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Old 05-07-2013, 07:47 PM   #1
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I thought I would start a results thread for Kinugawa and KAMAK turbos for Subarus. I have found lots of positive feedback on these brands with people mentioning great results, but I would like to make an aggregated list of actual dyno results so that people who are researching these turbos can know what to expect.

In case you were unaware, KAMAK is a Taiwanese OE turbo manufacturer that also makes the Kinugawa brand, and their high-performance KAMAK brand of turbos. Their parts and CHRAs are found in many turbos made by other US turbo brands you probably have heard of and are already familiar with.

I know there is already a decent number of people running these turbos, especially in Asia and Europe, so let’s see your results!

KAMAK basically build all applicable sizes of turbos for Subarus from small the TD04H-13T up to TD06H-25Gs, in single and twin scroll stock configurations, so there is a lot of variety. KAMAK turbos are manufactured with billet wheels like most guys use now days with the modern aerodynamics, but they also have their intriguing and unique 9-blade STS turbines that most other turbos companies don’t have yet. The STS turbine wheels are most comparable to aerodynamics to the Garrett GTX turbines and spool and flow much better than the old style MHI turbines because of the reduced weight and increased surface area.

So, please post the entire gambit here. You don’t have to have a KAMAK 25G drift car making over 500 whp to be interesting, a fun TD04H-19T DD is really interesting too.

Post your dyno plot, which turbo you have with which upgrades (billet wheel, etc.), applicable supporting mods, etc. With all the variety of models here this is going to be very interesting.

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xluben's compiled list. Thanks!

Results List:

WHP / WTQ | 1/4 @ MPH | TURBO @ PSI | FUEL | VEHICLE | USERNAME | LINK

434 / 408 | XX.X @ XXX | TD06H 60-1 @ 24psi | 93 | 2006 STI | STi MAN86 | LINK
427 / 413 | XX.X @ XXX | STX 71 prototype @ 25psi | E85 | 2002 WRX | xluben | LINK
415 / 425 | XX.X @ XXX | TD06SL2 20G @ 21psi | 93 | 2009 WRX | 20wrx09 | LINK
398 / 388 | XX.X @ XXX | TD06H 20G @ 25psi | Meth | 2004 WRX | mod maniac | LINK
390 / 404 | XX.X @ XXX | TD05H 20G @ 20psi | E85 | 2007 STI | *Ulimited* | LINK
387 / 379 | XX.X @ XXX | TD05H 20G @ 24psi | Meth | 2003 STI | bhpsti | LINK
380 / 390 | XX.X @ XXX | TD05H 20G @ 20psi | 93 | 2007 STI | *Ulimited* | LINK
377 / 374 | 11.7 @ 116 | TD06SL2 20G @ 25psi | E85 | 99 Impreza | Fuji K | LINK
370 / 381 | XX.X @ XXX | TD06SL2 20G @ 19psi | 93 | 2011 WRX | ResidentR | LINK
370 / 370 | XX.X @ XXX | TD05H 18G @ ??psi | ?? | 2007 WRX | RallyImprezive | LINK
357 / 317 | XX.X @ XXX | TD06H 20G @ 27psi | 93 | 2003 STI | ElSpa | LINK
349 / 349 | XX.X @ XXX | TD06SL2 20G @ 19psi | 93 | 2006 STI | powerls | LINK
340 / 351 | XX.X @ XXX | TD05H 20G @ 19psi | 93 | 2013 WRX | Silviaspeck | LINK
324 / 332 | XX.X @ XXX | TD05H 18G @ 18psi | E50 | 2006 WRX | Ferraz | LINK
317 / 344 | XX.X @ XXX | TD06SL2 18G @ 19psi | 92 | 2006 WRX | drmichael | LINK
307 / 333 | XX.X @ XXX | TD05H 16G @ 22psi | 93 | 2008 WRX | chemtek| LINK
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Old 05-07-2013, 07:49 PM   #2
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One result using a small 20g:
Quote:
Originally Posted by *Ulimited* View Post
07 Sti, Kinugawa TD05 20g 7cm STS 9 blade wheel upgrade.

