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Old 12-02-2008, 03:02 AM   #301
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Drive about 40miles not plowed very good back roads to get to highway or turnpike. Then drive about 50 to 75 miles highway. I average about 100miles a day round trip through bottom end of snow belt. What would you recommend. I can go either way. Tire and rims 16in or 17in or should I just swap out summer tires with winter tires on factory rim? If I do go with 16in tire and rim package any issue with a smaller tire on car?
Being from the same location, I'll give it a shot. I got the Blizzak LM25's under Luke's advice, and I love them thus far, I cannot be happier with their performance. They do a pretty good job of clearing the roads in my area though, so you may be better served with a snow and ice model like the LM60's while giving up some of the dry road performance if you said they don't do a good job servicing your roads.

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Old 12-02-2008, 10:14 AM   #302
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Most of my driving is in-town on cleared roads and within a couple miles, but I go out to Colorado a couple times during the ski season (~2000 mile round trip) and need something that can handle the tough winter driving conditions in the mountains and steep grades on packed snow/ice. Was looking at Blizzak WS-60 or LM-25. Need a recommendation on whether to go with 16" or 15" also.

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the LM25 will deal with the road trips much better so, I would go with them with that said you will need to go with 16's to get the LM25

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Old 12-02-2008, 11:19 AM   #303
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^^Go with 15 if possible. 16 is OK though.
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Old 12-02-2008, 11:37 AM   #304
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thanks luke. i got my tires the very next day after ordering them, super quick and a great price. had them shipped to a local installer and were on my car that day.
worked great in the snow and not bad on dry pavement.
(sorry, no snow pics, but these were on my way to the snow )
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:29 PM   #305
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I travel 100 miles round trip on secondary roads to work (50MPH posted speed). Typically we get ice, slush and a hand full snow events of about 5-8".

These will be Dec-April tires. I have a 2nd set of summer tires.

I have about 120k on the car and don't know how long I'll keep it (1-2 years) so while I do want a safe, quiet performing tire I don't want to break the bank on them.

thanks in advance.
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Old 12-02-2008, 02:23 PM   #306
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Most of my driving is in-town on cleared roads and within a couple miles, but I go out to Colorado a couple times during the ski season (~2000 mile round trip) and need something that can handle the tough winter driving conditions in the mountains and steep grades on packed snow/ice. Was looking at Blizzak WS-60 or LM-25. Need a recommendation on whether to go with 16" or 15" also.

Thanks,
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Could I also get a recommendation on good all-season tires that would fit my stock rims? The tires that come on them (Bridgestone Potenza RE92) are horrible.


I like the RE960 Pole Position and the Eagle F1 A/S

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Old 12-02-2008, 10:46 PM   #307
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Drive about 40miles not plowed very good back roads to get to highway or turnpike. Then drive about 50 to 75 miles highway. I average about 100miles a day round trip through bottom end of snow belt. What would you recommend. I can go either way. Tire and rims 16in or 17in or should I just swap out summer tires with winter tires on factory rim? If I do go with 16in tire and rim package any issue with a smaller tire on car?


16's would be my choice and I would go with a 205/55-16 X-Ice XI2 from Michelin .... lake effect would be a welcomed sight with that setup
I was kinda leaning towards the Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D on 16's only due to how many miles I drive a day. Once I get on the Turnpike it usually is pretty clear. Do you think the x-ice x12 would last the miles that I will put on in the winter?
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Old 12-03-2008, 11:53 AM   #308
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Is 235/50/18 too tall a tire on 8.5" wide rims (2008 STI)?
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27.3" = too tall
Luke,
would 235/45/18 at 26.3" be too tall? trying to use the stock rims for winter. also 08 STi

If they would fit, realistically how much of a snow performance hit would this size be over a 235/45/17, if any? Gotta make a decision SOON

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ideally you want to be no taller than 25.7" but, I do know of a couple people running the 225/45-18 which is 26.0" tall. I would not go any taller than that and I can not even guarantee that size on all '08's as there are typically minor variations between cars even of the same model

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Old 12-03-2008, 12:12 PM   #309
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no winter tire better than nokians .

the ones i rock are $1000 for a set. its just money , when your dead in a ditch you'll wished you weren't so cheap.

i run hakapelita 4 studded nokians . i wanna get the 5's so bad they are supposed to be better in slush which the 4's are not so good with.

be safe everyone.


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Old 12-03-2008, 12:13 PM   #310
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Just thought id chime in on my new ones. Just got Altimax Arctics and must say... wow. Had some good all seasons before but a couple were getting bad and the first storm it slid easy, and didnt grip "great" (like it should). Now its amazing i had a blast the first fall, felt like on dry pavement almost. Got the hook up from Matt at Don Miller so go see him if your in the Madison area. Great price, Great product.
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Old 12-03-2008, 12:58 PM   #311
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location: Madison, WI

I put less than 4k a year on my WRX and I have the luxury of almost never having to take it out of the garage during winter. So I've managed the past 4 years with just a set of Goodyear Eagle F1 GDS3s on it. (Awesome summer-only tires BTW.)

However last year's winter storms in Madison were unreal and the excitement generated here (along with the fact that I haven't spent any real money on the car in almost a year now) prompted me to order a tire & wheel package yesterday (Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D on the Sport Edition F9 wheels). Now I'll have to take it out a couple of times just to see how they do. If they're half as good as people are saying, I'll probably order a set for our minivan as well.

P.S. It's a sad day when the only thing left I could think of to "mod" on the WRX was to get a set of snow tires for it. This thread should be banned (j/k - thanks Luke )


order number? ==> 7114437

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Old 12-03-2008, 01:50 PM   #312
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Luke, just curious, what is the hot ticket ice racing tire this season (non-studded)?


