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Old 06-12-2001, 05:34 AM   #1
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Unhappy So, did anyone else wreck their friend's S2000 yesterday?

Yup, I wrecked an S2000 yesterday. My friend, Chris, is out of town, and I was watching over the car for the weekend - drove it home from the airport Friday, and was going to drive it back to pick him up tomorrow. He had wanted me to fiddle with a couple things, so I drove it home from work (Chris lives on the Sub Base) yesterday to play with.

I decided I needed some vital modification stuff (Velcro and adhesive weather stripping, both keys to any good project ), and headed out to Home Depot. I was about 2 or 3 miles from my house, and was pushing the car a bit, but not terribly hard - it's not my car, and the roads were wet in some spots. Based on how far the car slid, though, I was definitely going faster than I thought (still within the capabilities of the car, just faster than I thought).

I came around a right hander and about 2/3 of the way through the corner saw a dog coming out of the bushes on the left side of the road. I tried to squeeze to the right edge of the road, and I squeezed too far. The car clipped a rock that juts out right off the side of the road - no more than a couple inches off the pavement - and that sent the tail out quite forcefully.

I don't really remember what happened in the next few seconds, it was just kind of surreal. I clipped a tree maybe 30-40 yards down the road about 3' off the road. I don't remember what on the car hit that, but there was definitely bark taken off the bottom of the tree. I think I was still tail-out at that point, and clipping that tree with the right fender kinda straightened me out. I went over a row of small rocks, narrowly avoided a stout mailbox, and headed towards a rock wall and a couple trees. I thought I was gonna plow right into the rock wall, but I ended up just passing over the end of it, where the wall was kind of low and in disrepair. I then continued to slide and stopped the car in the entrance to a driveway. It was probably about 150 yards (just guessing) from where I clipped the first rock to where I came to rest.

I really don't remember what the car was doing. I told the police the rear came out when I nailed the brakes to avoid the dog, but even as I was telling them that I was thinking to myself, "How did I lose control so bad?" I went back afterwards and took a look at things again, and that's when I remembered clipping the rock on the inside of the turn, which makes a lot more sense. After that, though, I really don't remember what the car or I was doing. I kinda remember feeling like I was flying as I approached the rock wall, it felt like the rear was in the air and I was looking down the nose of the car at the approaching wall, but I don't think the car was really airborne. Very strange feeling.

Anyway, the right side of the car is done. Front bumper, chin spoiler, right front wheel (about 1/3 gone), fender, door, quarter panel, rear wheel (scuffed, tire punctured). I think the rear bumper is OK, just some paint scaped off - should be able to buff it and repaint. I think the car would have been drive-able with two new wheels and tires on the passenger side. I didn't crawl on the ground to look underneath, as it was all wet and muddy, but it did not appear that the suspension was broken at all. I popped the hood and looking down through it looked like the lower control arm was fine, and both wheels appeared centered in the wheel wells (unlike the Boxster S pics from Watkins Glen).

Chris took the news pretty well. His car is the grey/silver color, and now he wants a yellow one, so he asked "Are you sure you didn't total it so I can get the yellow one I want?" He also asked if I managed to damage the left rear quarter panel at all - he found a big door ding (the car's first door ding) on it last week, so he was hoping to get that fixed too. The thing that really makes me feel bad is that Chris just got the car back a few weeks ago from it being out of service for a couple of months. Somehow the car lost a lot of oil a couple months back and the engine seized, so the car had an entirely new engine put in. The dealer initially tried to tell him it was his fault and that it wouldn't be covered under warranty, so Chris had to go to Honda of America to get the thing resolved. It took a couple of months for Honda of America and the dealership(s) involved to figure out who was paying for it, etc etc, but in the end it all worked out. And then I come along a few weeks later and put it back out of service.

So, that was my day. I can't wait to see what my insurance is going to do now!

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Old 06-12-2001, 06:00 AM   #2
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well, you've covered wrecking an AWD car, and now a RWD car. Who's got the FWD to let PAt drive it?

just kidding with ya man. That defenitely sucks to hear. And I know how it is, where you can't even think about what happened, cause it's so fast, and you happen to panic. Then you look at the site afterwards and wonder: "Did I do that?"
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Old 06-12-2001, 06:09 AM   #3
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wow.. remind me no to mention that I am a friend of pat olsen when I talk to my insurance company. I'm sure they've got black and white posters in all the break rooms at insurance companies with your pic on it.
We're glad you're ok.. I really wish you'd get some better luck there pat.. all this rolling and crashing will catch up with you.

