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Old 11-20-2012, 08:01 AM   #3226
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i checked and the WS60's dont have anything high at all
WS60 is not LM60.
These Blizzaks are two differrent animals.

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I took a chance and bought the Falken Eurowinter HS449 in 215/55R16. I haven't seen reviews for this one as it is brand new. I was going to go for the Altimax Arctics but decided to sacrifice the snow/ice performance for better dry performance.

I'll update with some impressions once I get it mounted and go through some weather.
I think I saw Eurowinter tets somewhere.

http://www.testberichte.de/p/falken-...stbericht.html

Try with google translate. It should link to sources in German.

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Old 11-20-2012, 04:15 PM   #3227
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I took a chance and bought the Falken Eurowinter HS449 in 215/55R16. I haven't seen reviews for this one as it is brand new. ..........
I saw a test/review of it today. It received an overall rating of "fair".

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article...-Tyre-Test.htm
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:40 PM   #3228
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thanks for the heads up!
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:12 PM   #3229
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Would Sport Edition F12 15" rims fit over 06 WRX 4-pot brakes?

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...2565401004722S
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Old 11-22-2012, 10:45 AM   #3230
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Would Sport Edition F12 15" rims fit over 06 WRX 4-pot brakes?

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...2565401004722S
Highly doubt it. The only 15" wheels that fit are usually rally specific wheels like Team Dynamics Pro Rally 1, or a gravel wheel by Braid.
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:13 PM   #3231
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I saw a test/review of it today. It received an overall rating of "fair".

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article...-Tyre-Test.htm
Yikes, I was hoping to see better. Oh well, at least they are much better than using my stock summers during the winter.
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Old 11-22-2012, 07:27 PM   #3232
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Highly doubt it. The only 15" wheels that fit are usually rally specific wheels like Team Dynamics Pro Rally 1, or a gravel wheel by Braid.
Thanks, I'll look for 16's.
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Old 11-23-2012, 04:34 PM   #3233
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Would performance winter tires get better mileage overall than true ice/snow tires (non-studded) since they have a less aggressive tread?
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Old 11-23-2012, 04:53 PM   #3234
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Would performance winter tires get better mileage overall than true ice/snow tires (non-studded) since they have a less aggressive tread?
Yes, in general they usually wear slower and made of a harder compound than an ice/snow tire.
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Old 11-23-2012, 06:15 PM   #3235
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Would performance winter tires get better mileage overall than true ice/snow tires (non-studded) since they have a less aggressive tread?
If you look at the last 4 years of winter tire testing from CR, you can see some exceptions to that correlation. Some ice/snow tires (e.g. HakkaR, XIce Xi3) and studded tires (e.g. Hakka5) have lower rolling resistance than some performance winters and many all season tires. Other ice/snow tires, like the Altimax Arctic and Conti EWC, have higher rolling resistance than some performance winters or all season tires. So there is more to rolling resistance than meets the eye.
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Old 11-23-2012, 07:49 PM   #3236
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If you look at the last 4 years of winter tire testing from CR, you can see some exceptions to that correlation. Some ice/snow tires (e.g. HakkaR, XIce Xi3) and studded tires (e.g. Hakka5) have lower rolling resistance than some performance winters and many all season tires. Other ice/snow tires, like the Altimax Arctic and Conti EWC, have higher rolling resistance than some performance winters or all season tires. So there is more to rolling resistance than meets the eye.
I feel like I'm back in Dynamics class...ha. I'll call Tire Rack tomorrow and see what they say before placing an order.
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Old 11-24-2012, 08:24 AM   #3237
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If you look at the last 4 years of winter tire testing from CR, you can see some exceptions to that correlation. Some ice/snow tires (e.g. HakkaR, XIce Xi3) and studded tires (e.g. Hakka5) have lower rolling resistance than some performance winters and many all season tires. Other ice/snow tires, like the Altimax Arctic and Conti EWC, have higher rolling resistance than some performance winters or all season tires. So there is more to rolling resistance than meets the eye.

Very interesting. Considering Xice Xi3's more strongly now.
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:36 PM   #3238
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Got my winter set up.
I bought a set of cheap rims from discount tire on ebay for $275 after rebate and dunlops from tire rack on ebay for $490 after rebate.
Wheels are 16x7 with a +38mm offset.
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Old 11-25-2012, 12:46 PM   #3239
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My winter setup is complete.

Suspension:
King lift springs (1.5" lift)
Koni Sport (yellow) dampers

Wheels/Tires:
15x7" Team Dynamics Pro Rally 1
215/65/15 General Altimax Arctic

I know the tires are "too tall". I did it on purpose to give me more ground clearance and fill up the wheel well a bit better. Plus I got a bit more sidewall out of it. The setup is definitely more floaty than the 245/40/17 on 17x9 with my summer setup. But it should handle the winter wonderfully.

