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Old 10-02-2014, 05:39 PM   #1
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I rarely get my car to a drag strip, but I made the trip for the midwest subaru shootout, here are the results!

My fast pass

its the only one I ended up getting, my Gopro died after this run


Also Jr's fast pass in the car




the car has more potential, after reviewing the logs my IAT's were going up over 30* in one pass (113* rising to 148*)

the turbo is well outside of its efficiency range but screaming where it is.

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Old 10-02-2014, 06:22 PM   #2
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I like this car lol
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Old 10-02-2014, 06:27 PM   #3
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I like this car lol
I am happy with how it ran running the small IC core and maxed out stock location turbo, Next up is a real turbo
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Old 10-02-2014, 06:35 PM   #4
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I am happy with how it ran running the small IC core and maxed out stock location turbo, Next up is a real turbo

9180 and a BFIC big boy style

The way this past shootout went I think next year 9s will be the norm
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Old 10-02-2014, 06:39 PM   #5
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9180 and a BFIC big boy style

The way this past shootout went I think next year 9s will be the norm
Im in with it! I hope 9's will be the norm! it was awesome just to see this many 10 cars!

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Old 10-02-2014, 07:41 PM   #6
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Old 10-02-2014, 11:02 PM   #7
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Welcome to that 10 second club buddy!
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Old 10-03-2014, 12:10 AM   #8
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Welcome to that 10 second club buddy!
Thanks guys!

Awesome to see you bust off low 10's CJ!
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Old 10-03-2014, 09:19 AM   #9
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Define stock location turbo
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Old 10-03-2014, 10:08 AM   #10
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Define stock location turbo
Blouch Dom4 bolt on turbo with INTERNAL wastegate

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Old 10-03-2014, 10:49 AM   #11
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OK, so to clarify... Internal wastegate in the stock location is what's considered "stock location".

Something like this would NOT be considered stock location...





I read a racecar engineering book years ago and the author made an interesting statement that I often see to be true. "In racing there are cheaters and there are losers." I just want to know where we're going to fall there
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Old 10-03-2014, 10:57 AM   #12
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I read a racecar engineering book years ago and the author made an interesting statement that I often see to be true. "In racing there are cheaters and there are losers." I just want to know where we're going to fall there
Ain't that the truth.

Find a way to make a less restrictive intake with your piece there and you really will be "cheating."
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Old 10-03-2014, 11:13 AM   #13
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Find a way to make a less restrictive intake with your piece there and you really will be "cheating."
This car will stay here for a while. At just under 400whp that intake is not hurting at all... considering that power is on a small 3067 (not 3076) According to my estimates, it won't be an issue even with another hundred over that, which jnorth has shown here as well. The rotated kits do have good marketing though
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IMO, "stock location" is anything that uses the stock Subaru housing.

There are rotated setups that can use the stock TMIC, and even this KillerB one that has decided to keep the inlet under the intake manifold (which makes no sense to me), but they're not using the Subaru exhaust housing.

It's all just semantics anyways. 10's is 10's
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Old 10-03-2014, 11:19 AM   #15
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This car will stay here for a while. At just under 400whp that intake is not hurting at all... considering that power is on a small 3067 (not 3076) According to my estimates, it won't be an issue even with another hundred over that, which jnorth has shown here as well. The rotated kits do have good marketing though
What is the perceived benefit of running it under the manifold though? To "look" more like stock? There are rotated kits that can use the OEM TMIC. Your kit vs. a rotated kit are going to require basically all the same parts (rotated uppipe, EWG, rotated downpipe) but the rotated kit can use a 4" intake while this one cannot.

I'm sure this will turn out to be a high quality setup, like all your other items, but I really just don't see any draw to it other than a really tiny niche market that wants to "look" stock for some reason. If you offered this kit vs. a rotated kit (with the same quality, similar price, etc) I (and I think nearly everyone else) would just pick the rotated kit.
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Old 10-03-2014, 11:35 AM   #16
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I did some playing on the dyno with my turbo, I found the inlet not to be the restriction (reading inlet pipe, intake, filter or otherwise) but the small housing size.

when you rotate this really opens doors up for the compressor side.

I think the Killer B housing is a good idea ( the up pipe only needs to be a standard EWG up pipe they have an adapter for the V band exhaust housing)

I would be willing to give it a go IF I didnt have a twin scroll manifold (adding an EWG would be a pain in the butt)

my turbo is an off the shelf Dom4 with the stock internal wastegate/wastegate actuator no different than what anyone else could buy.



Full-Race also offers EFR turbos that are in the stock location that have the inlet under the manifold as well and call them "stock location" which technically they are..

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Old 12-05-2014, 02:21 AM   #17
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Im really considering trying out the spoolinator kit.


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Old 12-05-2014, 11:59 AM   #18
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I dont know how ive avoided this thread. Great job on such a gorgeous car!

Great talking to you yesterday as well and excited to see the direction this car takes.
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:23 PM   #19
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I dont know how ive avoided this thread. Great job on such a gorgeous car!

Great talking to you yesterday as well and excited to see the direction this car takes.
Thanks guys! I cant wait to work more with you in the future!
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