gd steering rack in a gc

acidrain088 · 10-05-2008, 01:36 AM

will this work. my steering rack is going, getting a little sracy but ive got a gd from a bugeye wrx laying around. wondering if this will just bolt up into a gc impreza?

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kingston · 10-05-2008, 06:52 PM

i've heard it does...anyone care to confirm?

circaisdashiat · 10-05-2008, 07:15 PM

it will bolt up.

But it will not bolt to your GC steering column. Unless you have both GD and GC steering coupler and cut and weld them back together.

I just used a GC steering column and have no problems.

circaisdashiat · 10-05-2008, 07:17 PM

i also have a GD dash and beam...

So im not sure if a GC steering column will bolt to the GC dash beam. I know it would not have in my MY1995. Not sure in later years.

silentt · 10-05-2008, 08:35 PM

http://aussiedan.com/blog/2008/07/02...-linkage-swap/

sense of nature · 10-06-2008, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silentt

http://aussiedan.com/blog/2008/07/02...-linkage-swap/

^^ did it works just fine !

silentt · 10-06-2008, 01:39 PM

As did I. Swapping a piece of the linkage >>>> welding the linkage. Easier and safer.

rdodger · 10-06-2008, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silentt

As did I. Swapping a piece of the linkage >>>> welding the linkage. Easier and safer.

Meh, the way it is designed those u-joints were never meant to be spread then recrimped, and though very unlikly they might fail when messed with. I rewelded mine because its faster and easier than prying apart two u-joints, personally I think either way is fine but welding is faster and less of a PITA. And unless you've never welded in your life theres no way that low stress area will see weld breakage.

kamilrs · 10-06-2008, 04:02 PM

Hi, I'm looking to swap 05 USDM sti steering rack into my 99 2.5 RS. Does anyone know if that will fit?

silentt · 10-06-2008, 04:04 PM

No, your car will implode

kamilrs · 10-06-2008, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silentt

No, your car will implode

Can you please explain what do you mean by that?

silentt · 10-06-2008, 06:16 PM

The STI steering rack is much beefier than the RS steering rack. When you hit bumps, that extra energy is transferred to your steering column. Due to the use of a collapsable steering column in order for Subaru to attain higher crash test ratings, the steering column will much more readily collapse with the extra energy transferred to it via the STI steering rack. Once this happens, your steering column collapses and your steering wheel falls into the engine bay. This will then destroy your crossmember (once again, extra shock load) and will cause your engine to literally drop. It is being held on by the pitch stop mount, the intake and the various bits of wiring going to the engine. Once you remove those, the engine falls to the ground.

Now, with the crossmember destroyed, the structural integrity of the chassis becomes questionable and it has a tendency to collapse inward since there is not enough support from the middle of the vehicle. Over time, the actual frame of the car behind the engine bay starts to warp and twist inside. Once the steel becomes weak enough, it falls apart, where everything collapses inward, thus completing the implosion.

kamilrs · 10-06-2008, 09:03 PM

Thanks for explanation. That sounds pretty scarry.

silentt · 10-06-2008, 11:50 PM

You're welcome.

JDiMpreza · 10-08-2008, 02:34 AM

thats mean

sense of nature · 10-08-2008, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silentt

As did I. Swapping a piece of the linkage >>>> welding the linkage. Easier and safer.

no welding necessary
just split the joint & press em back together like in the link u could weld but not really necessary
took a ttl of 15 min to complete just regrease the joint

sense of nature · 10-08-2008, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silentt

The STI steering rack is much beefier than the RS steering rack. When you hit bumps, that extra energy is transferred to your steering column. Due to the use of a collapsable steering column in order for Subaru to attain higher crash test ratings, the steering column will much more readily collapse with the extra energy transferred to it via the STI steering rack. Once this happens, your steering column collapses and your steering wheel falls into the engine bay. This will then destroy your crossmember (once again, extra shock load) and will cause your engine to literally drop. It is being held on by the pitch stop mount, the intake and the various bits of wiring going to the engine. Once you remove those, the engine falls to the ground.

Now, with the crossmember destroyed, the structural integrity of the chassis becomes questionable and it has a tendency to collapse inward since there is not enough support from the middle of the vehicle. Over time, the actual frame of the car behind the engine bay starts to warp and twist inside. Once the steel becomes weak enough, it falls apart, where everything collapses inward, thus completing the implosion.

extremely detailed , has this happened to u ?

silentt · 10-08-2008, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDiMpreza

thats mean

Quote:

Originally Posted by sense of nature

no welding necessary
just split the joint & press em back together like in the link u could weld but not really necessary
took a ttl of 15 min to complete just regrease the joint

That's what I said. Other people were saying to weld it, I disagreed and said it's easier to just swap that one piece (like we both did).

Quote:

Originally Posted by sense of nature

extremely detailed , has this happened to u ?