If I remember correctly, it's almost the same story as Adam Bloom when he flipped his silver S2000.. I think some small mammal was involved in the accident.

sooo... got pics?
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Old 06-12-2001, 06:11 AM   #4
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That is a shame - always liked S2000's.. I trust you're okay?

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Old 06-12-2001, 06:33 AM   #5
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Sorry to hear this, Pat. Glad you're okay.
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Old 06-12-2001, 06:34 AM   #6
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Dude,
That really blows. At least it sounds like you managed to come out of the accident injury free. If there was one thing I learned at an early age, it's that trees win.
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Old 06-12-2001, 06:37 AM   #7
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At least you're okay - flipping in that could have hurt.
You should be all set with accidents for about the next 20 years. You don't need to have any more.

I took an off-ramp yesterday way too fast, and scared the crap out of me. If I even thought of the word "brakes" - I would have flipped off the Exit 1 Mall bridge.

Wake up call for me... - Kris
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Old 06-12-2001, 06:53 AM   #8
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Wow, total bummer, but yellow is a way better color than the gray/silver.

Glad your not hurt. Adam Bloom said he tried to avoid two kids that ran out in the street, and he drove up an embankment and rolled the car over I think twice. Much worse than this. His right front wheel was ripped right off the car!

I am sure they can fi it. Pat, whatever you do, do not move to MA. Your insurance will be insane. Do you know you can afford a really nice pedal bike for the amount you spent on the DSM stuff. Might be an idea?

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Old 06-12-2001, 06:59 AM   #9
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My advice to people on the road is to drill the animal into your grille. That's called an Act of God, and generally are a no-fault situation. The trick is that instinctively you try NOT to hit things. My wife coulda saved us a good bit on insurance if she had just slammed the brakes on and drove through the deer instead of breaking AND swerving.

Not that that does you any good at this point, Pat...

Sorry to hear about the S2000. A few years from now you'll chuckle about it. Maybe.

So how was the car BEFORE you tried to rally it?


edit: unless they're human like in paulg's post...

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Old 06-12-2001, 07:43 AM   #10
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Hey Pat,

I'm glad you're ok ... that's what's most important !... your pride & ego will recover in time ... if & when your buddies allow this ...

next time ... take the animal ... I have never hit one yet ... but have always mentally prepared myself to hit the animal before going off the road ...

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Old 06-12-2001, 07:44 AM   #11
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man that sux you have some bad luck man
I think adam bloom was trying to avoid ppl instead of an animal, he should have ran right through them
Good luck with the insurance company..they must hate you...but damnit, they rip us all off, so good work ripping them off!
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Old 06-12-2001, 07:46 AM   #12
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You hit the nail right on the head, Dirk. It's one of those "easier said than done" kinda things. With small animals, sure, those are easy to plow over. I'm always amazed when I see people jamming on the brakes or swerving to avoid a squirrel. A good-sized dog is harder to hit, though. I was definitely thinking that I should have just hit it (or assumed it was going to get out of my way, as I think it did) after everything was said and done. Oh well.

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Old 06-12-2001, 07:49 AM   #13
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So like, you didn't answer. How's an S2000?
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Old 06-12-2001, 07:55 AM   #14
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Hehehehe. Pat, you should change your screen name to "Crash."
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Old 06-12-2001, 08:08 AM   #15
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Speaking of dogs, first, let me tell you I love dogs. However, I've hit (and killed) two dogs with my big rig, plus another few in the lab. Once you've done it the first time, it gets easier...

Also, when I was a trucker, I had to keep telling myself, if I can't stop the truck in time to avoid an accident, then it's better to plow into the 4-wheeler in front than to swerve and jack-knife the truck (and take out more cars). Luckily, I never had to do either before I "retired".

- The Dog Killer
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Old 06-12-2001, 09:07 AM   #16
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Quote:
I've hit (and killed) two dogs with my big rig, plus another few in the lab. Once you've done it the first time, it gets easier...
I just thought that sound funny.. I am waiting for:
People are a bit tough, but it only takes two or three and then it is just as easy.

My uncle use to drive a Greyhound Bus, and he hit a deer one night. Did a good bit of damage to the bus he said. But rrkan is right, he said when you drive something that big, the last think you think about is swerving. He was just glad he had an empty bus, he said it was not a pretty site.