380hp 390tq at 20psi on 93 octane Dave Brown tuned, Mustang Dyno.

-Rallispec Block
-Process W...est TMIC
-Grimmspeed Uppipe w/ 38mm Tial EWG
-Perrin EQL Header
-Crawford AOS
-Turbosmart BOV
-ID1000cc Injectors+walboro 255
-Cobb Turbo back
-KS tech 73mm

Results are great! Exactly what I was looking for in an Autox build where spool is of great importance. Thanks for selling configurations of turbos other companies wonít.

Cant wait to see what it does on E85

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Old 05-07-2013, 07:52 PM   #3
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Another result using the bigger TD06SL2-20G with the stock exhaust.

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sorry for the poor photo quality. I'm certainly happy with the 349HP/349Trq figures, I do wish that it would have spooled a bit faster. Hill at Agile mentioned that I'm currently limited by my stock IC and exhaust.

Dynapack Dyno
EJ257
STI TD06SL2 20G 8cm housing w/IWG @19psi
Custom AP Tune
850cc
3in no cat DP
stock STI exhaust
stock STI TMIC
TGV Deletes
Forged Pistons
Stock STI Rods
Perrin Inlet Hose
Crawford AOS
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Old 05-07-2013, 07:57 PM   #4
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Small 20g on a ej207:
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I have just finished tuning my sti using the Carberry SD rom. Overall I found the car is a lot smoother using this rom compared to the MAF based tune. The tuning did take longer compared to the maf based rom with more logs required etc but overall itís not that bad.
Compared to my previous modified ADM 07 sti that was putting out similar power, this one revs out a lot better and can hit the 8.2k rpm limiter with ease. I have also owned a modified 04 ADM sti that used the EJ207 but didnít have the jdm big port heads which make a noticeable difference.

Event:Carberry SD Rom tuning
Location:North Island, New Zealand.
Ambient Temp:70
Elevation: N/A
Weather: Wet
Tires: Toyo, 225/45/17
Car: 2003, jdm V8 sti
Tuner: Myself
Dyno Info: VD dyno jet
Transmission: 6spd
Gear: 3rd
Peak HP at RPM: 387
Peak Torque at RPM: 379
Target Boost: 24psi tapering to 20psi
Target AFR: 11-11.1
Fuel: NZ pump fuel 98(Ron) 93 (mon) 50/50 meth/water

Engine/power modifications
2.0l JDM V8 EJ207
TD05-20g twin Scroll with Turbo Blanket
3" Catless Turbo Back Exhaust heat wrapped
ETS Tmic (08- sti model)
AUS injector 850cc
Walbro 255 fuel pump
Coolingmist meth/water inj
2.4" Silicon Intake
AEM CAI
AEM Uego
Grimmspeed EBCS/Manual bleed valve hybrid

Driveline Modifications: Std
Suspension Modifications: Lowered Springs


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Old 05-07-2013, 08:01 PM   #5
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TD06SL2-20g on a 2.2:
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SAME DAY DYNO
75* at DynoJet
80* at Mustang Dyno


Event: dyno pull
Location: Twin Cities, MN
Ambient Temp: 75*
Elevation: 800'
Weather: cool / Minnesota

Tires: Nitto NT01 235/40/17
Car: '99 Impreza L Sport Wagon STi
Tuner: Nuke Toonz
Dyno Info: DynoJet@MAPerformance / Mustang Dyno@RS Motors
Transmission: JDM 6spd stock gearset
Gear: 4th

DynoJet
Peak HP at RPM: 377.64whp@somewhere 5500-6500 (SAE corrected is 388ish)
Peak Torque at RPM: 374@4400 (SAE corrected is 385tqr)

Mustang
Peak HP at RPM: 336.1whp@6166 (SAE corrected is 358ish)
Peak Torque at RPM: 333.7@4628 (SAE corrected is 361trq)

