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Old 11-29-2000, 09:26 AM   #1
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Post Pilot Alpins.. alignment specs?

You guys with the Pilot Alpins and other performance winter tires..especially ttoversteer and pilot...what would you recommend for alignment specs?

I'm guessing that the alignment should be a bit different than for those with true "snow tires" like Artic Alpins, Blizzak MZ's, Graspic's, Toyo Observes, etc.

..but should it?

Currently, I'm set at 1 degree neg, 1/16 toe out in front and rear (on RE92's).


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Old 11-29-2000, 10:49 AM   #2
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do you plan on getting an alignment every fall/spring when you change tires?
i would say what you have now is going to be fine for winter driving but im interested in what pilot and tto have to say about this.
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Old 11-29-2000, 11:09 AM   #3
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I'm not sure what the alignment specs on my car are (Pilot could probably answer that better than I), but I believe they are at about 1 degree toe out at the front, with the rears pointing more or less straight ahead.
These are the same specs that I was using when I had my summer tires (AVS Sports) mounted. So far, I've not had a problem, and I think my current settings will be okay. However, I may change my mind when I drive in the snow/ice, as the car might be too twitchy. If that is the case, I'll go to neutral settings.
Because the Pilot Alpins are a "High Performance" winter tire, my car handles similarly to when it was on the AVS Sports, but the turn-in isn't as abrupt. Oh, and the ride is now quieter; boy were those Yoko's noisy!!!
As an aside: I got even tire wear on my AVS's with a "performance tuned" allignment. It's amazing how long those tires are holding up. I did rotate them a couple times to keep the wear even.
If you'd like to drive my car with the Pilot Alpins, send me a note.
Oh yeah... the Pilot Alpins out perform the RE92's in absolutely every category.

Drive smooth,


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Old 11-29-2000, 12:01 PM   #4
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The Pilots should be here on Thurs or Fri, a day too late for the first storm.

I might take you up on that testdrive offer.

As for the alignment, yeah, I wouldn't mind getting an alignment in the winter and spring. It might not be cost effective, but if the ride is more to my liking and/or safer, I'll do it.

Where's Drew? ...I'll wait to see what he recommends.

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Old 11-29-2000, 04:48 PM   #5
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Actually (since I was the one who did the alignment) TTO is running 3 degree minutes of toe-in on the back of the car and 0 degrees toe on the front of the car.

If you want to change anything for the winter I would probably change the toe so that it is somewhere between 0 degrees and 0.5 degrees toe-in.

You currently have a small amount of toe-out on your car, I would put the tires on and see 1) how it drives, and 2) how the tires wear before I went blowing money on alignments.
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