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Old 06-12-2001, 09:38 AM   #17
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damn!
glad you are ok!
(what else is there to say?)
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Old 06-12-2001, 09:57 AM   #18
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Keith - I talked to my insurance company last night, and talked to the local rep this morning. It turns out that insurance follows the car, not the driver, so I'll be in the clear on this. Of course, that means Chris gets screwed for assuming I'm smart enough not to wreck his car. I'll pay whatever his insurance increase is.

TTO - [Me sticking up my middle finger.] I'm actually just on a bad streak. I went 11 years without a "real" accident (two fender benders, only a couple hundred dollars worth of damage for each one). Now I've had two big ones - the Legacy in August, and now this thing yesterday. The strange thing is I think I'm a better driver skills-wise than I've ever been, and I don't think I'm driving cocky. Oh well.

Edit: How's the S2000 when it's intact? Well, it's certainly a fun car, but I don't think I could own one. I posted a review of the car a while back after I got to drive the car the first time, and driving it again has not changed my opinion. I'm a torque lover, and so the high revs/no torque thing just doesn't do it for me. It's cool to rev it that high, but it just doesn't feel fast at all. The vaunted VTEC "kick" that's supposed to come in around 6000rpm just doesn't happen - or at least not that I can tell. Brakes are awesome, but pedal feel is kinda soft. Clutch picks up too high off the floor. It certainly is a babe magnet - about 2 min before the accident I was sitting at a stop sign waiting for an approaching vehicle to turn left in front of me. Said vehicle turned out to be driven by a very attractive brunette, who proceeded to scope me out like I've never been scoped out before as she drove by. I mean, she was workin' too see who was in that cool little car. (I had the top up due to wet leaves, pollen, etc falling from the trees). I couldn't help but laugh a bit, because I've never seen a reaction like that before. Anyway, to continue, the handling is very good, but the damping is a little soft. If you hit a bump mid-corner you get that disconcerting feeling of the tires staying planted and the whole rest of the car shifting to the side - tough to describe, but I don't like the feeling. For a convertible, the chassis is unbelievably tight, really showing just how much of a wet noodle my poor Mustang 'vert is. It's definitely a cool car, but "me primitive caveman, me need torque!"

Pat

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Old 06-12-2001, 10:33 AM   #19
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Dude, that stinks. At least nobody got hurt.

I was taking it very easy yesterday because of the rain. I'd never driven it with that much water on the ground before. The car felt solid, but not quite as connected to the road as usual. Those wonderfull RE92's.

At least your friend took it well. I hope his insurance isn't too bad.

And it's tough to make a split second decision to run down an animal in that situation. It's not like you run into that problem on the track.
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Old 06-12-2001, 01:26 PM   #20
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Oh man that really sucks. I am sorry to hear about it. Hopefully nothing else happnes to ya. Good luck
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Old 06-12-2001, 05:10 PM   #21
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Pat,
Glad to hear you made it through unscathed. As for the car, well, you can always get more of them; we have the one and only Pat Olsen.

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Old 06-12-2001, 05:20 PM   #22
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Glad to hear you're ok, even if you do spell your name wrong. :P

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Old 06-12-2001, 05:36 PM   #23
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GLad your ok, could have turned out really really messy from the way you describe it.

it sucks though, at least your friend took it in stride- I have a friend that freaked when I put a few surface scratches in the bed of his truck from a hose (black paint hard to keep clean yada yada yada) but then the stupid bastard wrecks it anyway cutting someone off (which he still contends wasn't his fault)

but either way- GLAD YOUR OK

speed safely (and no one seems to listen to me when I say this )

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Old 06-13-2001, 12:28 AM   #24
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Pat - Freaky things happen. That's why we have insurance, right? Don't worry about it and don't change they way you drive.

On a related note, while I was trucking, I took out someone's corner lights while backing up my rig about once every 18 months or so. The positive thing is that it kept a "accident free" stretch from going on too long. There were a couple of drivers in my old company that had 20+ years and over 3 million accident free miles. Imagine the pressure they have everyday on the road - as that streak may end with a "bang" any moment!
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Old 06-13-2001, 12:36 AM   #25
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trucking?

rkkwan...weren't you just complaining about some DNA sequencing going south? What the heck kind of rennaisance man are you?!
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