trails (land surveying) so the Geos might be handy there. I'm not buying winter/snow tires in Maryland, but don't want to regret my tires if we get a good winter again.
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Old 12-15-2011, 02:16 AM   #2557
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Curious, are winter tires supposed to make a lot more noise? I know they're so much softer, especially compared to my sport tires. I just keep getting paranoid every time I hear whining noises.
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Old 12-15-2011, 11:24 AM   #2558
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Winter tires are usually louder than summer or all seasons. What tires do you have?

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Old 12-15-2011, 11:35 AM   #2559
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Blizzak ws70.
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Old 12-15-2011, 12:18 PM   #2560
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i have the same tires and yes they are loud... especially once you have had them for a season
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Old 12-15-2011, 12:21 PM   #2561
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Awesome. Good to know. Thanks guys.
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Old 12-15-2011, 12:51 PM   #2562
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i have the same tires and yes they are loud... especially once you have had them for a season
Since this is what you're running, are they pretty good in the snow or ice? I haven't heard much reviews from one Subie to another.
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Old 12-15-2011, 01:29 PM   #2563
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Since this is what you're running, are they pretty good in the snow or ice? I haven't heard much reviews from one Subie to another.
I have these as well, you'll swear you have studs...
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Old 12-15-2011, 01:35 PM   #2564
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I'm in the process of getting a winter setup for my 12 WRX.

I just bought a set of 225/45/17 snow tires, and to my understanding, they'll fit on the stock 2012 17x8 rims... not ideal, but they'll fit. Does anybody have a picture of this? Will they look goofy with the smaller profile (vs. 235/45)?

My next option is getting a set of winter rims so I don't have to mount/dismount tires 2x a year. Would 17x7.5 look tucked on the widebody 2012? Will a 3 or 5mm spacer fix this, and will that put any undue wear on the wheel bearings/etc?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 12-15-2011, 02:25 PM   #2565
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I'm in the process of getting a winter setup for my 12 WRX.

I just bought a set of 225/45/17 snow tires, and to my understanding, they'll fit on the stock 2012 17x8 rims... not ideal, but they'll fit. Does anybody have a picture of this? Will they look goofy with the smaller profile (vs. 235/45)?

My next option is getting a set of winter rims so I don't have to mount/dismount tires 2x a year. Would 17x7.5 look tucked on the widebody 2012? Will a 3 or 5mm spacer fix this, and will that put any undue wear on the wheel bearings/etc?

Thanks in advance.
I think, if you took another set of OEM WRX wheels, for example, from 2009-10 WRX, they would look pretty much the same location as stock on 2011. My reasoning here is that they are simililarly shaped and have the same offset (+55). And being a 17x7, they go great with 225-45-17 Blizzaks (my old setup on 2010 WRX).

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Old 12-18-2011, 03:50 PM   #2566
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Would 225/45r17 be too wide for winter tires?

Anyone have real world experience with this tire size for a winter set? Impressions?

Thanks
Back in 2006 one of the Scandinavian magazines (Vi Bilagare) did a test of 205/55-16 vs 225/45-17 tires (Nokian Hakka RSi). The only large performance differences observed were in acceleration on ice, and braking on snow. In both cases, the 225 mm tire was the worst performer.

In all the other performance tests, the 225 was slightly better, or slightly worse, than the 205
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:58 PM   #2567
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Yeah 225/45R17 is fine. I'm running 235/45R17 Conti EWC to more closely match the OE / spare diameter of my 2010 STI. (215/50R17 would be ideal for me but the selection in that size is extremely limited.) Would a little thinner be better in the snow and ice? Probably, but EWC's on an STI is so good as is that it really doesn't matter.
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:13 AM   #2568
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Been doing a lot of research between the Dunlop Wintersports, Blizzaks, and Hankook i*cept Evo Snow Tires. My stock tire size is 215/45/17, but if I were to go with the Dunlops, I would have to go with 225/45/17. I do drive to the Poconos frequently for snowboarding, but most of my driving will be on main roads and highway.
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Old 12-19-2011, 12:22 PM   #2569
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Since this is what you're running, are they pretty good in the snow or ice? I haven't heard much reviews from one Subie to another.
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I have these as well, you'll swear you have studs...
I was blown away...My first four 3 hour drive through a blizzard confirmed that they handle very well in deep snow. It is really funny to see other people driving 25mph and sliding around while you can zip by at speed in complete control (or at least thats how i felt). I also want to make sure people know it was my first set of snow tires though so coming from all season tires there is no comparison.

As for dry/wet conditions... they obviously fail in comparison but thats not what i bought them for. I decided it was worth the sacrifice to loose the performance in those conditions for the ability to get to the mountains (i ski a lot)

..oh an boy they are loud when its wet
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Old 12-19-2011, 03:08 PM   #2570
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looking for some input.

I found some scion rims that look like they'll fit my 2011 wrx hatch. they are 16x6, 5x100 with a 39.5 offset. I was thinking either general altimax, conti EWC, or blizzak ws70's in a 205/60. The other thing is that the tires will only be thrown on when traveling to the snow, but they will mostly see dry roads, so i'd like something that possible has longer thread life. either of those tires better than the other for me, or any other recommendations?

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Old 12-19-2011, 05:53 PM   #2571
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Big thanks to Luke at TireRack. I called him today and asked for recommended tires for my area - Parkersburg, West Virginia, and for my car, a 2011 STI Limited.

We came up with 235/45R-17 Bridgestone Blizzak LM-60 XL tires with the 17x8 MSW Type 14 Silver wheels so I don't jack up my alloys.

Also went ahead and paid for the TPMS sensors since I am a TPMS state.

He couldn't have made it easier.



good talking with you earlier ... we'll get things put together and shipped out ASAP

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Old 12-19-2011, 08:19 PM   #2572
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Fit check if you guys would:

Wheels: 17x7.5 +48, 5x100
Tires: 225/45R17

2012 WRX.. will everything fit?
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Old 12-21-2011, 10:00 PM   #2573
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Looking to get a set of winter tires for my '12 WRX, I already have 16" steelies from our old toyota matrix. The problem comes to picking the tires. Heres the deal: I live in southern california where it never snows. Just get a few good rain storms in the winter, but I snowboard a lot, usually Mammoth, which is 300 miles away. With little to no snow for about a solid 260 miles of that. Or occasionally big bear which has windy roads and can be dumping snow randomly. for the last 15 miles of the 60-70 mile trip.

I was considering getting the General Altimax Arctic (was also recommended to check out Nokian by my neighbor) in the 205/55/16 size but was not sure on the wear if driving them on dry pavement for 520 miles out of the 600 miles round trip I will be driving. Granted they would only be on when I go boarding, which is about 15-20 times a year. With this would I be better off with something like the DWS? I know people say all seasons are no seasons but most of the driving will be on dry/wet pavement.

Thanks in advanced.
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Old 12-21-2011, 11:29 PM   #2574
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You drive almost 12k miles/year to board?
Damn! I live about 30 miles away
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Old 12-22-2011, 12:18 AM   #2575
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Gotta do what ya gotta do! maybe like 10x to Mammoth and about 10x to the closer resorts (usually filled with donkeys and the roads usually suck)
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