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Old 01-20-2013, 05:16 PM   #3426
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I have some 225/40/18 Granada all seasonal but want something with more grip and better control.
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Old 01-20-2013, 09:48 PM   #3427
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Are you sure you want to pay for 18" winter tires if 17" (with proper wheels) will work just fine?

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Old 01-20-2013, 10:02 PM   #3428
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Are you sure you want to pay for 18" winter tires if 17" (with proper wheels) will work just fine?

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Idk if that's too me but I already have 18's no need to spend more one other wheels also.

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Old 01-20-2013, 10:17 PM   #3429
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I'd go with a performance winter in that area. I and others are partial to the Dunlop WinterSport 3D.
Hmmm, didn't even think about the Dunlops. I'll check them out, as well. Thanks for the info!
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Old 01-21-2013, 12:55 AM   #3430
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Put on my new Winterforce 215/55-16s on steelies today. Tires, rims, TPMS sensors, mounted/balanced, and shipped for $867 from TireRack. Arrived the day after I ordered (distribution center was close). As expected, they're more 'squirrelly' at highway speeds than the factory Dunlops, but I'll get used to it. Quieter than I thought they'd be, though they may get louder as they wear.

It only took one terrifying trip in a minor snowstorm on those Dunlops to make me order these...

Of course, now that they're on, we probably won't get any more snow this season...

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Old 01-21-2013, 02:03 AM   #3431
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Idk if that's too me but I already have 18's no need to spend more one other wheels also.
On TireRack.com the cheapest set of 225/40/18 snow tires will run you $716. For a set of 16x6.5 steel wheels and snow tires to fit (205/55/16) it'll cost $596 ($232 being the steelies lol). No need to spend more on tires with a bigger hole in the middle. Not only are you saving $120 in cost, you don't have to pay to have tires switched over twice a year.

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Old 01-21-2013, 07:00 AM   #3432
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Idk if that's too me but I already have 18's no need to spend more one other wheels also.
What are you going to use in summer? Do you have summer tire/wheel combo or do you plan on swapping tires?

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Old 01-21-2013, 11:27 AM   #3433
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After doing a mountain cruise and kind of pushing the Dunlop wintersport 3D I love these tires. They are a fantastic performance winter and have a pretty stiff sidewall. You can tell when you push them to hard as they start to Chirp a little (way different noise then a summer tire) and you can feel the tires flex.

They have also done very well in the snow we have gotten.
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:46 AM   #3434
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What are you going to use in summer? Do you have summer tire/wheel combo or do you plan on swapping tires?

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Well these are my summer wheels ha sold my stock ones , which shouldn't of done. But I get where you guys are coming from ill probably purchase some cheap 17's or 16's to get some snow tires. That way I can just switch set ups instead of switching tires and costing me money to get them mounted/ un-mounted.

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Old 01-21-2013, 11:54 AM   #3435
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Sweet, looks like I am going for The ExtremeContacts!
Ive driven them in the snow this year in pa. Towards the end of their life and they do fine. Great tires. If you don't know how to drive in the snow then your better off with snows to be safe
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Old 01-21-2013, 12:39 PM   #3436
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Well these are my summer wheels ha sold my stock ones , which shouldn't of done. But I get where you guys are coming from ill probably purchase some cheap 17's or 16's to get some snow tires. That way I can just switch set ups instead of switching tires and costing me money to get them mounted/ un-mounted.
Good idea.
If you can survive with your current setup till spring then wait for new winter tires. Current selection is poor and there will be new models available for next winter (like Dunlop 4D).

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Old 01-21-2013, 01:14 PM   #3437
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Good idea.
If you can survive with your current setup till spring then wait for new winter tires. Current selection is poor and there will be new models available for next winter (like Dunlop 4D).

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Sweet thanks man!
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:43 PM   #3438
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Trying to figure out what to go with. My main driving is dry/wet but I live on some big hills and when it snows it is basically ice on steep, steep grades.

I also need to drive all over the state (OR), so at times I'll see the nasty, heavy, snow and ice.

I've got 970 a/s on my 17's, thought they would be enough, but not on the ice and certainly not in the nasty mountain roads.

leaning towards the general Arctic's (non studded), but wondering if I should be looking at the x ice or the conti extremewinter contacts?

Anyone have experience with 2 or more of those chime in on ice performance?

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Old 01-22-2013, 02:09 AM   #3439
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Get the X ice!
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Old 01-22-2013, 06:15 AM   #3440
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Xi3's are niiiice^
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Old 01-22-2013, 07:00 AM   #3441
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If ice is your main concern then studded winter tires (studable but without studs tires are probably not so good on ice as the studs are supposed to give them that) or studless winter tires are your choices.

