Level Ten 4EAT service Quote

Clegg · 03-20-2002, 11:54 PM

I talked to Level Ten via email and got a quote to do a Valve Body, and Torque Converter work AT their shop ( drive out there chill for a few days and drive home).

Total was around 1900$ ( 700$ labor which is right on with what any local shop would want and possibly a hundred cheaper). with the Valve body being re-tuned, and the T/C being moved up 800 RPM for stall and keeping the full lock up capability. ( so you dont loose your gas millage on the freeway)

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RiftsWRX · 03-21-2002, 10:05 AM

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Originally posted by Clegg
I talked to Level Ten via email and got a quote to do a Valve Body, and Torque Converter work AT their shop ( drive out there chill for a few days and drive home).

Total was around 1900$ ( 700$ labor which is right on with what any local shop would want and possibly a hundred cheaper). with the Valve body being re-tuned, and the T/C being moved up 800 RPM for stall and keeping the full lock up capability. ( so you dont loose your gas millage on the freeway)

Well...

IIRC, Protorque's charge is $495 and L10 is $595 for the TC

The valve body was like $650? with $700 in labor... that's spot on.. so you save a hundred bucks going through protorque, but either way.... sounds good.

Jorge (RiftsWRX)
www.ProjectWRX.com

IgotWRXed · 03-21-2002, 04:14 PM

whats the pros and cons(if any) of getting a valve body? i was just gonna do the TC. well im prob just gonna have to, because i have no money

jorge u ever have any track numbers of just the TC? or did u have the vf on before u got the tranny mods?

03-21-2002, 06:11 PM

Pro-Torque does the TC's for level 10, so its not much differance whether u get it from level 10 or pro torque, other then about 70+ bucks

RiftsWRX · 03-22-2002, 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by IgotWRXed
whats the pros and cons(if any) of getting a valve body? i was just gonna do the TC. well im prob just gonna have to, because i have no money jorge u ever have any track numbers of just the TC? or did u have the vf on before u got the tranny mods?

Just the TC.....

Low 16's.... <----> Mid 14's....

Jorge (RiftsWRX)
www.ProjectWRX.com

IgotWRXed · 03-22-2002, 10:53 AM

WOW, this mod is definetely worth it. mid 14s is like a stock 5spd.

Clegg · 03-22-2002, 11:09 AM

The valve body just keeps the line pressure real high through the entire power band giving you REAL fast and hard shifts. This will prolly wear the belts and clutch packs less since there isnt the gradual engagement ( in the loosest sense of the word, since stock shifts are still way fast) that rubs the belts and clutch packs before engage'n fully.

Jorge, How complex is the T/C install? I mean is it just dropping the tranny, and swapping it? If so I may just buy the T/C on my own, and when I get the group N engine mounts put on, I will see if Jeremy wants to help just pull the engine. ( can get some more stuff done rather easy then)

Anyone know how hard it is to remove a valve body and re-install it on one of our tranny's?

RiftsWRX · 03-22-2002, 12:21 PM

Doing a TC is as hard as doing a clutch...

Jorge (RiftsWRX)
www.ProjectWRX.com

nathman · 03-25-2002, 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by Clegg
The valve body just keeps the line pressure real high through the entire power band giving you REAL fast and hard shifts. This will prolly wear the belts and clutch packs less since there isnt the gradual engagement ( in the loosest sense of the word, since stock shifts are still way fast) that rubs the belts and clutch packs before engage'n fully.

A lot of my fun with my Auto WRX wagon has come from playing in the dirt, I absolutely love practicing the sliding turn out in the desert....thinking about trying a rallyX...would the T/C stall speed mod be a benefit to rallyX/rally type driving, or even an autoX, or is it mostly for launching?

IgotWRXed · 03-26-2002, 12:06 AM

from my understanding, the TC will help you accelerate quicker in the low rpms, reguardless of how you are driving (i.e. launching, or just mashing the pedal) this would be an excellent mod for when you need to go fast quick, say after hitting the breaks going into a turn, and need to power out of it.

PadreWRX · 03-26-2002, 02:15 AM

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Originally posted by nathman
would the T/C stall speed mod be a benefit to rallyX/rally type driving, or even an autoX, or is it mostly for launching?

