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Old 10-08-2008, 11:59 PM   #1
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Default Hotchkis/Cobb question end link question.

Ok so here is the deal, i found a used set of COBB sways on here so i decided to purchase. After i purchased i found the whole part about how the end link drama had been found. I then opted to purchase the hotchkis end links. After i purchased i suddenly realized that they were the competition and that they were not solid but fully adjustable. I now am wondering should i just use these bad boys or should i get the solid ones? I guess what worries me is that i have a set of kartboys and they lok really solid compared to these i dont know it may be just because not every swinging wanker has them. Has anyone ever used these? How do i install? Are they the same as the kartboys would be? I appreciate any advice/comment.

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Old 10-09-2008, 02:05 AM   #2
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Weedhopper,

I'd keep the Hotchkis, but you don't give many details. As for help installing;

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Old 10-09-2008, 07:52 AM   #3
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Hotchkis and cobb are not competitors the relationship i supplier retailer. I don't see any reason not to use those endlinks. You need to know that Hotchkis has been around for a long time and make a solid product. Not that others product are not as good if you have put them on.

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Old 10-09-2008, 10:15 AM   #4
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ok it just seems that the size/strength looks about the same as stock in the threaded portion and most are using solid not spherical endlinks.
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There are two types of endlinks on the market that I'm aware of:
1. Solid end links with Rubber(Urethane) Bushings
2. Spherical bearing type.

There is much debate over what is better. There are some swaybar end links that are know to have failure problems, I have not heard of any instance that Hotchkis endlinks fail.

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Old 10-09-2008, 06:10 PM   #6
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Weedhopper,

I'd keep the Hotchkis, but you don't give many details. As for help installing;

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Old 10-09-2008, 06:54 PM   #7
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There are three types of endlinks on the market that I'm aware of:
1. Solid end links with Rubber(Urethane) Bushings
2. Spherical bearing type.
3. Ball-in-socket type. That is what's pictured in the OP, and is also similar to several OEM designs.

There is much debate over what is better. There are some swaybar end links that are know to have failure problems, I have not heard of any instance that Hotchkis endlinks fail.

Ball in socket probably has similar longevity to the spherical joint type.

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Thanks ringe

Guess I was considering type 2 and 3 to be more or less the same I wont make the same mistake again.

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You should not use the hotchins set. They are total crap and will cause your engine to blow up and your tranny to overheat. I am a nice guy and I will take them off your hands for the cost of shipping.

Anyone who thinks I am serious needs to have thier sacasm meeter checked.
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Old 10-10-2008, 03:31 PM   #11
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Ha i may have laughed out loud! Thank you for all your input guys. So do you think that i should just adjust these ones to the same length as the stockers for the COBB bars for trhe install? I guess that is where i am confused, i mean at what height do i say its enough to then tighten the nut to lock it in place?
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So do you think that i should just adjust these ones to the same length as the stockers
Yes just make them the stock length, yes you could mess with the preload on the bar making it stiffer or less stiff with the adjustable end links, but I recommend starting with the stock length.

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awesome thanks! oh and do you suggest putting more packing grease into the booties? (i am not sure if they are pre greased)
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you cant go wrong with more grease it will squirt out if it wants to but better safe then sorry

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IMHO - I would not recommend using the Hotchkis end links. I had them on the front of my car for over a year and did not like them. They were noisy even when I kept them greased (my car is not my dd). They can also be a pain to install / disconnect when changing struts. I have the kartboy endlinks now and I like them much better.
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