WS60 and X-Ice XI2

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Old 12-03-2008, 03:01 PM   #313
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year: 2007
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model: WRX sedan
location: Watertown, MA (10 min outside Boston)
tires only or winter package: Tires only

I have stock rims and the car is lowered 1" in the front and 3/4" in the rear. I'm looking for something that will also provide decent dry traction since in MA we can have long periods of dry between snow, or of course, we could just get dumped on week after week You just never know.

I would run the X-ice XI2 in the 215/45-17 if it was my call to make

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Old 12-03-2008, 05:47 PM   #314
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Bacon: Dunlop 3Ds are ideal for eastern MA IMO. Speaking of which, mine came today. My only (minor) complaint is that they were made in late 2007 which means they are already a year old. Not unusual though I guess.


not uncommon and not really an issue as Dunlop does store tires correctly

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Old 12-03-2008, 11:19 PM   #315
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Luke,
Thanks for your input. I ended up going with the Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D on 16's, just to many great reviews for that tire. I will see on next winter on the X-Ice XI2 if I am not happy with the dunlop's.

Order Number 7123990

don't forget to hit the review after you log some miles

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Old 12-04-2008, 12:57 AM   #316
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Luke,

I noticed the Dunlop Winter sport 3d's are on "closeout" special on tire rack.....are they being discontinued??

I've ran these last year and very happy, I'm driving alot of miles for work and don't think they are going to last through the whole winter season. And will probably order another set soon.

not discontinued but when we run out they are gone until next winter

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Old 12-04-2008, 09:12 AM   #317
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^^I asked the same thing. The tire is not being discontinued but JB at Tire Rack said they will not be getting any more this year after stock on hand is gone.
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Old 12-04-2008, 09:23 AM   #318
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225-45-17 All season

Well i needed tires anyway so i went with the new BFG Gforce Super Sport A/S
this tire rocks 400 treadwear, AA traction, A temp

and a killer tread pattern. there even rated for light snow..and in a subaru that means med. to heavy right LOL

Nice an quite even a high speeds.. but who could hear tires over the mirrors howling

dry grip feels great I can now find limitations of the car not the tires

Ill do a wet and snow update later when i find some

MR tire price installed was 151.00 a tire. (sucks because i used to install and sell tires)

but no more connections for good deals lol
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Old 12-04-2008, 11:45 AM   #319
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I have stock rims and the car is lowered 1" in the front and 3/4" in the rear. I'm looking for something that will also provide decent dry traction since in MA we can have long periods of dry between snow, or of course, we could just get dumped on week after week You just never know.
Thanks for the input Mike, but after speaking to Luke I decided to go with the Michellin X-ICE Xi2.
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Old 12-04-2008, 03:36 PM   #320
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Quick question Luke,

When I go for tire choices it gives me the alternate (235/40/18). Is that guaranteed to fit in my wells? Or is it safe keeping to just go for 245/40/18. Looks to be a better deal on my wallet to go for the 235/40 tires.


235/40-18 will work fine. it is a little narrower and a little shorter than the 245 but, not so much it causes problems.

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Old 12-04-2008, 04:54 PM   #321
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tires only or winter package: tires only (235/40/18)

Last winter I had a set of the Dunlop Winter Sport 3D and thought they were great. Just for general around town driving or to the airport so needs to be good for highway speeds occasionally too. I dont plan on driving up to the mountains and we dont get too much snow here. Price is of concern too. I am stuck with that size tire because of the fit and my rims (18x9).
Thank you

225/40-18 will fit a 9" wheel but it does look rather narrow I would probalby go with the 235/40 myself if you are forced to run the 18x9's

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Old 12-04-2008, 06:46 PM   #322
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found my answer-

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Old 12-04-2008, 10:12 PM   #323
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winter package 225/60R16 stock Bridgestone’s

I have one of Subaru’s orphan that they abandon the Turbo Baja. I am looking for some winter tires. I would like to get some studded ones. I like the reviews of the General Altimax Arctic. I do not need to drive the truck to work (only 24,000 total miles so far) but I want something that can be driven in the worst condition. (Wet ice) My big question is what size would be best the 215/65R16 or can I down size to a 15” If I order another set of summer tires do you get a break on shipping?

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Old 12-05-2008, 09:47 AM   #324
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I travel 100 miles round trip on secondary roads to work (50MPH posted speed). Typically we get ice, slush and a hand full snow events of about 5-8".

These will be Dec-April tires. I have a 2nd set of summer tires.

I have about 120k on the car and don't know how long I'll keep it (1-2 years) so while I do want a safe, quiet performing tire I don't want to break the bank on them.

thanks in advance.
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Old 12-05-2008, 01:12 PM   #325
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Hey Luke,

Just wanted to say thanks - I'm the "Lee" you talked to (2005 Legacy and WRX sedans) this afternoon, and just purchased a set of 215/50/17 Michelin Xi2s, and chatted for a second about your last name/relatives in Cleveland.

I used the NASIOC link, and entered your name, as well as a description of the rims I'm mounting to 17x7 stockers for the '05 Legacy GT, which I will then cross-fit to my wife's WRX.

Thanks again for your help, and the cheerful call. This is my second set from TireRack, and I'm sure I'll be back, both to the TR as well as to you, for more.

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Oh, and yeah, I'd have gotten 205, instead, but your Closeout deals two weeks ago, when I didn't yet have the cash, really closed-out that particular sizing, for the Xi-2s!

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