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Old 10-16-2010, 07:06 PM   #1476
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IMO, their porting isn't close to the best, at all. If you want it ported, send it to someone local or a vendor that does that service here (GrimmSpeed, among others).
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Old 10-17-2010, 03:14 AM   #1477
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Old 10-17-2010, 03:16 AM   #1478
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Best 60' for the day was a 1.86

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Old 10-17-2010, 10:38 AM   #1479
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^^^ with snow tires

probably a good way to save the drivetrain.
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Old 10-19-2010, 12:04 PM   #1480
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IMO, their porting isn't close to the best, at all. If you want it ported, send it to someone local or a vendor that does that service here (GrimmSpeed, among others).
Except that doesn't get his car back on the road. Blouch will rebuild a TD04. Grimm cannot rebuild.

Grimm has a good reputation, but be careful of local porting. I heard of some turbos ruined from really aggressive porting particularly regarding the wastegate.
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Old 10-19-2010, 03:48 PM   #1481
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i have a pnp turbo from blouch and have zero complaints. yes it might not be the max it can be ported but i think they have a pretty good idea of what they are doing. honestly you wont notice the difference between a pnp that is to the limit and one that is just done. the more you take out the more likely it is to cause the exhaust housing to crack. just my .02
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Old 10-19-2010, 04:14 PM   #1482
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I heard of some turbos ruined from really aggressive porting particularly regarding the wastegate.
There's lots of guides on where/what to port in the WG for various reasons. GrimmSpeed would know what to do IMO. There's even discussion on this lovely forum of ours, including where to port if suffering from boost creep etc.
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Old 11-01-2010, 11:39 AM   #1483
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I'm new here and this is actually my first post.

I've quickly read thru all 60 pages of this thread. I've been considering the 19T upgrade. Does Blouch still offer this upgrade? I know it was on their old website but not on their new site. I've sent them e-mails about turbo machine work and never heard anything back. I know it would probably be best to call but with the hours I work I don't have much time.
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Old 11-01-2010, 11:54 AM   #1484
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I'm new here and this is actually my first post.

I've quickly read thru all 60 pages of this thread. I've been considering the 19T upgrade. Does Blouch still offer this upgrade? I know it was on their old website but not on their new site. I've sent them e-mails about turbo machine work and never heard anything back. I know it would probably be best to call but with the hours I work I don't have much time.
If you go to your "user cp" you can edit your profile and view 50 posts per page instead of 25. Makes things a little easier to browse through at times...and this would be page 30 instead of 60 .

It seems no one ever has any luck emailing Blouch. You pretty much have to call on the phone to get a response. If they took it down off their website they my no longer be offering this modification. You'll have to call to find out.
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Old 11-01-2010, 11:59 AM   #1485
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If you go to your "user cp" you can edit your profile and view 50 posts per page instead of 25. Makes things a little easier to browse through at times...and this would be page 30 instead of 60 .

It seems no one ever has any luck emailing Blouch. You pretty much have to call on the phone to get a response. If they took it down off their website they my no longer be offering this modification. You'll have to call to find out.
Thanks, I'll have to change that. When I first started, I thought... 60 pages.....

I'll have to take a longer lunch one day and call them and see.

Thanks for the help
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Old 11-02-2010, 04:03 AM   #1486
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Thanks, I'll have to change that. When I first started, I thought... 60 pages.....

I'll have to take a longer lunch one day and call them and see.

Thanks for the help

Hope you wouldnt mind posting your findings, many, I'm sure, would appreciate it including myself. Thanks in advance.
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Old 11-04-2010, 03:58 PM   #1487
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Hope you wouldnt mind posting your findings, many, I'm sure, would appreciate it including myself. Thanks in advance.
Well I just got off the phone with Blouch Turbo. Really nice people there and honestly answered my questions with no run around.

With the 19T upgrade on the td04L, he said they still do it. The cost is $325 using a MHI wheel. The $325 upgrade cost is you using a brand new turbo. Using a used turbo will cost more, even a low mile turbo. He said anything thing could change the price on it. Things like a rebuild, worn bearings, turbine shaft wear, bearing housing wear. So it could cost upwards of $600 or so with some things being wrong.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:07 PM   #1488
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And at that price point some members have felt justified in moving to a small 16G turbo. Blouch sells them at around $650.
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Old 11-04-2010, 09:00 PM   #1489
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Well I just got off the phone with Blouch Turbo. Really nice people there and honestly answered my questions with no run around.

With the 19T upgrade on the td04L, he said they still do it. The cost is $325 using a MHI wheel. The $325 upgrade cost is you using a brand new turbo. Using a used turbo will cost more, even a low mile turbo. He said anything thing could change the price on it. Things like a rebuild, worn bearings, turbine shaft wear, bearing housing wear. So it could cost upwards of $600 or so with some things being wrong.
He may be saying that to give the worst case scenario. I think others in this thread have not had to replace parts.

