Agile Tuned '06 Sti 536ft/lbs 539whp - Page 2

Boxer4u · 11-07-2008, 05:34 PM

Great numbers!! What cams were used with this setup? Why does torque fall off so quickly after 4750 rpm?

That must feel like a fricken rocket!!

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Wrx_Fan_0717 · 11-07-2008, 07:24 PM

Wow must be fun to drive.

enozto · 11-07-2008, 08:03 PM

quick as hell!

PPhilthy · 11-08-2008, 09:18 AM

Going to pick up the car today from Hill - stay tuned for vids and more pics...

Hill and the whole crew at Agile Auto have provided me with years of excellent customer service! I want to thank them again for taking great care of my Subi and being extremely tolerant of my boost addiction... Hill has been modding my car since I purchased it new in 2006 and it just keeps getting faster and faster...

Based on what Hill has told me about the cars performance and looking at the dyno charts it should be a fun car to driver, I'll let you know later tonight

Some naked pics of the build for your enjoyment...

Special thanks to Ron @ Raw Performance for a killer Signature series block short block, Dave from HeadGames Motorworks for the most amazing head work, Geoff from Full-Race for building the baddest Subi manifold on earth and Robi from Robispec for the chasis and suspension package!

PPhilthy · 11-08-2008, 09:20 AM

PPhilthy · 11-08-2008, 09:21 AM

TAPOUT · 11-08-2008, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boxer4u

Great numbers!! What cams were used with this setup? Why does torque fall off so quickly after 4750 rpm?

That must feel like a fricken rocket!!

The torque always falls off quickly on big turbo cars right after peak.

Nice build, what I want to know is whether the car has stock sized valves and why the power is falling off at 6000 rpm. If it has heads and cams, it should make power at least to 7K before tapering, and you should be running the car to 7500-8K. That power band looks alot like what I had with my stock cams before changing to Kelford .264's. Did Hill do any AVCS adjustments? Also, what's with the peak power at 80 MPH? Tuned in 3rd gear? Load changes as you move into higher gears, I hope you don't overboost in 5th gear on the highway.

CatfaceType-R · 11-08-2008, 10:41 AM

^^^odd set of questions..why would he be tuned in 3rd anyway?

wrxwhat · 11-08-2008, 11:29 AM

Oh no, Philthy invading the Subaru crew?

jordanretro1223 · 11-08-2008, 12:42 PM

I'm pretty sure Hill does mostly 4th gear pulls when he dynos.

Correct me if I'm wrong ppl...

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAPOUT

The torque always falls off quickly on big turbo cars right after peak.

Nice build, what I want to know is whether the car has stock sized valves and why the power is falling off at 6000 rpm. If it has heads and cams, it should make power at least to 7K before tapering, and you should be running the car to 7500-8K. That power band looks alot like what I had with my stock cams before changing to Kelford .264's. Did Hill do any AVCS adjustments? Also, what's with the peak power at 80 MPH? Tuned in 3rd gear? Load changes as you move into higher gears, I hope you don't overboost in 5th gear on the highway.

In the mod list for the car on the first page it says no AVCS...

PPhilthy · 11-08-2008, 07:00 PM

The cams are Kelford race cams, 282's and the valvetrain is Ferrea with stock size valves - I can ask Dave to comment on the heads if you guys want to get into a deep technical discussion, but my request was for a roadrace setup that would not be lazy on the street, based on those requirements Dave recommended we use the stock size valves...

Hill can comment on his tuning methods, but I can tell you that there's no over boosting - I've tested all gears on the way home

john 1badSTI · 11-08-2008, 09:00 PM

which head gskts did Ron recommend to use with the o-ringed block and how thick of o-ring did he use.

PPhilthy · 11-08-2008, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john 1badSTI

which head gskts did Ron recommend to use with the o-ringed block and how thick of o-ring did he use.

Both good questions, I don't remember - I'll call Ron on Monday and ask him...

john 1badSTI · 11-08-2008, 09:29 PM

Thanks I appreciate the info--I have totally pushed the stock sleeved block to its limits and its time to get serious and I really liked the o-ring job done on your block.Your motor is super clean looking I hope it does everything you need it to do.

TAPOUT · 11-09-2008, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordanretro1223

I'm pretty sure Hill does mostly 4th gear pulls when he dynos.

Correct me if I'm wrong ppl...

In the mod list for the car on the first page it says no AVCS...

