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Old 10-27-2008, 01:37 PM   #1
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Default bad idea to torque down lugs with cheater bar?

i don't own a torque wrench, so i've always just used a 2 foot long cheater bar. someone just warned me about over torquing the lugs because of how much force im imparting with the cheater bar (because it might strip the lugs?)

is that something i should worry about? right now im about to use the stock lugs to put the stock wheels back on if that makes a difference
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Old 10-27-2008, 01:41 PM   #2
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I would worry about over torquing and breaking the studs. It would take some work , but it's possible. buy a cheap torque wrench, or just get used to the "feel" of the right torque for the lugs.
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Old 10-27-2008, 02:09 PM   #3
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You can get a lug-nut worthy torque wrench for $10 from Harbor Freight...really no excuse not to have one.
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Old 10-27-2008, 02:12 PM   #4
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Or use a smaller wrench. Our cars only call for ~65 ft/lbs, which would be very easy to exceed with a breaker bar.

Remember that the more you tighten a bolt, the less strength it has.


Tirerack sells a decent torque wrench for 30 bucks or so. Buy one and you won't have to worry about it.
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Old 10-27-2008, 02:16 PM   #5
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It'll be very easy to strip with a 2ft bar unless you don't tighten them down much. Ive stripped some with a large 18in wrench before and generally just use an 8in wrench and go 90% as tight as I can go, or break out the torque wrench.
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Old 10-27-2008, 02:33 PM   #6
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Yeah, buy a torque wrench. It's an investment that is way cheaper than spending hours on replacing studs. Best $ spent for any car enthusiast.
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yeah if your using a 2 foot extension and just torquing the crap out of them that is not good
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i don't own a torque wrench, so i've always just used a 2 foot long cheater bar. someone just warned me about over torquing the lugs because of how much force im imparting with the cheater bar (because it might strip the lugs?)

is that something i should worry about? right now im about to use the stock lugs to put the stock wheels back on if that makes a difference


75ft-lbs is about right

you are likely using 150 or more

get a torque wrench

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...itemnumber=239

oh yeah....your lugs are likely stretched all to hell and wont hold now at the correct torque....you are almost certainly going to have loosening issues until you replace all the studs
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