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Old 10-02-2008, 07:27 PM   #1
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Default Any usdm 2.0 stock block Dom 3.0R users?

If anyones running a usdm 2.0 with a dom 3.0r post em up
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Old 10-03-2008, 12:31 AM   #2
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2 many pussys bro, everyone goes 2.5.

how much whp are u making?
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Old 10-03-2008, 02:26 AM   #3
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Rite now I'm only at 280 ahwp with a vf30. I'm upgrading to a green or a dom 3.0r, since I just got a 6spd
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Old 10-03-2008, 06:30 AM   #4
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There's no reason why you can't, but 205's reach their limits a bit more quickly then 255/257's. If I were you, I'd ensure I have enough money put away in case something does happen to it.
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:31 PM   #5
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I'm getting a sti shortblock hopelly soon.. Already found it. Need to pay for it.
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:32 PM   #6
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I'm getting a sti shortblock hopelly soon.. Already found it. Need to pay for it. I'm going to run the dom or green on my 2.0 then run it on my hybrid.
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:40 PM   #7
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your not gonna have power until you hit about 4500- 5500... but when it does come on its gonna pull real strong


hope you can shift quickly
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:59 PM   #8
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well, not the dom 3 but back in the day there have been plenty of people who put gt30's on their 205.

The .63 guys all hit full boost at like 4500 or so and got results about 20whp less than what STIs get which is expected.

it's not THAT laggy. It's a good setup, I think you should go for it. EJ205 can take more abuse than people give it credit for.
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Old 10-03-2008, 05:35 PM   #9
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ya a GT30 spools pretty quickly for what it is... as long as its fully online by 4500 you'll be ok... and rev your motor to at least 7200....
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Old 10-03-2008, 07:41 PM   #10
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well, not the dom 3 but back in the day there have been plenty of people who put gt30's on their 205.

The .63 guys all hit full boost at like 4500 or so and got results about 20whp less than what STIs get which is expected.

it's not THAT laggy. It's a good setup, I think you should go for it. EJ205 can take more abuse than people give it credit for.
ill have to agree i have a gt3076r .63 on my bugeye and it made 376whp and 267wtq it had full boost around 4500 rpm or so and when it hit it hit the bad thing about it is the slight lag you can diffinity notice the difference up against how fast the vf39 spools and the combined tq of the 2.5l
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Old 10-03-2008, 08:35 PM   #11
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If I were to do things differently, I wouldn't hesitate to run an EJ207 (preferably Version 8), with a GT30R/equivalent. It may spool later, but that combined with the 8.2K redline of the built 2.0 would be incredible.
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Old 10-03-2008, 09:11 PM   #12
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its all in your preference about lag....

i hated my 60 lb/min turbo on my 2.2L for daily driving.....it was slower than **** below 5000rpm.....

the turbo would go from 0psi at 4500rpm to 22 psi at 4700rpm.....like an on/off switch.

that in concert with a 6 puck exedy clutch made for quite miserable daily driving
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Old 10-03-2008, 09:42 PM   #13
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What did that 2.2 rev to?
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Old 10-03-2008, 09:58 PM   #14
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i still have it....i think it was just bumped to 7200rpm. its just a bored ej205. stock heads. a trp/esx shortblock
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Old 10-04-2008, 12:47 AM   #15
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im gonna do it. whats the worst that can happen lol. Lag is overrated.
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Old 10-04-2008, 01:24 AM   #16
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im gonna do it. whats the worst that can happen lol. Lag is overrated.

you darn right it's overrated. All it takes is getting used to lol.

Besides, huge turbo = great gas mileage cause you'll never be in boost during daily driving. All the guys with gt35r's are getting like mid to high 20's combined mpg. Do your part in saving the environment and going green: get a 30r and then get the 2.5 later
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Old 10-04-2008, 02:23 AM   #17
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you darn right it's overrated. All it takes is getting used to lol.