Baseline hp/tq DynoJet / Mustang Dyno: stg2 STi 300whp / 275
Target Boost: 25peak tapering 21.5psi@8000
Target AFR: 11.5afr
Fuel: E85 ethanol

Engine/Power Modifications: '06 WRX TR engine swap&immobilized, EJ22T block, double cross drilled EJ205 crank, Eagle Rods, Cosworth main/rod bearings, Custom CP Pistons (9.0:1CR), 12mm oil pump, balanced internals, STOCK '07 WRX Heads, stock cams, Crower valve springs/retainers, stock valves, custom FobiaWRX 3" straight MAF pipe&cone filter, TGV-less, STOCK Turbo INLET, eBay TMIC, Forge BPV, Kinugawa TD06SL2 20G 8cm, 38mm Tial vBand Ver2 EWG@1.2bar spring, custom Fuji internal wastegate bracket, MBC, fobiaWRX SPECIAL headers, 3" DP & Invidia race catback, modded dark blue WRX 900cc injectors, custom in-tank Bosch 044 fuel pump,
Other Modifications: Nuke Tuned, Fuji driven, Fuji engine build, Fuji funds

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YouTube - 11.75@116.59mph
#43 - no I didn't steal Block's number... haha





YouTube- TD06SL2 20G 8cm


CORRECTED DynoJet



CORRECTED Mustang Dyno



oohhhhHHHH!!!!! How about AirBoy??

AirBoy Road Dyno as reference


DynoJet vs AirBoy


Mustang Dyno vs AirBoy
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:07 PM   #6
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A TD05H-18G form S„o Paulo:

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Event: E-tune
Location: S„o Paulo - Brazil
Ambient Temp: 80
Elevation: 2949 ft
Weather: cloudy
Tires: 215/45/17 Maxxis MA-Z1

Car: 06 WRX (SADM)
Tuner: Cameron - CAMtuning
Dyno Info: Airboy road dyno
Transmission: Stock 5spd
Gear: 3rd
Peak HP at RPM: 324whp @ 5960rpm
Peak Torque at RPM: 332wtq @ 4230 ish

Target Boost: 18psi ?
Target AFR: ?
Fuel: 100oct E50

Engine/Power Modifications:

Cobb TBE catted DP
Perrin Light weight pulley
STI top mount IC
DW 1000cc injectors
Kinugawa td05 18G 8cm
Perrin After MAF tube
K&N drop in filter
Grimmspeed Bost control solenoide
Walbro 255 fuel pump

TD05H-18g from S„o Paulo:
Transmission/Driveline:
Stock gears and clutch

I'm very happy with the result. My goal was around 300whp, as safe as possible. But I wanted a gradual/linear powerband... Almost NA power delivery. It is a little more explosive, but it feels very good!

Thanks Cameron!



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Old 05-07-2013, 08:08 PM   #7
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Here is a big 20G.
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Hi,

I finally managed to do a mustang dyno on my STI:

here it is:

EJ207 STI Stock internals
Fujita intake
SS headers + uppipe decat (equal length)
Ebay 3 " exhaust + downpipe

Ebay front mount (OBX or SS I think)
Phenolic spacers
Kinugawa TD06H-20G 8cm IWG
HKS SSQV
WALBRO 255LPH
780cc wrx modified injectors
DEVILS OWN STAGE 2 progressive water injection, dual injectors, before turbo and before throttle body (here meth is not legal, so Iím running windshield cleaner that is 45% meth)
Stage 3 Spec Clutch

Lighten pulley
MBC (Hallman)

Tuned by CAMERON (internet tune)
99+ octane fuel (here in Europe octane spec are different I think)
figures obtained at 26-27 psi.







going with a fp red, ewg and big maf next week.
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:10 PM   #8
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Several of these are older, so they don't even have the new billet compressor wheels, or the STS 9-blade turbine.

Looking forward to more results!
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Old 05-08-2013, 10:19 AM   #9
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I hope to post some results soon...