Dan Cech · 10-09-2008, 07:52 AM

Glad my method is working out for you! I still haven't had a chance to drive my car yet

Seraphinwolf · 10-09-2008, 08:37 AM

Get the GD colum with the rack. That's what I'm doing after talking it over with my best parts and info swap source.
-Gaddis

rdodger · 10-10-2008, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silentt

The STI steering rack is much beefier than the RS steering rack. When you hit bumps, that extra energy is transferred to your steering column. Due to the use of a collapsable steering column in order for Subaru to attain higher crash test ratings, the steering column will much more readily collapse with the extra energy transferred to it via the STI steering rack. Once this happens, your steering column collapses and your steering wheel falls into the engine bay. This will then destroy your crossmember (once again, extra shock load) and will cause your engine to literally drop. It is being held on by the pitch stop mount, the intake and the various bits of wiring going to the engine. Once you remove those, the engine falls to the ground.

Now, with the crossmember destroyed, the structural integrity of the chassis becomes questionable and it has a tendency to collapse inward since there is not enough support from the middle of the vehicle. Over time, the actual frame of the car behind the engine bay starts to warp and twist inside. Once the steel becomes weak enough, it falls apart, where everything collapses inward, thus completing the implosion.

Haha I honestly laughed out loud, good job.

slava from goshen · 10-10-2008, 08:17 PM

is sti steering rack better? i'm thinking of getting sti donor, swap the rack, column(imobolizer

), i already have turbo x member ej20g ftl......

Dan Cech · 10-11-2008, 08:15 AM

Yes, the STi rack has a faster ratio (15:1) than the WRX rack (16.5:1).

You won't need to swap the column if you modify your steering linkage as above.

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circaisdashiat Scooby Newbie Member#: 96315 Join Date: Sep 2005 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Tucson, AZ Vehicle: 1995 STi V5 replica World rally blue	it will bolt up. But it will not bolt to your GC steering column. Unless you have both GD and GC steering coupler and cut and weld them back together. I just used a GC steering column and have no problems.

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circaisdashiat Scooby Newbie Member#: 96315 Join Date: Sep 2005 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Tucson, AZ Vehicle: 1995 STi V5 replica World rally blue	i also have a GD dash and beam... So im not sure if a GC steering column will bolt to the GC dash beam. I know it would not have in my MY1995. Not sure in later years.

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silentt Scooby Specialist Member#: 119995 Join Date: Jul 2006 Chapter/Region: W. Canada Location: Canadia Vehicle: 2004 Outback XT Peachy	As did I. Swapping a piece of the linkage >>>> welding the linkage. Easier and safer.

10-06-2008, 04:02 PM	#9
kamilrs Scooby Newbie Member#: 191072 Join Date: Oct 2008	Hi, I'm looking to swap 05 USDM sti steering rack into my 99 2.5 RS. Does anyone know if that will fit?

10-06-2008, 04:04 PM	#10
silentt Scooby Specialist Member#: 119995 Join Date: Jul 2006 Chapter/Region: W. Canada Location: Canadia Vehicle: 2004 Outback XT Peachy	No, your car will implode

10-06-2008, 06:16 PM	#12
silentt Scooby Specialist Member#: 119995 Join Date: Jul 2006 Chapter/Region: W. Canada Location: Canadia Vehicle: 2004 Outback XT Peachy	The STI steering rack is much beefier than the RS steering rack. When you hit bumps, that extra energy is transferred to your steering column. Due to the use of a collapsable steering column in order for Subaru to attain higher crash test ratings, the steering column will much more readily collapse with the extra energy transferred to it via the STI steering rack. Once this happens, your steering column collapses and your steering wheel falls into the engine bay. This will then destroy your crossmember (once again, extra shock load) and will cause your engine to literally drop. It is being held on by the pitch stop mount, the intake and the various bits of wiring going to the engine. Once you remove those, the engine falls to the ground. Now, with the crossmember destroyed, the structural integrity of the chassis becomes questionable and it has a tendency to collapse inward since there is not enough support from the middle of the vehicle. Over time, the actual frame of the car behind the engine bay starts to warp and twist inside. Once the steel becomes weak enough, it falls apart, where everything collapses inward, thus completing the implosion.

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kamilrs Scooby Newbie Member#: 191072 Join Date: Oct 2008	Thanks for explanation. That sounds pretty scarry.

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silentt Scooby Specialist Member#: 119995 Join Date: Jul 2006 Chapter/Region: W. Canada Location: Canadia Vehicle: 2004 Outback XT Peachy	You're welcome.

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slava from goshen Scooby Specialist Member#: 152176 Join Date: Jun 2007 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Goshen, IN Vehicle: 2001 2xImpreza 2.5RS BRP/SRP	is sti steering rack better? i'm thinking of getting sti donor, swap the rack, column(imobolizer ), i already have turbo x member ej20g ftl......

10-11-2008, 08:15 AM	#23
Dan Cech Scooby Newbie Member#: 67154 Join Date: Jul 2004 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Central NY Vehicle: 1997 Legacy GT/WRX White	Yes, the STi rack has a faster ratio (15:1) than the WRX rack (16.5:1). You won't need to swap the column if you modify your steering linkage as above.