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Old 12-05-2008, 02:21 PM   #326
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Hey Luke, I was wondering your suggestion on which tire to go with, not the size...so could you help me out on that? You guys dont sell the winter sport 3d anymore do you? should i go with the lm-22 or lm-25? thank you!


the Winter Sport 3D is still available in most sizes but not all. If your size is one that is already sold out and you have a choice between the LM22 and the LM25 go for the 25
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Old 12-06-2008, 02:09 PM   #327
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been looking at picking up a set of used WRX wheels and putting winterforces on them but wanted your feed back on what you thought would be the best set up for my criteria in your opinion

I know of many folks who is the Winterforce for rally/winter another good choice is the Pirelli Winter Carving

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Old 12-06-2008, 05:54 PM   #328
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Plan on putting on the tires on stock 17x7 wheels. Thinking about the dunlop wintersports m3 or blizzaks.

Driving is slightly more highway miles.

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for that area I like the versatility of the Dunlop 3D's

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Old 12-07-2008, 04:52 PM   #329
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Thanks for the help Luke! Got my tires 2 days after ordering them. Looking forward to testing them out in the mountains later this month!


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Old 12-07-2008, 09:30 PM   #330
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I just got my set of Michelin X-Ice snow tires for CHEAP!!!

I have to say, Tirerack may usually have really high prices, but sometimes you find a deal like this!

just curious why is it that every post you make regarding The Tire Rack insulting even when you get a good deal? Did we ever do anything to offend you? Just curious

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Old 12-08-2008, 10:42 AM   #331
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Just got my 3Ds put on the Benz and took it for a quick spin. Very smooth and quieter than the old Pirellis despite having much deeper tread.

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Old 12-08-2008, 01:33 PM   #332
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Can anyone offer feedback on Hercules Avalanche X-Tremes? An aquaintance runs them on his car and says they're great, but I can't find anything on them...no reviews, nothing. ..even feedback on Hercules tires (made by Cooper) is very welcome. Please PM!



I have never driven on them or even heard of them for that matter so, I have no opinion

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Old 12-08-2008, 02:43 PM   #333
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Need a nice snow/ice tire that can withstand driving on dry pavement as well and not wear like crazy. I don't need dry performance just something that will grip nice when conditions are bad and will last more than 1 winter season if I drive them on dry pavement. I commute 30+ miles a day too. I was thinking Blizzaks ws-60 or goodyear gw3 as both of those are in my price range. thanks.

I really think the Michelin X-Ice XI2 would be a good fit for you

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Old 12-08-2008, 10:44 PM   #334
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Would like to know if a Blizzak ws-50 in this size will fit on the stock 17" BBS rims without rubbing? Other thought is a ws-60 in a 215-50-17.

Thanks for the help.


215/55-17 at 26.3" tall will not fit. The 215/50-17 is 25.5" tall and is extremely close to rubbing but from what I have seen is does clear on most '05 STi's .... and as noted in the thread many times I love the WS60's and have them on my own car

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Old 12-08-2008, 11:29 PM   #335
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Thanks for the help last week Luke! I got the tires I ordered for my RDX the next day!

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Old 12-09-2008, 02:43 AM   #336
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tires only or winter package: winter package or just replace stock re92 with another all seasons. would like 225 size. Would like great steering response & handling and willing to sacrifice ride comfort. Planning on rear sway bar upgrade.
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Old 12-09-2008, 01:02 PM   #337
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Can OEM 15" steelies w/ spacers fit on an 02 WRX? Thanks!



The Tire Rack does not endorse the use of spacers

I coulda guessed that, but im not asking if you endorse them, im asking if they FIT.

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Old 12-09-2008, 04:51 PM   #338
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225/50/17 tires to mount on 17x8" '06 STI BBS wheels. Just looking for a recommendation out of the tires that are still in stock in this size.

