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Old 10-10-2008, 10:23 PM   #101
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I commute about 20 miles each way to work, and also hit the mountains about twice a week.

Considering average precipitation in SLC and then throwing in frequent trips to the mountains I would opt for either the Michelin X-Ice XI-2 or the Pirelli SottoZero. The more trips into the mountains the more the X-Ice XI2 makes sense. I would go for the Michelin if it was my choice
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Old 10-11-2008, 02:38 PM   #102
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Luke, I'm looking for a wheel and tire package that's good in Spokane and for ski trips, but will also work well on the highways and in Seattle, where I'll be driving to monthly.

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Take a look at the Pirelli SottoZero or the Dunlop Winter PSort 3D along with a set of 16" Sport Edition A7 wheels. I would choose the SottoZero because of the highway use but the Dunlop is $124 less expensive and is very good also.

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Old 10-11-2008, 09:07 PM   #103
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Luke, what's your experience on the Blizzak Revo 1's? I drive a wrx with 17" Sti BBS wheels. i do a lot of driving on unplowed roads, and some interstate driving in northern IL.

Thanks

Love the REVO 1's and as stated I even own a set myself

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Old 10-12-2008, 12:08 AM   #104
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I love my Revo1's. 1 winter on them in Truckee, commute 35 mi to Reno for work even in the poundingest of snowstorms. Live at 6800'.

But..I got em mildly used and they'll need replacing for next year.

Luke, what would you recommend? They don't make these anymore, plus I rack up about ~200mi a week in commute.

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Have had: Hakkapellitta 1's studded=overkill, but awesome
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Hankook Zovac=adequate, appliance-like but no gripes for the price
Michelin arctic alpin= great but pricey



Blizzak WS60 no doubt about it

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Old 10-12-2008, 01:02 PM   #105
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while you are in CT also you will probably being seeing more of the white stuff with the snow boarding trips so, I would suggest getting a tire which focusses more on snow and ice traction while still maintaining good performance when in the dry like the Blizzak LM25
Thanks Luke. I appreciate the help. Those were the ones I was looking at, so it's nice that someone who knows what they're talking about recommended the ones I was looking at. You've been a big help and I'm sure you'll help a lo of people with their decisions.
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Old 10-12-2008, 08:56 PM   #106
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awesome write up, thanks for the great info straight from tirerack.
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Old 10-13-2008, 03:19 PM   #107
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do you happen to know of any steelies that would fit on a 06 sti


as far as I know they do not exist

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Old 10-13-2008, 04:56 PM   #108
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Luke,

Would you have any information about tread gap (instead of tread depth) about the wintersport m3's? I'm trying to find out if these tires are legal to be used in the stock fwd class in rallyx.

I can not answer that questions as it varies from size to size ...

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Old 10-13-2008, 08:19 PM   #109
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year:2007
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tires only or winter package: tires only
whatever i get will need to be mounted on the OEM wheels.

i do not want:
- poor tread wear in dry conditions ( whatever i decide on will need to last a while )
- poor handling at freeway speeds in any condistion

i do want:
- safer, more confident wet/snow de/acceleration, cruising, handling
- more grip in slush
- invinciblity in deep snow, when and if it arrives. and same confidence in light snow/ice/slush
- a resonable price ( around $120/tr ), if possible.

can/should i look at a narrower option than the OEM size?

that being said, on the stock potenzas, i have yet to get stuck in the snow. but i do feel the limit of their abilities on freeway snow driving. i do not mind a noisy ride and i dont drive too crazy, but i do like passing ppl with their blinkers on in the right lane as they cower in 2 inches of snow.

thanks for any info! oh majestic winter tire 8 ball!

I really like the Dunlop Winter Sports in your area and they meet your needs very well ansd stick woth the OE size

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Old 10-14-2008, 12:55 AM   #110
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Tires only or winter package: Winter package maybe

Before my Subaru I had a Focus SVT, and I would run the same all seasons year around and never had any real problems, but then again always drove really really slow in the snow and never had to do any quick stops or anything. Then when I bought my Subaru, it had Contiwintercontact TS810's on it. However they only had about 7/32nd's of tread left, and by the end of winter they had maybe 5/32nd's or a little less left on it. Once again though, I had no problems all winter with them. It was my first AWD car though, so maybe that had something to do with it.
Right now I have Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S's on, which I just got 2 months ago. And I watched the winter tire vs all season tire video, so at first I was just gonna run my all seasons year round, but now I'm thinking some winter tires will be the way to go (unless you dont think I would have a problem with the all seasons).