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Old 05-08-2013, 01:37 PM   #10
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I love threads where people post results.
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Old 05-08-2013, 08:02 PM   #11
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Here is an older KAMAK TD06SL2-18G. I believe this turbo predates the newer 9-blade turbine and billet compressor wheels.

Quote:
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Dyno Tune: 2.5L + Kamak PP TD06SL2-18G 8cm2 with a Dom tune.

Event: Dyno Tune
Location: Maxwell Power Services, Arlington WA
Ambient Temp: 70F 45% humidity
Elevation: 200 feet
Weather: sunny/warm
Tires: 225-45-17

Car: 2006 WRX with 70K miles
Tuner: Dominic Acia of Maxwell Power Services (DomTune)
Dyno Info: DynoCom
Transmission: 5spd/ stock gearset
Gear: 3rd
Peak HP at RPM: 317 HP @ 5950RPM
Peak Torque at RPM: 344ft.lbs @ 4400RPM
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: Not sure
Target Boost: 19.2psi
Target AFR:10.7
Fuel: WA 92 unleaded

Engine/Power Modifications:
- Kamak TD06SL2- 18G 8cm2
- STI TMIC
- Helix Catted DP
- Invidia G200 Catback
- GS Uppipe
- Gimmick Turbo Inlet
- DW 750 Injectors
- Walbro 255 fuel pump
- GS EBC

Driveline Modifications: stock 5 speed transmission & stock clutch

Suspension Modifications:

Tokico D-SPEC
Crucial Racing springs
Group-n mounts
Rallitek Swaybars (front and rear)

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Old 05-14-2013, 03:33 PM   #12
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One result using a small 20g:
Looking at everyone else’s results reaffirms my choice of turbo. So happy Kinugawa/Kamak offers so many sizing options, I don’t think you can buy a tD05 with a 7cm housing from anyone else these days for our cars. Full torque at 3500 rpms and holds over 350 wtq till 5500 rpms with the powerlevels I am attaining is exactly what I needed for my SM build.

On wastgate boost the car was spooling full torque at 3k rpms this thing flows very well

I forgot to list that I not only have the STS 9 blade exhaust wheel upgrade but also the billet compressor wheel

I'll post up my results from the E85 tune within a month or so
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Old 05-14-2013, 04:59 PM   #13
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^^^Dans car is nuts!^^^

Ill be putting one of these on very soon.

Ian,
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Old 05-15-2013, 08:09 PM   #14
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My turn
Dyno Tune: 2011 WRX w/Kamak TD06SL2-20G 8cm2, tuned by Moore Automotive in Fairfax, VA.

Event: Dyno Tune
Location: Moore Automotive, Fairfax, VA
Ambient Temp: 80F 50% humidity
Elevation: 312 feet
Weather: sunny/warm
Tires: 235-45-17

Car: 2011 WRX with 37K miles
Tuner: Chris of Moore Automotive
Dyno Info: Dynojet
Transmission: 5spd/ stock gearset
Gear: 3rd
Peak HP at RPM: 370 HP @ 5900RPM
Peak Torque at RPM: 381 ftlbs @ 4700RPM
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: Not sure
Target Boost: 19psi
Target AFR:11.2
Fuel: Sheetz 93

Engine/Power Modifications:
- Kamak TD06SL2- 20G 8cm2
- FMS FMIC
- ERZ Catted DP
- Invidia Q300 Catback
- AEM CAI
- Crawford AOS
- DW 1000 Injectors
- DW 65c fuel pump
- Grimmspeed EBCS
- Forge BPV
(Stock inlet, stock headers, stock TGVs)

Driveline Modifications:
Stock 5 speed transmission & stock clutch
Nearly all drivetrain mounts and bushings.

