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Old 10-07-2008, 09:53 AM   #76
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tires only or winter package: Tires only on OEM 16 inch wheels

I'll be driving mostly on highway where it is usually plowed, with patches of ice, very cold. Deeper snow usually on the local streets. Would you between the Michelin Xi2, Dunlop Winter sports, and some model of Bridgestone Blizzaks, what would you recommend?

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the choice should be between the X-Ice XI2 and the Blizzak WS60 and my money would go for the Blizzaks
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Old 10-07-2008, 03:36 PM   #77
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tires only or winter package: Winter package - As I am going to buy a new set of wheels should I got with 17" instead of the stock 18"

I have a pretty short commute on the freeway and plan on going snowboarding every week.

I would down size to 16" wheels and tires and get the WS60's which will transform your Speed 3 into a snowmobile

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Old 10-07-2008, 04:42 PM   #78
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I'm going to get a used pair of 2002 oem wrx rims and would like to run a good setup on them. Will be primarily used to get me up to the pass to snowboard around 2 times a week, but on the way up there it can be dry and speeds will reach 60-70 mph. I will still have my regular rims and tires for normal driving but I would like something good that can handle snow and ice for my other rims.

the more you go into snowy areas the better the odds are that you will encounter severe conditions ... going twice a week you should look for something more adept at dealing with those severe/chain control times I'm thinking the Michelin X-Ice would be a good fit

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Old 10-08-2008, 12:42 AM   #79
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I have a set of wheels for summer and oem 16" for the winter. my thing is that i have to drive from about 120 to 180 miles on the freeway and only the last 30 miles or so has ice or snow. lot of freeway and higher temps in town. i go snowboarding a least once a week in the winter. what are your thoughts?

with the 120 - 180 miles in the warm I would before getting to the snow and ice that's tough but, the Pirelli Sotto Zero would be the best way to go

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Old 10-08-2008, 12:37 PM   #80
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tires only or winter package: tires only....going on oem '06 17's

Tires will be dedicated winters and will see mainly highway use, although we do tend to get up to the mountains every other weekend or so.
*** However, I will be doing a road trip around Christmas/new year when we'll be heading all the way down to SoCal/Vegas etc. Don't want to run the risk of using dedicated summers for the Northern parts of the Journey.
I was thinking along the lines of Wintersport M3's or 3D's

the Dunlop Winter Sport 3D's are a good idea

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Old 10-08-2008, 08:58 PM   #81
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CT is tough because you could be in for a huge snow winter or just real cold and icy so, I would opt for a tire and wheel package using the Blizzak WS60

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Old 10-08-2008, 11:52 PM   #82
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I drive 30 miles round trip to Cedar Rapids and back for work 5 days a week to give you an idea of mileage, mostly on interstate and primary roads..but we were notorious last year for running out of salt and sand for winter storm help, so it got pretty bad.

Only lived in Iowa for one year, so I'm still not keen on the type of winters that go on here, but expecting the worst from around November->March(coming from someone who was born in Iowa but not raised here ). Looking for some help!

Iowa can have tons of ice and snow and more importantly the wide open spaces make blowing an drifting a real issue along with rather desolate areas as well ... Blizzak WS60 is the clear choice

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Old 10-09-2008, 12:19 PM   #83
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My daily commute is less than 10 minutes, and although we live on a very steep side road, most of the remaining commute- as well as probably 95% of any other trips we take over the winter- is on reasonably well-maintained interstate highway.

Budget-friendly options are a huge plus. Please let me know if you have any questions.

Fastest way to reach me is here at work- evansde@corning.com

Great, informative thread, BTW!

I would suggest the Sport Edition A7 wheels with the Blizzak LM25 tires as that would give you the superior winter traction of the steep side streets and still handle well on the highway

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Old 10-09-2008, 01:23 PM   #84
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I drive a 100 mile daily commute at 60-75mph of average to spirited driving when the road conditions are good. When the weather is bad, I will be doing the same commute in several inches of snow. Often the road is not cleared completely and will be ice slick in the morning or ice slick under powder.

I want some tires that will give me traction and control in bad conditions. But when the road is clear, I'd like to be able to handle OK at 70mph.

Also, how many miles can I expect out of whatever tires you recommend?

-Thanks, Scott

with the "V" speed rated Dunlop Winter Sport 3D priced at $99 in the 205/55-16 size and seeing that it is very well suited to meet you needs it would be my tire suggestion. Team those up with a set of 16" steelies and your on the road for well under $700.00 ...

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Old 10-09-2008, 02:24 PM   #85
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I am actually thinking about getting a used, cheap set of rotas on here for the winter and running a thicker sidewalled, narrower winter tire.

What would you suggest?