I find the reponse on my new TC to be better all around in the low and mid-range. I've never autocrossed or rallied, but from daily driving, I think it would be a huge improvment. IMO.

Padre

Torch · 03-26-2002, 12:22 PM

Has anyone done the Torque Convertor swap themselves? If so what was it like? Any special tools?

The reason I ask is because I dont want others working on my car if I can help it. I have swapped engines & transmissions before in f-body's but nothing import.

Clegg · 03-26-2002, 08:37 PM

I have not done one myself but I have heard numerous people say engine and tranny pulling in a subie is VERY similar to a domestic rwd car ( due to placement of the tranny in relation to the engine and such.)

03-20-2002, 11:54 PM	#1
Clegg Scooby Specialist Member#: 7761 Join Date: Jun 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Denver, CO Vehicle: 2008 VW R32 #3858 Blue	Level Ten 4EAT service Quote I talked to Level Ten via email and got a quote to do a Valve Body, and Torque Converter work AT their shop ( drive out there chill for a few days and drive home). Total was around 1900$ ( 700$ labor which is right on with what any local shop would want and possibly a hundred cheaper). with the Valve body being re-tuned, and the T/C being moved up 800 RPM for stall and keeping the full lock up capability. ( so you dont loose your gas millage on the freeway) * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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IgotWRXed Scooby Specialist Member#: 14868 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: manhattan beach, ca Vehicle: 2002 wrx	whats the pros and cons(if any) of getting a valve body? i was just gonna do the TC. well im prob just gonna have to, because i have no money jorge u ever have any track numbers of just the TC? or did u have the vf on before u got the tranny mods?

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RobPA Guest Member#:	Pro-Torque does the TC's for level 10, so its not much differance whether u get it from level 10 or pro torque, other then about 70+ bucks

03-22-2002, 10:53 AM	#6
IgotWRXed Scooby Specialist Member#: 14868 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: manhattan beach, ca Vehicle: 2002 wrx	WOW, this mod is definetely worth it. mid 14s is like a stock 5spd.

03-22-2002, 11:09 AM	#7
Clegg Scooby Specialist Member#: 7761 Join Date: Jun 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Denver, CO Vehicle: 2008 VW R32 #3858 Blue	The valve body just keeps the line pressure real high through the entire power band giving you REAL fast and hard shifts. This will prolly wear the belts and clutch packs less since there isnt the gradual engagement ( in the loosest sense of the word, since stock shifts are still way fast) that rubs the belts and clutch packs before engage'n fully. Jorge, How complex is the T/C install? I mean is it just dropping the tranny, and swapping it? If so I may just buy the T/C on my own, and when I get the group N engine mounts put on, I will see if Jeremy wants to help just pull the engine. ( can get some more stuff done rather easy then) Anyone know how hard it is to remove a valve body and re-install it on one of our tranny's?

03-22-2002, 12:21 PM	#8
RiftsWRX Scooby Guru Member#: 6124 Join Date: Apr 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Glendale Hts, IL, USA Vehicle: 2000 NFR AP1 S2000 '07 Honda FIT sport (5MT)	Doing a TC is as hard as doing a clutch... Jorge (RiftsWRX) www.ProjectWRX.com

03-26-2002, 12:06 AM	#10
IgotWRXed Scooby Specialist Member#: 14868 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: manhattan beach, ca Vehicle: 2002 wrx	from my understanding, the TC will help you accelerate quicker in the low rpms, reguardless of how you are driving (i.e. launching, or just mashing the pedal) this would be an excellent mod for when you need to go fast quick, say after hitting the breaks going into a turn, and need to power out of it.

03-26-2002, 12:22 PM	#12
Torch Scooby Specialist Member#: 10172 Join Date: Sep 2001 Chapter/Region: TXIC	Has anyone done the Torque Convertor swap themselves? If so what was it like? Any special tools? The reason I ask is because I dont want others working on my car if I can help it. I have swapped engines & transmissions before in f-body's but nothing import.

03-26-2002, 08:37 PM	#13
Clegg Scooby Specialist Member#: 7761 Join Date: Jun 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Denver, CO Vehicle: 2008 VW R32 #3858 Blue	I have not done one myself but I have heard numerous people say engine and tranny pulling in a subie is VERY similar to a domestic rwd car ( due to placement of the tranny in relation to the engine and such.)