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Old 10-22-2008, 08:05 AM   #1
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Default The Official Hunting thread and Official Dog thread are right next to each other.

And I saw it as the Official Hunting Dog thread. And I thought, "Why do I want to see pics of mangy, tick infested dogs?"



I don't have a problem with hunting, but I take issue with how the dogs are often treated.
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Old 10-22-2008, 08:07 AM   #2
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Old 10-22-2008, 08:10 AM   #3
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My hunting dogs never looked like that.
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Old 10-22-2008, 08:13 AM   #4
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All the ones that come roaming into my yard do.
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Old 10-22-2008, 08:26 AM   #5
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I don't know what kind of a hunting dog is in that picture you posted, but I've never seen a hunting dog in anything other than top-notch condition around here. Are you confusing "hunting dog" for "stray dog that must hunt for every meal"?

Honestly, every guy I know that has a hunting dog, and I know a lot, treat them better than your average pet owner. When you've got well over $1,000 and hours upon hours of your time invested in training, you tend to treat them a bit better than the mutt down the street. At least around here that's the case.
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Old 10-22-2008, 09:05 AM   #6
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Man, my hunting dog looks abused... come save it! Seriously man, there are differences out there... You wont find an upland bird hunting dog that EVER looks like that thing you posted. My vet thinks I am god's gift to dogs everytime Jaeger goes in for a checkup... I think beyond your hog/bear dogs, most people take VERY good care of their hunting animals... Too much time and money invested to not take amazing care of them
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Old 10-22-2008, 09:08 AM   #7
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I've been hunting with a bow and my snow leapord (which I've had since level 11). Things have been working out great for me. My aspect of the cobra is also helping with Mana management while hunting.
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Old 10-22-2008, 09:12 AM   #8
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Old 10-22-2008, 09:38 AM   #10
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Old 10-22-2008, 11:19 AM   #11
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I've had several first hand experiences around here with people that hunt with dogs. Dog gets sick? Shoot it. Behavioral problem? Bullet. Sucks at hunting? Bang. Can't afford to feed them all anymore? Dump some somewhere.

I've accidently hit a couple. Once, I was asked where the accident occured, so he could "come get the collar". I watched the same spot for a week, the dead dog was still on the side of the road for three days before he bothered to come get the collar, and when he did, he left the dog.

And weeks after hunting season is over, emaciated stragglers with numbers spray-painted on their sides wander through the yard, going through the trash, or curl up in a corner of the yard, waiting to die. I've coaxed more than one half-dead dog into my car, hoping it doesn't **** itself, as I take it to the pound.

The only time a hunting dog sees a vet around here is for the mandated rabies vaccinations, when the owners are doing it legally, anyway. I'd be willing to bet that half of them never go.

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Old 10-22-2008, 11:46 AM   #12
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What you stating is purely regional to where you live then because the hunting dogs I know are treated far better then most house pets.

Now, you could argue that shock collars are bad but they're a means to an end. Also, about the guy coming to get the collar, I don't at all agree with every other aspect of the situation but those collars aren't free, usually well over $200.

My friends beagle is the king of the house, constant training in the backyard with rabbits and walked often to keep up it's stamina. The retrievers I know are the skinniest (read: Fittest) labs I've ever seen. Not because they're underfed but because they're fed properly and worked. Most labs have an extra 10lbs on them because their owners don't work them enough.

My current dog is not a hunting dog, she's a doberman, but is at ideal weight (per the vet) and walked 3-4 miles every morning.
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Dude WTF! Your state is doing it wrong. Move to Michigan. We worship our hunting dogs as if they were Jesus.
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Old 10-22-2008, 11:54 AM   #14
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Just waiting for the wife to let me "pull the trigger" so to speak and I am going to begin looking for a breeder with Wirehaired Pointing Griffons.

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Just waiting for the wife to let me "pull the trigger" so to speak and I am going to begin looking for a breeder with Wirehaired Pointing Griffons.
My uncle and my cousin both have German Wirehairs. There is a great breeder outside of the Monroe area if you are interested. He does a lot of interviewing and rejects most of the people that apply for various reasons. If you want me to get contact information for you let me know. He'll only sell to people that will train and hunt with the dog.



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Dude WTF! Your state is doing it wrong. Move to Michigan. We worship our hunting dogs as if they were Jesus.
I was just about to say this. Every hunting dog I've ever seen gets groomed 3 or 4 times before the owner gets a hair cut. Sure there are guys that don't treat their dogs good, but most of them are the type guys that poach bear year round and live in shacks way back in the woods.

Here are some hunting dogs from highly respected breeders around here. You've got to apply to buy dogs from them, and they don't operate like puppy mills.



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Also, about the guy coming to get the collar, I don't at all agree with every other aspect of the situation but those collars aren't free, usually well over $200.
I deleted that part of my post; I didn't write it correctly. The dog had a $5 nylon collar. What I meant to say was that the guy seemed to have more interest in the $5 collar than in properly burying the dog. He left it on the side of the road.

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...and they don't operate like puppy mills.
Not 5 miles from my house, there is a cut-over section of woods. The remains of a hunting dog mill are still visible. A large water tank, fenced in lots, simple cubes made of plywood. Far enough out there to not be visible from the road. Like growing pot.
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Old 10-22-2008, 12:23 PM   #17
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Again, your location probably has more to do with what you've seen than anything, as others have said. Don't think that what you've seen is typical behavior of hunters across the nation, because it isn't. I'm sorry to hear that the "hunters" in your area treat their dogs like that. I've seen grown men bawl like babies when their hunting dog passes, I assure you that most hunting dogs are NOT abused or neglected.
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Being the home of Michael Vick, I can see how my view might be biased.
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