I read some Russian tests (thanks google translate and I did not have much choice but to be tought Russian in Poland) and they claim that on really cold ice (0F -> -16C) the studs are worse than studless.
However on "warm" ice, closer to 32F -> 0C studs are better.

So...
Are studded tires legal in OR and whereever you may need to drive? Nokian Hakkapeliitta 7 are one of the best. This and you do not mind the noise.

Studless - Xi3 are supposedly very good.

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Old 01-22-2013, 07:39 AM   #3442
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I just got this car and it has summer tires on it. I need a quick/inexpensive wheel/tire combo and I'm not too worried about the look of the wheels. The steel wheels don't seem to be available on tirerack.com for this car?
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:10 AM   #3443
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Hmmm, didn't even think about the Dunlops. I'll check them out, as well. Thanks for the info!
I looked at the WinterSports, however not offered in my size. After speaking with a few tire guru's, they explained that with the weather I deal with, I need an ice/snow tire. It makes complete sense now. So, unstudded, the General Altimax Arctic and Firestone Winterforce aren't really up to what I need. I was told to look at the WS70 Blizzak or the Dunlop Graspic DS-3, as they are an ice/snow tire. Thoughts on either? I already sense a crowd for the WS70's, which is fine. Seeking input on both, as they are both priced relatively equally. Thanks!
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:35 PM   #3444
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Local Costco has the WS70 (205/55R16) for $135.99 or 215/55R16 for $139.99 with $70 off on either set of 4. Really considering it but not sure if I should go 205 or 215. 205 will put me 1mph faster on my speedo. Will 215/55 fits fine on those 05 rims that fitted with 205/55?
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:43 PM   #3445
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threw on blizzaks on steel wheels today....bring on the snow old bag....

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Old 01-23-2013, 03:45 AM   #3446
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Local Costco has the WS70 (205/55R16) for $135.99 or 215/55R16 for $139.99 with $70 off on either set of 4. Really considering it but not sure if I should go 205 or 215. 205 will put me 1mph faster on my speedo. Will 215/55 fits fine on those 05 rims that fitted with 205/55?
The 215/55 will fit the 2005 WRX stockers just fine.
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:46 PM   #3447
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If ice is your main concern then studded winter tires (studable but without studs tires are probably not so good on ice as the studs are supposed to give them that) or studless winter tires are your choices.

I read some Russian tests (thanks google translate and I did not have much choice but to be tought Russian in Poland) and they claim that on really cold ice (0F -> -16C) the studs are worse than studless.
However on "warm" ice, closer to 32F -> 0C studs are better.

So...
Are studded tires legal in OR and whereever you may need to drive? Nokian Hakkapeliitta 7 are one of the best. This and you do not mind the noise.

Studless - Xi3 are supposedly very good.

Krzys
Anyone with the xi3's comment on how the deep snow traction is?

It's a decent price jump between the Generals and the Xi3's and Nokian's, I'm in a tough spot since I need both a decent dry/wet tire, and one that can really handle the nasty mountain passes with who knows what kind of conditions.

OR does let you use studded from Nov to March, but I don't think I'll go with them because a lot of my driving is still dry/wet (in the pdx area), and the rest is all over the state.
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From what I've read, Xi3s arent that great in deep snow. Nor were Xi's back when I had them. The problem is that even a dedicated winter tire will be optimized a little bit for one condition at the expense of others - in between ice, cold ice, slush, wet snow, or deep powder.

As a thought though, I'd favour good ice traction for safety above anything else. In intense snowstorms here, deep snow traction helps a lot - but usualy in these conditions one drives slowly and so does everyone else, so you usualy risk a low-speed mini-skid, or a bumper kiss.

What makes my adrenaline explode are moments when quick temperature drops below 0F freeze the humidity on the road surface - and at 65mph on an otherwise dry, black road, you end up with literally invisible patches of black ice. This is when every 01% of additional traction can save you.

Then again, each region, road, and personal commute meet with individual winter conditions - so it comes to a personal choice.
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I think ground clerance of your car is limiting factor in deep snow.
Again dry snow will be better handled by some and wet snow will be handled probably by different - just because it is snow it does not mean that it is identical or even similar.

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Old 01-24-2013, 03:51 AM   #3450
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threw on blizzaks on steel wheels today....bring on the snow old bag....
Copycat!... (scroll up a few posts)

Looks like we might get to play in the snow on Friday...

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