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Continental Winter Contact TS810
Michelin X-Ice XI2
Michelin Pilot Alpin PA3

the PA3 would be my choice for your area unless you frequently travel into more severe weather areas in which case the XI2 would make more sense

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Old 12-09-2008, 10:46 PM   #339
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This may be the wrong thread for this,but here are my initial impressions of the WS60s I put on my 04 sti:

Bridgestone Blizzack WS60
225/45r17 on 7.5 inch wide Rota Tarmac 2 rims
Location: North Dakota (snow country)
Miles since install: ~500 (maybe more)

Dry Pavement: Not really good. You can feel the soft sidewalls flex quite readily. Although the compound is soft, these are not dry-pavement performance tires. Traction is not lacking, but the soft carcass makes for vague turn in and steering feedback. Plus, I know from experience if you push these tires on dry pavement during the summer, they will QUICKLY go away (I have run WS50s before and somebody ran WS50s in an autocross last summer - they did surprisingly well, but quickly "went away"). All in all, the dry pavement performance is decent, and the ride is actually quite good (and quiet). I'll have to see if it stays that way as they wear.

Snow performance: Really quite exceptional. Even better than the WS50s, which were exceptional in their own right. I have been driving almost exclusively in snow and slush since mounting the tires, and they have met my expectations. They actually seem to LIKE snow, especially dry snow, and the bite that they provide with 1-2 inches of snow is impressive. Slush is like it is not even there. I attribute the slush performance to the wide grooves that form channels to evacuate the wet slush from the tread area.

Ice performance: I have driven these on frozen rain slicked roads and on packed snow polished by traffic. Ice performance is very good. My initial impression was that the WS50s were a bit better on ice, but that may be due to the huge increase in performance that I witnessed when switching to the WS50s from all-seasons. I will be running these in a couple ice races this winter, so I will see how they fare.

In sum: If you have a dedicated set of rims for snow tires, and live in an area where you have to drive through slush, snow and ice, these are excellent tires. As usual, Luke steered me right with his advice - yet again!
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Old 12-10-2008, 01:03 PM   #340
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Can OEM 15" steelies w/ spacers fit on an 02 WRX? Thanks!



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I coulda guessed that, but im not asking if you endorse them, im asking if they FIT.
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Old 12-10-2008, 01:18 PM   #341
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I just moved to the Chicago area last year. I had an Elantra back then (I know, I know) and it was a horrible experience every day. Now my wife is 6 months pregnant and I really want snow tires for the brand new Forester to make things as safe as we possibly can. I drive 5 miles each way to the train station for half a week. The other half my wife drops me off so she can go grocery shopping or whatever she needs to do. The main roads are usually clean, but getting to the main roads is where most of the problem is, as well as parking lots. They will either be totally snowed in, or snow is packed where it's just ice bumps everywhere. This Tuesday morning everything was just blackice. On that 5 mile drive to the train station there were 9 SUV's, one 18 wheeler from side to side, and one Jeep Wrangler all in ditches. It was really bad as you had to drive at 5mph basically. We don't do a lot of long distance driving, maybe 30 miles on a weekend to a specific store about twice a month.

I was thinking about the Wintersport 3D's last week, but now I'm leaning more for the Michelin X-Ice's after this Tuesday but I was wondering how they perform when the roads are dry in between storms, and will I mess them up if I drive them on dry conditions. Sorry for all the newbie questions, I just moved to the Chicago area from fricking Puerto Rico so you can imagine how much of a change this is

edit: I would really like to place the order before the end of the week if at all possible. It really sucked this past Tuesday with all the ice everywhere.

While the X-Ice XI2 is a good tire the availablility is rather limited and in many sizes they are already gone. I really like that tire as well as the Blizzak WS60 both would serve you very well to get around in the ice and snow ... Puerto Rico to Chicago is quite a move and you must be in full on culture shock. The winter tires will reduce if not eliminate the drama of driving in the snow and ice so, you can focus on other things .... like remembering the warmth of the Carribean while enjoying below freezing temps and sub-zero wind chills of a Chicago winter

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Old 12-10-2008, 01:22 PM   #342
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Old 12-10-2008, 02:23 PM   #343
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Called up Luke this morning, had an awesome chat whilst ordering my wheel & tire package!

Thanks so much for the help Luke!


thanks and if you need anything else just let me know

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Old 12-15-2008, 04:55 PM   #344
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I currently have 225/45/17 Hankook IceBears and it rubs too easily. Need to keep 17's cuz of BBK. I don't think 215's will make enuff of a difference so trying to see if 205/50/17's would work or possibly even a 45 profile. Looking to be very "affordable" winter tire or even an a/s tire w/good winter traction.


even lowered a 225/45-17 should not cause rubbing unless there are oher factors involved ...

what wheels are you running?
alignment specs?