Besides, huge turbo = great gas mileage cause you'll never be in boost during daily driving. All the guys with gt35r's are getting like mid to high 20's combined mpg. Do your part in saving the environment and going green: get a 30r and then get the 2.5 later
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Old 10-04-2008, 02:39 AM   #18
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im gonna do it. whats the worst that can happen lol. Lag is overrated.
Just downshift and you don't have to worry about the lag.
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Old 10-04-2008, 03:34 AM   #19
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I have tuned 205s with Greens, reds, 30rs and 35rs many times. The trouble is the connecting rods. They tend to leave the block above 350ft lbs at the wheels. I have made 400 with some and they held. As for power, The motor starts to show its limitations around 375whp. Still. I have made 400whp with them many times. I just detune the trq by reducing boost and or reducing the timing. If you tune carefully, they will live. If its a high mileage motor, I would be a bit worried.

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Just downshift and you don't have to worry about the lag.
this comment is obviously coming from someone without a large turbo.

if im in 2nd gear at 5000 rpm and i shift into first gear what rpm am i gonna be at?

if im in 3rd gear at 5000rpm andi shift into 2nd gear what rpm am i gonnna be at?

"just downshift" is a retarded term...i have used it also....but bottom line is it takes time.....if you're in a gt35r car and have to "just downshift" and im in my Green'd car + meth and dont have to downshift, you lose.

even with my green i would still lose around an auto x course to a vf39.....

its all about when and where you want your powerband, but if you're having to downshift (and the other person isnt)....you're losing
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I have tuned 205s with Greens, reds, 30rs and 35rs many times. The trouble is the connecting rods. They tend to leave the block above 350ft lbs at the wheels. I have made 400 with some and they held. As for power, The motor starts to show its limitations around 375whp. Still. I have made 400whp with them many times. I just detune the trq by reducing boost and or reducing the timing. If you tune carefully, they will live. If its a high mileage motor, I would be a bit worried.

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Exactly.

207 time!

The stronger internals handle more, the extra RPM's help, and they make great power. Honestly I think the 2.5's are overrated...plus stock 255/257's won't have that much higher limits than the 205 as is. I'm dying to build something with a 207 soon.
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Old 10-04-2008, 10:52 AM   #22
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im doing a GT3076 .63 on my stock 2.0, 60k miles on the engine. i just dont feel people credit this engine enough.
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"just downshift" is a retarded term...i have used it also....but bottom line is it takes time.....if you're in a gt35r car and have to "just downshift" and im in my Green'd car + meth and dont have to downshift, you lose.
even with my green i would still lose around an auto x course to a vf39.....

its all about when and where you want your powerband, but if you're having to downshift (and the other person isnt)....you're losing
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Drag racing is 'ok' , a little, to have the lag. Otherwise.. booo. I absolutely loved my 2.0 with built heads and trany with an FP td06-18G turbo. Such a FUN car to play with! Getting sideways was no problem. Even with my SZ49 and my STI its a perfect match. So would a GT30. We tuned a 2.0 with FP green to 405/370 and she lasted 'ok'.
Also, ya the 2.0 will hadle the 2.5 abuse (maybe more) but the extra half liter nets more power obviously...and more gas.
These cars are a pita.
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this comment is obviously coming from someone without a large turbo.

if im in 2nd gear at 5000 rpm and i shift into first gear what rpm am i gonna be at?

if im in 3rd gear at 5000rpm andi shift into 2nd gear what rpm am i gonnna be at?

"just downshift" is a retarded term...i have used it also....but bottom line is it takes time.....if you're in a gt35r car and have to "just downshift" and im in my Green'd car + meth and dont have to downshift, you lose.

even with my green i would still lose around an auto x course to a vf39.....

its all about when and where you want your powerband, but if you're having to downshift (and the other person isnt)....you're losing
I wasn't using it in reference to racing. I don't do any racing and I tend to think of it in terms of daily drivability.

Your example of being @ 5K and downshifting is "retarded" as well because you will be spooling the turbo by the time that you reach an RPM that you wouldn't want to downshift to accelerate anyway.
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a good driver can make use of ALMOST any powerband
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