I missed the no AVCS, and apparently I wasn't thinking about the car being an 04 with shorter gears, since I am running to ~96mph in 3rd at 8K and 128 in 4th. Sometimes you post funny things when you are tired. I hope to see the car at MIR tomorrow!

jordanretro1223 · 11-09-2008, 01:29 AM

^^^Yeah our 07 gears are nice, haha.

PPhilthy · 11-09-2008, 08:17 AM

The car is an 06 - the 07 gears are definitely a more ideal ratio IMO... I have plans to switch over to them once my tranny needs to be rebuilt - as of right now it's in perfect shape so that mod will be coming sometime in the future...

remowgn · 11-09-2008, 04:57 PM

I think you would pick up a lot of power if you went to a "real" 35r. Power should not be falling off like that with cams that huge and head work. As others have said, you should be able to make good power to 7k+ with cams that hot.

zeropsi · 11-09-2008, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by remowgn

I think you would pick up a lot of power if you went to a "real" 35r. Power should not be falling off like that with cams that huge and head work. As others have said, you should be able to make good power to 7k+ with cams that hot.

Agreed.
The stock location is holding it back a bit with the inlet and exhaust housing. The peak numbers look great, but it's not holding it as I would have hoped.

jordanretro1223 · 11-09-2008, 05:51 PM

PPhilthy, are you coming down the Agile's fall open house next Saturday?

PPhilthy · 11-09-2008, 05:52 PM

Next step for me is the Full-Race 40r... Geoff is selling these turbos and wanted to get some real world test data and here it is... It's a great turbo for the stock location!

PPhilthy · 11-09-2008, 06:17 PM

One other note - I just looked at a couple of rotated 35r setups that have been posted, Melo, ScubaSteve, etc... If you over lay my numbers on their charts (scaling) I'm spooling a lot faster than the both of them, make just about same peak power and all the setups dynos fall off at the same points... Interesting...

I think their shall be improvement in carrying power out on all setups with a better designed intake manifold over the stock one, something like the new Cosworth...

PPhilthy · 11-09-2008, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordanretro1223

PPhilthy, are you coming down the Agile's fall open house next Saturday?

I'm pretty sure I'll be down, for a couple of hours at least...

SW00P_G · 11-10-2008, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PPhilthy

One other note - I just looked at a couple of rotated 35r setups that have been posted, Melo, ScubaSteve, etc... If you over lay my numbers on their charts (scaling) I'm spooling a lot faster than the both of them, make just about same peak power and all the setups dynos fall off at the same points... Interesting...

I think their shall be improvement in carrying power out on all setups with a better designed intake manifold over the stock one, something like the new Cosworth...

+1 waiting for data on the new intake manifolds!

nice numbers though!!!

My thoughts are since the 282's are in there they need MORE intake and exhaust flow than the 272 or 278 duration cams that most people run. That's why the power peaks at 6k and makes more torque than most others. It's flowing like crazy at the beginning and choking up at the finsh. I bet there is still plenty of power to be had with this setup.

bmw50021 · 11-10-2008, 03:19 PM

wow that is a sweet turbo!!!

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11-07-2008, 05:34 PM	#26
Boxer4u Scooby Specialist Member#: 115149 Join Date: May 2006 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Antioch, IL Vehicle: 07 STI Murdered & Loud	Great numbers!! What cams were used with this setup? Why does torque fall off so quickly after 4750 rpm? That must feel like a fricken rocket!! * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

11-07-2008, 07:24 PM	#27
Wrx_Fan_0717 Scooby Specialist Member#: 152080 Join Date: Jun 2007 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Pensacola, FL Vehicle: 6266 Precision'd Big Cam'd 2.55l 6spd Bugeye	Wow must be fun to drive.

11-07-2008, 08:03 PM	#28
enozto Scooby Newbie Member#: 32122 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: nj Vehicle: 09 Kuota	quick as hell!

11-08-2008, 09:18 AM	#29
PPhilthy Scooby Newbie Member#: 102948 Join Date: Dec 2005 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NJ Vehicle: 2006 STI	Going to pick up the car today from Hill - stay tuned for vids and more pics... Hill and the whole crew at Agile Auto have provided me with years of excellent customer service! I want to thank them again for taking great care of my Subi and being extremely tolerant of my boost addiction... Hill has been modding my car since I purchased it new in 2006 and it just keeps getting faster and faster... Based on what Hill has told me about the cars performance and looking at the dyno charts it should be a fun car to driver, I'll let you know later tonight Some naked pics of the build for your enjoyment... Special thanks to Ron @ Raw Performance for a killer Signature series block short block, Dave from HeadGames Motorworks for the most amazing head work, Geoff from Full-Race for building the baddest Subi manifold on earth and Robi from Robispec for the chasis and suspension package!

