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Old 05-22-2013, 02:44 PM   #1
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Default EQ - 2006 WRX, GT28RS, 91 Octane

Here is a 2006 WRX we tuned a while back. These are not horribly impressive results, but in light of recent posts, I figured it would be a good chart to post in comparison.

Event: Custom Tune/Dyno
Location: Equilibrium Tuning - Fairfield, CA
Ambient Temp: 75 degrees Fahrenheit
Elevation: ~100ft above sea level

Car: 2006 Subaru WRX
Tuner: Cory Schander@ Equilibrium Tuning
Peak HP at RPM: 360whp @ 5750RPM
Peak Torque at RPM: 367ft-lbs @ 4050RPM
Target Boost: 18.5psi peak
Fuel: California 91 Octane

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ATP GT28RS Stock Location Turbo
Catless TBE
Cobb SF Intake
Upgraded TMIC
ID1000cc Injectors
Aeromotive Fuel Pump
EQ Custom Tune Using Cobb AP




Native Dynocom Calibration:



Mustang Calibration using .85 CF:



While this is not my favorite turbo by any means, the car turned out well all around, spooled well, and held power OK to redline. I would compare this turbo to one of the better 18G variants.

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Old 05-22-2013, 02:56 PM   #2
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:01 PM   #3
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:01 PM   #4
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Lol.... Your a fool for this one ed...lol
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:02 PM   #5
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This car must have heads and cams
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:05 PM   #6
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This car must have heads and cams
Of course... its the only way to not drop 100whp!

Don't forget the manifolds!

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Old 05-22-2013, 03:06 PM   #7
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Lol.... Your a fool for this one ed...lol
Gotta support the popcorn companies!
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:16 PM   #8
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Of course... its the only way to not drop 100whp!

Don't forget the manifolds!

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I was just tuning a forum members 2013 with bolt ons+Bt1.5 and he mentioned that 100whp drop off thread.. I showed him the gains from stock AVCS to modded AVCS ranging from peak hp to redline on his own car during the tuning process. We had a good laugh, he said we must have stuck some big cams in while he wasn't looking
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:28 PM   #9
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So you made 360whp on a 36lb/min turbo on terrible fuel? Like I offered previously, I can help you get your software setup so you don't have such inflated numbers.
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:38 PM   #10
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So you made 360whp on a 36lb/min turbo on terrible fuel? Like I offered previously, I can help you get your software setup so you don't have such inflated numbers.
No thanks.. I had Paul from Dynocom set up the dyno here in person. I agree the dyno reads high out of the box and that's why I provide the .85 CF graphs to compare with lower reading dynos. On the .85 CF calibration, a stock 2008+ STI puts down about 195-205whp and on the native calibration it puts down 235whp. Does that sound too high to you? What does a stock 2008+ STI put down on your dyno?

BTW, you immediately jumped to the absolute numbers, but how do you explain the lack of a 100whp drop here as compared with your charts?

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Old 05-22-2013, 03:39 PM   #11
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Are you posting logs to go with this Ed?
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:41 PM   #12
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Uh oh Let me seat myself. Ok, continue please.
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:42 PM   #13
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Are you posting logs to go with this Ed?
I think a log is useless without something to compare it to...in this case
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:44 PM   #14
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So you made 360whp on a 36lb/min turbo on terrible fuel? Like I offered previously, I can help you get your software setup so you don't have such inflated numbers.
His numbers can actually be translated into some sort of track performance. You guys have done nothing more then post Dyno charts every week
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:44 PM   #15
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Are you posting logs to go with this Ed?

Sure thing!

Code:
RPM	FBKC	FKL	Timing	Boost	AFR
1945	0	0	51.5	-9.43	14.39
1937	0	0	51.5	-9.42	14.55
1932	0	0	51.5	-9.4	14.51
1955	0	0	52	-9.42	14.43
1957	0	0	52	-9.24	14.55
1966	0	0	51.5	-8.73	14.55
2025	0	0	24	0.1	13.76
2084	0	0	21	0.69	13.06
2195	0	0	21	1.28	13.73
2302	0	0	21	1.94	14.04
2415	0	0	21	2.63	14.04
2535	0	0	20.5	3.43	13.61
2675	0	0	20	4.32	13.33
2804	0	0	19	5.39	13.49
2990	0	0	17	6.8	13.18
3164	0	0	16	8.56	12.63
3321	0	0	14.5	10.89	11.84
3532	0	0	12.5	13.91	11.37
3746	0	0	11.5	16.97	10.82
3934	0	0	12	18.42	10.59
4203	0	0	12.5	18.3	10.78
4438	0	0	13	18.14	10.86
4688	0	0	13	18.05	10.98
4897	0	0	13.5	17.97	10.86
5110	0	0	13.5	17.53	10.69
5323	0	0	14.5	17.05	10.9
5580	0	0	15.5	16.72	10.88
5774	0	0	15.5	16.59	10.75
5943	0	0	16.5	16.4	10.86
6151	0	0	17.5	16.3	10.94
6327	0	0	18.5	16.11	10.9
6550	0	0	20	16.03	10.78
6672	0	0	21	15.97	10.78
6876	0	0	22	15.93	10.86
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:50 PM   #16
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What happened to the 25 degrees everywhere
JK that looks like I would expect except for the 52 degrees at the beginning. That seems high for 2000 RPM. Unfortunately I don't get to play with a dyno to see the gain there so tuning for gas mileage/low load is harder. Mine taper more there. Probably never matters anyway though.
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:54 PM   #17
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What happened to the 25 degrees everywhere
JK that looks like I would expect except for the 52 degrees at the beginning. That seems high for 2000 RPM. Unfortunately I don't get to play with a dyno to see the gain there so tuning for gas mileage/low load is harder. Mine taper more there. Probably never matters anyway though.
The 25 degrees we were talking about was for old school V8 cars. They tend to just run a flat timing curve under load. I think you knew that, but figured I'd clarify anyway.

The 52 degrees at the beginning of the run is with no throttle at all... notice the high vacuum there. Depending on model/year, Subies usually run 45-55* at very low load at low RPM's.

Thanks for the question and I'm happy to answer any others.

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Old 05-22-2013, 04:07 PM   #18
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lol I knew about the 25 degrees thing. I guess being a smart ass is lost in the written word even with the jk.
Cory helped me learn to tune. I tune subies every now and again but not often. I was having a hard time learning at first. You weren't as open back then but I'm glad you're willing to share now days. Might prevent someone from blowing up an engine just to see a general timing curve shape. It's sad, I see some people self tuning their cars that tell me they added timing to the stock map under higher loads. Makes me cringe. I guess that keeps shops in business but jeez.
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Old 05-22-2013, 04:39 PM   #19
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Ed, isn't this the one that had the PE injectors and the Bosch 040 in it.
Totally forgot about this car. Still can't believe you just posted it.
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Ed, isn't this the one that had the PE injectors and the Bosch 040 in it.
Totally forgot about this car. Still can't believe you just posted it.
Yep that's the one... we ended up swapping out the injectors and crazy loud fuel pump. Actually didn't you tune this one? I'll update the OP.

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Yep that's the one... we ended up swapping out the injectors and crazy loud fuel pump. Actually didn't you tune this one? I'll update the OP.

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Yea I did
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Old 05-22-2013, 04:54 PM   #22
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Yea I did
Updated... gotta give credit where credit is due

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No wonder it made power lol Jk
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Old 05-22-2013, 04:56 PM   #24
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No wonder it made power lol Jk
Ouch that hurt

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