Anyway, I'm interested in some winter tires and some new rims to put them on. However I'm on a hell of a budget, so I was looking at the Firestone Winterforces or the General Altimax. Wheels, I was looking at the $55 Steelie's. Would you say either of those tires on the steel wheels would be a good set-up? Oh and the tires are more important than the rims...meaning I have no problems putting the snows on my stockers.

while your new Pilot Exalto A/S tires will be pretty good this winter when compared to other AS tires they are not even remotely close to providing the level of grip and traction a true winter tire can deliver. The Altimax Arctic and the WinterForce are not considered to be on the same level as the Blizzak WS60 or X-Ice XI2 or even the Performance winter tires like the Dunlop Winter Sports or Pirelli SottoZero but, they are still light years better than any all-season tire. Choosing between the two I like the Winter Force better

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Old 10-15-2008, 02:09 AM   #111
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Want: stoping power on compacted snow and slush
good handling on wet/dry pavement fresh/compacted snow

dont want: expensive.
short tred life.


I was thinking the Pirelli sottozero?

Agreed ! I love the SottoZero for your area and the sand covered roads. by the way why don't they use salt to melt the snow and ice in Colorado???

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Old 10-15-2008, 04:46 PM   #112
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Southwest WI and sometime in Milwaukee area

I need some tires that will work good in the Southwest WI where I go to college. I need it to work well on interstate highways as well as rural highways. I drive home (about 2.5 hr drive) to Milwaukee about once or twice a month and I will also be visiting for sometime during our winter break.

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He drives mostly on city streets and highways in Milwaukee.

for the WRX taking into consideration where you are I would typically choose the Blizzak WS60 but, with all of that highway driving the Michelin X-Ice XI2 would be a better option. The Scion does need to run the Blizzak WS60 as is needs more help since it's not all wheel drive

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Old 10-15-2008, 06:01 PM   #113
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Thanks Luke. Just got back from picking up my Valeo wipers at the NV warehouse.

cool!

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Old 10-15-2008, 08:45 PM   #114
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in a big snow area like yours I would strongly suggest the Blizzak WS60

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Old 10-15-2008, 11:13 PM   #115
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I was thinking of these as well here is what I have.

year: 1999
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location: Colorado
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I was looking for cheap and good tires and found the Blizzak REVO1 for about $80 per tire.

Love the Revo1's ... even own a set ... the unique rubber compound that Bridgestone uses is fantastic in the ice and snow.
My REVO1 tires have about 8/32" for two while other two have 6/32". Is it really time to order new tires for two tires with 6/32"?


you shouldn't start winter with less than the recommended 6/32" and should consider replacing them at that time you should put the ones with 8/32" on the rear and have at it

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Old 10-16-2008, 01:06 PM   #116
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I am looking for winter tires to use in Colorado. I live in the foothills (elev. 8,000 ft.) commute to Denver and to skiing in the mountains. We get everything here, but most driving is on dry roads, but when you need great tires is for the ice and snow. I would also like a tire that has decent tread life. Based on prior good experience with earlier models of Nokians and Blizzaks, I am looking at these two tires most closely, but am open to other suggestions.

Anybody have any experience with either the Nokian RSi or the Blizzak LM-25? Pros, cons?

Thanks!


if it's my car I'm doing 16" steelies and Blizzak LM25s and yes they do fit

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Old 10-16-2008, 01:32 PM   #117
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I am actually thinking about getting a used, cheap set of rotas on here for the winter and running a thicker sidewalled, narrower winter tire.

What would you suggest?

I was thinking 205/50-17 Dunlop Wintersport 3D's

I really do not like the profile the 205/50-17 has ... that size tire has a ballonish (is that even a word?) look and feel to it and it doesn't matter which tire or manufacturer it is. The Dunlop isn't a bad choice but, another option you should look at is the Ultra Grip Performance from Goodyear which is better suited to where you live
Considering I wait untill the first slush/snow to change out, and then put the summers back on the first 65* day, the goodyears are still your suggestion?

I love nothing more than going out in 4-6inches of snow and being nearly unstoppable in my suby.

Also, what size would you suggest for a 17x7.5?

Edit: I will take your word for it, and I think a 215/45-17 would be better. Thanks for your help....you sure I shouldnt get the wintersports???

The Winter Sports would be ebtter in the snow and ice but, I like the Goodyears for your area because while they are not as good in the white stuff they drive really nice when not in the white stuff which in your area is more than 60% of the time

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Old 10-16-2008, 02:49 PM   #118
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I love my Revo1's. 1 winter on them in Truckee, commute 35 mi to Reno for work even in the poundingest of snowstorms. Live at 6800'.

But..I got em mildly used and they'll need replacing for next year.

Luke, what would you recommend? They don't make these anymore, plus I rack up about ~200mi a week in commute.