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Old 11-05-2010, 04:01 AM   #1490
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i got one of the td05 16gxt and i have been super happy with it. full boost around 3800. a small 16g i think would be perfect for early spool and some top end. the 7cm^2 housing gives you alot more off boost tq and helps with city driving. get a little better millage cause its not so easy to get into boost while driving on surface streets. witch hunter mod'd stock injector are a huge bang for the buck and you shouldn't run outta duty cycle. i honestly think the best bang for the buck/daily driver turbo would be a small 16g. alot of people in here have found out that the lopsided comp wheel/exhaust wheel usually ends up being a headache. the 16g will do 15 to 22psi at around 3400rpm all day long for thousands of miles.

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Old 11-05-2010, 10:41 AM   #1491
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He may be saying that to give the worst case scenario. I think others in this thread have not had to replace parts.
Yea, I ask him and he said it would be 550-600 if they had to replace some stuff.
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Old 11-05-2010, 06:34 PM   #1492
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Well I just got off the phone with Blouch Turbo. Really nice people there and honestly answered my questions with no run around.

With the 19T upgrade on the td04L, he said they still do it. The cost is $325 using a MHI wheel. The $325 upgrade cost is you using a brand new turbo. Using a used turbo will cost more, even a low mile turbo. He said anything thing could change the price on it. Things like a rebuild, worn bearings, turbine shaft wear, bearing housing wear. So it could cost upwards of $600 or so with some things being wrong.
Thanks again for the info. Best of luck with all your plans.
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Old 11-09-2010, 01:19 PM   #1493
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Turboxs 4" DP
Custom 3" exhaust from DP back
Forester 4:11 tranny/rear diff swap
Running my 16" snows
Launch control set at 5250 building 6 psi

What kind of power are you putting to the ground? Seems like a pretty good ET, but the MPH just is too low for me to justify this mod. I really want a 105+ MPH capable car.

thanks in advance,
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Old 11-09-2010, 08:50 PM   #1494
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^^^No joke. That mph is pretty common for average stage 2 cars. I'd be pissed if I didn't gain 5mph+ with a turbo upgrade. However we don't know what he ran at stage 2, so that could be a decent time depending on elevation.

A 13.5xx @ 101.xx at bandimere speedway would be pretty impressive
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Old 12-30-2010, 10:23 AM   #1495
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Yep. Small 16g. Not sure on the lbs/min, but I can tell you that I was getting 4.5-4.52 mafv on a stock airbox/sensor/housing in the hot humid weather with a peak boost of 21 psi tapering down to 18 at redline. last night I had to be pulling a bit more than that although I wasn't logging that parameter.

this coming winter on a good DA day, I want to see how close to making out the maf I can get. I'm guessing I max out around 4.65 ish.
xsnapshot, Just out of curiosity, as I'm considering a small 16g for my 4eat car, are you running a stall converter? A qualitative question I know, but, what's your thoughts on lag over the stock td04 -vs- small 16g?
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Old 12-30-2010, 11:05 AM   #1496
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xsnapshot, Just out of curiosity, as I'm considering a small 16g for my 4eat car, are you running a stall converter? A qualitative question I know, but, what's your thoughts on lag over the stock td04 -vs- small 16g?
No stall converter here. From what I've experienced with my 4EAT EJ205, is that even with an MBC and tons of breather mods, the fastest I could get my stock turbo to spool up (21 psi) was ~3300 RPM in 2nd gear. (because the TC is slipping until it reaches its stall RPM) My small 16G hits 21 psi by 3700 RPM in 2nd gear. So there is about 400 RPM difference to reaching the same manifold pressure.

However, looking at the mafV differences, I was only moving slightly more air from~3000-3500 RPM. After that, the small 16G catches and then passes the TD04L-13T.

While there is 400 RPM difference in manifold pressure targets, the actual lag is not 400 RPM. Maybe 200-300 RPM. I honestly would never go back now. I can still brake boost it, and am getting a solid 4.6+ mafV out of it in this cold weather. The best my TD04L-13T could do was 4.38 on a zero degree day.

A stall converter would be nice for sure, and would make for some hard launches, but i don't think its necessary with the small 16G.
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Old 12-30-2010, 11:47 AM   #1497
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^Awesome. thanks for the information (and a minor ot hijack)!
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Old 12-31-2010, 02:47 AM   #1498
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emailed blouche about doing this, and no reply as of yet
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Old 12-31-2010, 04:42 PM   #1499
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emailed blouche about doing this, and no reply as of yet
Others have had bad luck with emailing blouche. They had great luck calling them. So don't get discouraged, just give them a shout on the phone and keep us posted!

hope this helps,
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We still offer the 19T service on the WRX turbocharger. Send in your good TD04 with contact info inside the box. Turn around is 7-10 days

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