I was thinking 205/50-17 Dunlop Wintersport 3D's

I really do not like the profile the 205/50-17 has ... that size tire has a ballonish (is that even a word?) look and feel to it and it doesn't matter which tire or manufacturer it is. The Dunlop isn't a bad choice but, another option you should look at is the Ultra Grip Performance from Goodyear which is better suited to where you live

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Old 10-09-2008, 02:34 PM   #86
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How do the Dunlop M3's and 3D's differ? I bought a set of M3's a few winters ago and they've served me very well, so I'm just curious how they stack up against the 3D's. My other question is retarding tire life. I don't usually drive very much over the course of a year, and In the three winters that I've had the M3's, I've probably put fewer than 10,000 miles on them. Tread depth isn't much of an issue, but how will I know when the tires should be replaced? Surely they won't last forever even if the tread is still there.

the 3D has a slightly different tread tread design to offer better straight line bite and more incorporation of 3 dimensional sipes to reduce tread element squirm.

retarding life???

when to replace? most of the time it's really about tread depth and that is why there is a wear marker at 6/32" which is called a snow platform. If you read the first post in this thread it explains everything

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Old 10-10-2008, 12:49 AM   #87
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Hahaha, it's hilarious because there's a couple of CT people that are confused on this already and Luke, I have to give it to you, you really know your stuff. CT is definitely difficult because as small as the state is, there's a massive array of differing types of winter precipitation in such a compact area. I'm from Meriden, CT and this is usually the geographic location in CT where the temperature coincides with snowfall as opposed to sleet & freezing rain. However, we do get our fair share of every kind of winter precipitation. So I'm hoping your knowledge will guide me in a good direction for my dilemma for winter tires as well.. May it also be noted that I take trips up to Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine for snowboarding so that being so, I will experience more of the heavier snowfall associated with those geographic locations as well.

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Thanks in advance, your help is really appreciated because I've been reading so many reviews and I'm more confused than ever .

while you are in CT also you will probably being seeing more of the white stuff with the snow boarding trips so, I would suggest getting a tire which focusses more on snow and ice traction while still maintaining good performance when in the dry like the Blizzak LM25

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Old 10-10-2008, 01:20 AM   #88
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given those conditions I would take a look into the Michelin X-Ice XI2

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Old 10-10-2008, 10:38 AM   #89
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Hi a budget minded coworker is looking for a package (pref. 16" if rims exist). He has a 10 mile commute on semi-rural but well maintained roads. Ottawa tends to be frigid and last year especially we received an incredible amount of snow.
Edit: Oops thank you! (Gotta be a polite Canuck - we have a rep to uphold)

16" is not going to happen on a Legacy GT so, Sport Edtion A7 17" wheels and Dunlop Graspic DS-2's are coming in just under $800

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Old 10-10-2008, 10:56 AM   #90
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The stock RE070's from 2004 are ready for the trash, and this will be the first winter for the STi (previous owner garaged it).

I ended up ordering Bridgestone Blizzak LM-25's with the higher load rating, which cost 4-5 bucks more per tire. That total cost was $665 shipped, and I will get a $50 Bridgestone Visa in the mail for getting ready for the upcomming snow!

For wheels I ordered up some gunmetal Drag DR-31 wheels, knock-offs of Rota Torque, which are knock-offs of Work wheels. These were $484 shipped from Discount Tire Direct.

I just need to find some lugnuts and have them mounted and balanced.

I think this will be a pretty sweet winter setup, and felt it was a better deal then what Tire-Rack offered as a wheel/tire winter combo. I can post up pictures of everything in the next week or so.

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Old 10-10-2008, 12:53 PM   #91
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winter vs. A/S tires how much of a different can a tire really make? watch this video and see

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Old 10-10-2008, 12:57 PM   #92
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winter vs. A/S tires how much of a different can a tire really make? watch this video and see
Good Video!

year: 2007
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model: WRX Limited
location: Baltimore MD
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I have a set of BBS's w/ RE070's for summer and stock wheels/tires for winter.. Used them last year and they were meh. I try not to go out in really bad weather. Don't want to make my chances of crashing greater.

Just looking for some winter tires that will not be too expensive but better than the RE92's.

Thanks!

The Dunlop Winter Sport 3D either that or the Ultra Grip Performance from Goodyear

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Old 10-10-2008, 01:21 PM   #93
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tires only or winter package: Tires for OEM wheels (205/50/17?)