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Have had: Hakkapellitta 1's studded=overkill, but awesome
Glacier grip=suck
Hankook Zovac=adequate, appliance-like but no gripes for the price
Michelin arctic alpin= great but pricey



Blizzak WS60 no doubt about it
Hey man I just got some WS60's if you want to check them out, I am in Incline, but go to Truckee every once in a while...
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Old 10-16-2008, 06:16 PM   #119
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Hey man I just got some WS60's if you want to check them out, I am in Incline, but go to Truckee every once in a while...
Thanks, I've got just this winter left on my revo's, but if you still have them after meltage, I'd be down.
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Old 10-16-2008, 06:33 PM   #120
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i was thinking the blizzaks ws-60 would be the right tires, but i was wanted your input for the location with those tires. I do alot of driving on the highway commuting to work and what not, and need something that would handle well in wet or icey conditions rather that actual snow.

the Blizzak WS60 is fantastic on the ice and with the upgrade to interlocking sipes they are not nearly as bad on the highway as previous generations. Run a set of those and a Sport Edition wheel like the D5 in 15" and your out for well under $800


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Old 10-16-2008, 07:05 PM   #121
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Year: 2005
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Location:Pueblo, Colorado
Tires only or winter package: Winter package maybe

Want: stoping power on compacted snow and slush
good handling on wet/dry pavement fresh/compacted snow

dont want: expensive.
short tred life.


I was thinking the Pirelli sottozero?

Agreed ! I love the SottoZero for your area and the sand covered roads. by the way why don't they use salt to melt the snow and ice in Colorado???
goood question... i have no clue.. but they use a LOT of sand... like the sahara desert.


which sottozero? the : 210
210 RFT
240
240 RFT
270 seri 2
or is there any major difference?


stay away from RFT and the difference between 210 and 240 is just the speed rating so, I would go for 240 but in a 205/5516 you would need to go 210 as they do not make the 240 in that size

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Old 10-16-2008, 07:26 PM   #122
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Tires only or winter package: Tires only
Tiresize: I have 15 Inch stock steelies and I'm not sure if I should get 195/60-15 or 185/65-15

I want a tire I can drive at 50-60 MPH in inches of snow and have lots of traction in slush or packed snow on the highway. Obviously some ice traction would be helpful with black ice.

I'm ordering tires next week from TireRack and was dead on getting Bridgestone Blizzack WS-60s, I guess I just need a confirmation that it the best choice?

Blizzak WS60 is exactly what you are asking for and 195/60-15 is the way to go

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Old 10-17-2008, 12:55 AM   #123
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I read all the previous posts and I seem to have the same situation as the one from bakersfield. I go up to Tahoe about 10-15 times a season but I drive from San Francisco which is around 130 one way before getting to the snow. I was also planning to drive around the streets with these on for the rest of the winter season but I don't want to sacrifice traction in snow and ice.

So the ones that I think might suit me are the Dunlop 3D's or the Sottozeros. I'm leaning towards the 3D's because they're more affordable. What do you think?

I also saw the Firestone winterforce's. What's your take on that? They are so cheap but the ratings look so high.

While the Dunlop is less expensive to purchase it will wear faster than the Pirelli when not in the white stuff so, the Pirellis are more attractive for the long term usage. The tire life of the pirelli woud be 20% - 30% better when used in conditions like you mention. The winterforces sacrifice too much normal drving performance to be a real player in your situation

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Old 10-17-2008, 02:10 AM   #124
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I read all the previous posts and I seem to have the same situation as the one from bakersfield. I go up to Tahoe about 10-15 times a season but I drive from San Francisco which is around 130 one way before getting to the snow. I was also planning to drive around the streets with these on for the rest of the winter season but I don't want to sacrifice traction in snow and ice.
I want to know about this, too.

I bought a set of used steelies w/ Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50 last season. I only used them for 1 trip to Tahoe & I didn't even get to used them at their max potential (it was sunny). They seemed to be pretty good in snow & ice, but I didn't think they were good to be driven in the city (San Francisco) or even on freeway before I'd even see snow.

I'm considering to get Performance Winter tires (SP Winter Sport 3D) or even All-Season tires (ContiExtremeContact seem rated pretty good in snow for M+S) for replacement, especially since I wouldn't even drive during the storm.

see my response above

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Old 10-17-2008, 05:18 PM   #125
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I was wondering about the Goodyear Eagle Ultra Grip GW3. I have used the Blizzaks and Dunlops and liked them both but want to try something different. Just curious about your thoughts Luke.

Thanks also for helping my Mom pick the Blizzaks, just picked them up from the new warehouse east of Sparks and they are getting mounted as I type.

Basically, I am not a fan, while it is a decent tire, and better than some, it's not nearly as effective in the snow and ice as the Blizzak and Dunlop offerings.

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