205/50-17 would fit the car as would 215/45-17 but, I would not recommend a 205/45-17 because of it's lower load capacity.

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Old 12-15-2008, 06:18 PM   #345
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I'm currently running on some Michelin Primacy MXV4 (205/55/16R) tires that have served me well, but are showing themselves to be limited in the serious weather here in MT. I feel I need a dedicated set of studless winter tires to cope with the snowfall and temperatures here, while still maintaining my ability to drive to and from Seattle safely and in a timely manner.

Help would be appreciated, and thanks for posting this thread. This has been kicking around in my head since the snow's started to fall as quickly as the temperature... it just dropped to 10-20 below zero this past week.

Advice is Much Appreciated,
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given the brutal weather and desire to make those long drive I would highly recommend the Michelin X-Ice XI2. The Blizzak WS60 would also be a good option the XI2 will deal with the warmth of Seattle a little better.

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Old 12-15-2008, 08:46 PM   #346
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Need some advice... I picked up a slightly used set of Dunlop Winter Sport M3's. Was dark out when I loaded them up from the seller's storage unit. When I got home I realized one of the M3's was actually a 3D. It's the same size tire... question is, as long as all four are worn the same amount, do I run much risk using 3 M3's and 1 D3? I'd just replace the mismatch, but finding an M3 in 225/45/17 is proving difficult.


you can mix Winter SPort 3D's with M3's providing you keep them in pairs and on the same axle

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Old 12-15-2008, 11:56 PM   #347
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Need some advice... I picked up a slightly used set of Dunlop Winter Sport M3's. Was dark out when I loaded them up from the seller's storage unit. When I got home I realized one of the M3's was actually a 3D. It's the same size tire... question is, as long as all four are worn the same amount, do I run much risk using 3 M3's and 1 D3? I'd just replace the mismatch, but finding an M3 in 225/45/17 is proving difficult.
Normally, it's discouraged to mix and match different tires, especially snow tires but the M3's and 3D's are very similar. The tread pattern is quite different between the two tire models but since the tire type, performance rating, and traction is about equal I think you are fine. The 3D is the newest performance snow tire from Dunlop that replaces the M3 is certain sizes from what I remember reading a few years back. I had a Lexus IS350 which had the 3D's mounted in the front and M3's mounted in the rear (due to different tire size b/w front and rear) and had no issues at all. Both tires were great in the snow and dry.
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I'm currently running on some Michelin Primacy MXV4 (205/55/16R) tires that have served me well, but are showing themselves to be limited in the serious weather here in MT. I feel I need a dedicated set of studless winter tires to cope with the snowfall and temperatures here, while still maintaining my ability to drive to and from Seattle safely and in a timely manner.

Help would be appreciated, and thanks for posting this thread. This has been kicking around in my head since the snow's started to fall as quickly as the temperature... it just dropped to 10-20 below zero this past week.

Advice is Much Appreciated,
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Have you considered a set of Bridgestone Blizzaks? If snow traction was top priority a set of blizzak WS-50 would be my recommendation. I personally like the Dunlop Wintersport's because they offer great snow traction (not quite as good as the blizzak tires) while feeling like an all season tire when it's dry out. I know of people that actually drive on the Wintersport's all year round because they don't handle like a snow tire at all in the dry.


the WS50 is discontinued and replaced by the WS60

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Old 12-16-2008, 01:12 PM   #349
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Just looking for a cheep set of rims that will fit over the brembo's and a good tire. 17's would be best.


I would be all over the Winter Sport 3D's and the Spotr Edition A7 wheels ... it's a great combo for your area as well as your car ....

here's link right to the package to place your order ... but, give some thought to the tire pressure monitoring system. the needed sensors to keep it operational are about $50 each



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Old 12-16-2008, 03:33 PM   #350
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Primarily staying in town and on the freeways, but possibly an occasional trip into the mountains (trying to get into snowboarding).

I have considered putting snow tires on my existing 17" stock wheels (currently running 225/45 R17 summer performance) but am also considering picking up a cheap set of winter wheels.
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