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The car is parked on a sideways hill. So the front looks a little higher than it really is. But you can see the tire size better in this pic.



Front brake 4-pot clearance.



Rear suspension clearance.

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Old 11-25-2012, 05:45 PM   #3240
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Got a new one that I can't quite find the answer to (mainly because I don't have my car here to take measurements).

This fall/winter I'm looking to ditch my puny 205/60/15 Winterforces for 215/75/15 General AT2s. I'll be sipeing, etc blah blah, but on to the interesting part:

To my knowledge I will have enough strut clearance (lifted 3" with SG forester struts), but I'm trying to figure out if its possible that I will clear the fore/aft of the fenders. I know foresters can do it.. but a 2002 WRX? I don't know if there is any disparity between the physical width of the wheel arches. I assume they will since a 27" width DOES clear.

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the problem is mostly the rear. You'll need to remove the sideskirts and the rear end "cap" underneath them. You'll definitely have vertical clearance with the spring perch if you are using forester struts.

I'm running a similar size (225/70/15), with a hair shorter OD. I had to use spacers in the rear to clear the struts with 15x7 +43 Braid TA Safaris.
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I actually haven't put the stock skirts back on since I removed my summer gear, so that's a plus. It "looks" like they'll fit based on pictures I've poured over. I'd really rather not go smaller if possible so I can do some rock crawling on the wussy NE jeep trails around here.

I guess I'll just loose the rear bumper for the season too if I have to
So just to answer this question for posterity, apparently 215/75/15 does not fit in the rear, sideskirts removed. Anyway, this is what the tire tech told me after mounting. He basically explained to me something about the 215 will not fit and 205 would (duh, the OD being much less), but I just have a hard time believing that a 27.4 which sc00by has fit is SO close to the fender arch that a .1" change in radius makes this impossible.

Specification..Sidewall..Radius..Diameter..Circumf erence..Difference
205/60-15.........4.8in..12.3in....24.7in.........77.6in. ...............0.0% <---current
215/75-15.........6.3in..13.8in....27.7in........87.0in...............12.2%
225/70-15.........6.2in..13.7in....27.4in........86.1in...............11.0%
205/75-15.........6.1in..13.6in....27.1in.........85.2in. ...............9.8%


FWIW tire was a Hankook RT03 M/T. Perhaps the actual OD on these is different than specified? (I know my Z1s for example measure wider than 245 even though they are sold as such)

I guess I'll be stepping down in sizes. Grr, less lift
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:01 PM   #3241
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PlasticFoam, do you have any pics of your setup?

Where did the tires not fit? On the strut? I fit 26" tires 215/65/15 on the stock struts.

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Old 11-25-2012, 06:04 PM   #3242
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225/45/17's would be fine on my 12 wrx right? stock is 235/45/17.

I know I will lose .2'' of sidewall and the speedo will be reading 1.4% too fast which isn't too much of a problem for me. (speedo reads 60mph i'll be traveling at 59.2)
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:06 PM   #3243
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^^ Presently, no. Just imagine the below lifted 5". It looks pretty silly right now . It seems like its going to be fairly hard to find an M/T tire in 205/75/15 (I'm now leaning more towards the absurd level and away from the A/T).



I really may try to get a second opinion on the 215/75 fitting... I just don't believe it doesn't fit in the rear. Unfortunately, they already dismounted the tire by the time they told me it was a no go
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:44 PM   #3244
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If you don't mind me asking, why so much lift? I'm all for absurdity lol. Just curious your reasoning. I don't think you'll see much difference in a slight downsize. Instead of the 205/75, why not a 215/70?
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:15 PM   #3245
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Lifted for fun

I'd like to hit some trails over the winter and into the spring before I lower the car again to attain the opposite level of stupid. I work one mile from my house and I hardly ever have to drive anywhere so I'm ok with losing the icy condition traction that would come with M/Ts.. now to find some that will fit
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:33 PM   #3246
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can snow tires sound like a "bar wheel bearing"-esque sound?
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:28 AM   #3247
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Are your tires studded?
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:36 AM   #3248
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When you go to switch back to a summer tire do you need to rotate? i have separate rims so theirs no mounting and balancing i just bolt on the summers. should i move the back passenger to the front passenger and same with drivers side or just put them where they were located before i took them off?
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:37 AM   #3249
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I mark wheels with their original position when I store them and then rotate them when installing.

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Old 11-26-2012, 02:17 PM   #3250
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Just spoke to Luke @ Tirerack and ordered a set of Blizzak WS70's 205/60/16's on some steel rims said they should be coming in Wed/Thursday. A little late on the purchase now that they are saying we might get some slush tomorrow in Jersey.
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