Suspension Modifications:
Whiteline 24mm/22mm F/R sways



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My turn

Peak HP at RPM: 370 HP @ 5900RPM
Peak Torque at RPM: 381 ftlbs @ 4700RPM
NICE RESULTS!!!! i bet your drive home was fun
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NICE RESULTS!!!! i bet your drive home was fun
no because there was so much fricking traffic everywhere, and at the one on-ramp I got to use, a cop pulled up in the lane next to me!

I am very happy with the turbo and the tune!
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:19 AM   #17
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Looks good man I bet with some e85 or meth you would crack 400whp!!!! I have the same turbo and love the way it feels as well.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:11 AM   #18
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I'm getting my SL2 tuned on saturday. Mod list looks almost identical to ResidentR but my motor has 120k on it. Should be interesting...
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Looks good man I bet with some e85 or meth you would crack 400whp!!!! I have the same turbo and love the way it feels as well.
With a boat load of TRQ!!!
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^^Nice numbers my part selection is almost identical to yours exception of a super ported stock EQ header.

Cannot wait till i can afford another blown motor and slap my SL2 onboard early next year.
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ResidentR did you have to do an air pump delete?
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ResidentR did you have to do an air pump delete?
Nope! Factory air pump is still in place.
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This is with the Kinugawa TD-06H 60-1 3" inlet 8cm

Event: E-Tuning
Location: Australia,
Ambient Temp: 75
Weather: Nice and sunny
Tires: 24.97
Car: 06 STi
Tuner: Johnson Tuning big shout out to Corbin
Dyno Info: VD dyno Jet
Transmission: 6spd
Gear: 4th
Peak HP at RPM: 434
Peak Torque at RPM: 408
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: unknown
Target Boost: 24psi
Target AFR: 11.1 Fuel: 93 Octane


Engine/Power Modifications:

2.5L EJ257
OEM Nitrated Crank
CP Pistons 99.5mm
Brian Crower I-Beam rods 1,000HP
ACL Race main and big end bearings
ARP CA625+ Head studs
Killer B Ultimate Oil Pickup
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Genuine OEM Subaru 2008 Sti Oil Pump Upgrade for EJ25 EJ257

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Camtec 272/268 Cams
Cosworth dual valve springs and retainers
Supertech 1mm Over sized valves inlet and exhaust, Black Nitride Coating
TK CNC race port inlet and exhaust including knife edged inlet port separators.

TD-06H 60-1 3" Inlet 8cm Turbo with Billet Actuator (Soon to be 35r 82.)
AVO Catch Can
AVO 73mm MAF intake
AVO Pod Filter #
AP 3" Turbo inlet pipe
APS 725 FMIC
Eboost 2
Tactrix openport 2.0
Innovative Wideband MTX-L
Omni 4bar map sensor
TGV DELETES
TBE 3" CES exhaust
Headers GT Spec Heat wrapped UE
Walbaro fuel pump 255l
Injectors ID 1,000cc
Split fuel rails
Sard Fuel pressure regulator
ACT HDSS - Heavy Duty with Street Disc Clutch Kit
NGK 1 step colder plugs
Cosworth Air Pump Plates
Turbosmart BOV plump back
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Old 06-19-2013, 02:45 AM   #24
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Here is a result from one of our customers from the UK on his UK-spec 2.0l STI. He is running the smaller KAMAK TD05H-20g with the billet compressor wheel and the STS 9-blade turbine.

----------------the review in his words------------------
Andy Forrest (THE MAN) mapped it this morning.

TD05H-20G Billet with STS 9 Blade Turbine
HRC 340l/hr Fuel Pump
3 Port Boost Solenoid
3" Straight through Decat Exhaust
K&N Panel Filter

Made 391 BHP and 368 lb.ft Torque. The car ran out of Air and Fuel, but the turbo was still going.

Andy thinks with FPR or bigger injectors and an induction kit I will see well over 400bhp. Cracking Turbo and plenty at the top end, was pulling strong well past 6500 RPM."



Here are some pictures







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Old 06-19-2013, 08:31 AM   #25
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Note the Ecutek graph above has been changed to give the owner a flywheel figure. That's what we prefer over here...
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