Work at home (no daily commute), occasional Sun Valley (150+ round trip via interstate).

if you want that size with the given information the Dunlop Winter Sport would be the best option

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Old 10-10-2008, 01:47 PM   #94
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How do the Dunlop M3's and 3D's differ? I bought a set of M3's a few winters ago and they've served me very well, so I'm just curious how they stack up against the 3D's. My other question is retarding tire life. I don't usually drive very much over the course of a year, and In the three winters that I've had the M3's, I've probably put fewer than 10,000 miles on them. Tread depth isn't much of an issue, but how will I know when the tires should be replaced? Surely they won't last forever even if the tread is still there.

the 3D has a slightly different tread tread design to offer better straight line bite and more incorporation of 3 dimensional sipes to reduce tread element squirm.

retarding life???

when to replace? most of the time it's really about tread depth and that is why there is a wear marker at 6/32" which is called a snow platform. If you read the first post in this thread it explains everything
That was supposed to be regarding tire life not retarding tire life. I did read the OP, but it didn't mention anything about tire age, and at the rate I am putting miles on, my snows will probably last me 10 years. I just wanted to know if there was some limit to how long they could last.

tire age issues have recently been in the news with sensationalistic stories about catostrophic tire failure. Many of the stories have featured the reporters making some very provocative statements regarding the safety of older tires. In my drivnig history which spans almost three decades and literally hundreds of tires I have had several tire failures from several different reasons none of which were age. Our experience has been that when properly cared for, most street tires have a useful life of between six to ten years. Environmental conditions like exposure to sunlight and coastal climates, as well as poor storage and infrequent use, accelerate the aging process. In ideal conditions, a tire may have a life expectancy that exceeds ten years from its date of manufacture. So, the best advice is to have the tire inspected periodically for signs of aging and deterioration. You should due that before installing them on your car each fall. Personally I get three or four winters out of my winter tires but, by the time thety are worn beyond a useful tread depth.

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That's a good question. The tires on my boat trailer are nearly 20 years old now. I doubt they have more than 3-5k on them (it mostly just gets towed a few miles around town a few times a year). The tread depth is still fine. But I worry that they may pose a risk now if I were to take it out on an interstate trip. Every year I tell my self I should replace them - just for peace of mind. But I never seem to get around to it. . .

Am I pushing my luck?

Nothing Lasts Forever...and Tires Are No Exception

In the 1970s, bias ply tires wore out in about 15,000 miles during two years of service. In the 1980s, early radial ply tires wore out in about 40,000 miles during four years of service. And by the turn of the century, radial tires lasting 60,000 to 80,000 miles were providing four or more years of service on vehicles averaging about 15,000 miles per year. In all of these examples, the tire treads "wore out" before the rest of the tire "aged out."

However, not all of today's vehicles average15,000 miles per year. Multiple-vehicle families, occasionally used recreational vehicles and vehicles driven only for pleasure are driven fewer miles per year. Additionally, enthusiast vehicles trailered to events, shows, stored or put on display for extended periods of time put on far fewer miles. It's possible to encounter ten-year-old tires with significant remaining tread depth because they've been driven less than 1,000 miles a year!

Unfortunately, the growing realization that tires are perishable means that the tires on some of these vehicles will actually "age out" before they "wear out."

How long will tires last before aging out? The U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and tire manufacturers are currently studying the many variables. Heavily loaded tires only driven occasionally in scorching climates face some of the most severe conditions, while lightly loaded tires driven every day in moderate climates experience the least severe. Add to that the amount of exposure to the elements (sun and atmospheric) and the quality of tire and vehicle maintenance practices (proper inflation pressure, wheel alignment, etc) and you have an idea of the complexity of the situation. While tire life will ultimately depend on the tires' service conditions and the environment in which they operate, the difficult task remains how to confirm and quantify it. You best course of action is to inspect the tires often when dragging the boat around it's also not a bad idea to keep the sunlight off of them

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location: Boise, ID
tires only or winter package: Tires for OEM wheels (205/50/17?)

Work at home (no daily commute), occasional Sun Valley (150+ round trip via interstate).

if you want that size with the given information the Dunlop Winter Sport would be the best option
Would 215/45/17 be a better option?
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Old 10-10-2008, 03:33 PM   #97
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I was thinking of these as well here is what I have.

year: 1999
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location: Colorado
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I was looking for cheap and good tires and found the Blizzak REVO1 for about $80 per tire.

Love the Revo1's ... even own a set ... the unique rubber compound that Bridgestone uses is fantastic in the ice and snow.
Thanks Luke I actually just picked up a set of wheels with these on them the tires are semi used but still has around 60% tread left on them. I can't wait to try them out this winter. Which I think the first snow is in the next 2 weeks or so, so I need to get these on very soon.

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Luke, I'm not sure if my order was classified as a NASIOC order (I presume it was, since you called me to make sure I was aware I was ordering winter compounds in California), but I just wanted to make sure that NASIOC got whatever credit that your agreement calls for.

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Old 10-10-2008, 08:29 PM   #100
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the "V" speed rated Winter Sport 3D's @ $99 are hard ot pass considering where you live.

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