11-08-2008, 09:20 AM	#30
PPhilthy Scooby Newbie Member#: 102948 Join Date: Dec 2005 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NJ Vehicle: 2006 STI

11-08-2008, 09:21 AM	#31
PPhilthy Scooby Newbie Member#: 102948 Join Date: Dec 2005 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NJ Vehicle: 2006 STI

11-08-2008, 10:41 AM	#33
CatfaceType-R NASIOC Supporter Member#: 81102 Join Date: Feb 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC	^^^odd set of questions..why would he be tuned in 3rd anyway?

11-08-2008, 11:29 AM	#34
wrxwhat Scooby Specialist Member#: 87653 Join Date: May 2005 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Orlando, FL Vehicle: 07 STI / 97 Supra 1700whp of fun	Oh no, Philthy invading the Subaru crew?

11-08-2008, 07:00 PM	#36
PPhilthy Scooby Newbie Member#: 102948 Join Date: Dec 2005 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NJ Vehicle: 2006 STI	The cams are Kelford race cams, 282's and the valvetrain is Ferrea with stock size valves - I can ask Dave to comment on the heads if you guys want to get into a deep technical discussion, but my request was for a roadrace setup that would not be lazy on the street, based on those requirements Dave recommended we use the stock size valves... Hill can comment on his tuning methods, but I can tell you that there's no over boosting - I've tested all gears on the way home

11-08-2008, 09:00 PM	#37
john 1badSTI Scooby Specialist Member#: 77470 Join Date: Dec 2004 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: grove city ohio Vehicle: 04 sti 10.51@138.5 on e85@ 30psi--spinning	which head gskts did Ron recommend to use with the o-ringed block and how thick of o-ring did he use.

11-08-2008, 09:29 PM	#39
john 1badSTI Scooby Specialist Member#: 77470 Join Date: Dec 2004 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: grove city ohio Vehicle: 04 sti 10.51@138.5 on e85@ 30psi--spinning	Thanks I appreciate the info--I have totally pushed the stock sleeved block to its limits and its time to get serious and I really liked the o-ring job done on your block.Your motor is super clean looking I hope it does everything you need it to do.

11-09-2008, 01:29 AM	#41
jordanretro1223 Scooby Guru Member#: 143039 Join Date: Mar 2007 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Delaware Vehicle: 2007 STI Satin White Pearl	^^^Yeah our 07 gears are nice, haha.

11-09-2008, 08:17 AM	#42
PPhilthy Scooby Newbie Member#: 102948 Join Date: Dec 2005 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NJ Vehicle: 2006 STI	The car is an 06 - the 07 gears are definitely a more ideal ratio IMO... I have plans to switch over to them once my tranny needs to be rebuilt - as of right now it's in perfect shape so that mod will be coming sometime in the future...

11-09-2008, 04:57 PM	#43
remowgn Scooby Specialist Member#: 41149 Join Date: Aug 2003 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Orange, CA Vehicle: 04 09 FXT SSM	I think you would pick up a lot of power if you went to a "real" 35r. Power should not be falling off like that with cams that huge and head work. As others have said, you should be able to make good power to 7k+ with cams that hot.

11-09-2008, 05:51 PM	#45
jordanretro1223 Scooby Guru Member#: 143039 Join Date: Mar 2007 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Delaware Vehicle: 2007 STI Satin White Pearl	PPhilthy, are you coming down the Agile's fall open house next Saturday?

11-09-2008, 05:52 PM	#46
PPhilthy Scooby Newbie Member#: 102948 Join Date: Dec 2005 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NJ Vehicle: 2006 STI	Next step for me is the Full-Race 40r... Geoff is selling these turbos and wanted to get some real world test data and here it is... It's a great turbo for the stock location!

11-09-2008, 06:17 PM	#47
PPhilthy Scooby Newbie Member#: 102948 Join Date: Dec 2005 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NJ Vehicle: 2006 STI	One other note - I just looked at a couple of rotated 35r setups that have been posted, Melo, ScubaSteve, etc... If you over lay my numbers on their charts (scaling) I'm spooling a lot faster than the both of them, make just about same peak power and all the setups dynos fall off at the same points... Interesting... I think their shall be improvement in carrying power out on all setups with a better designed intake manifold over the stock one, something like the new Cosworth...

11-10-2008, 03:19 PM	#50
bmw50021 Scooby Specialist Member#: 122393 Join Date: Aug 2006 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Wayne, NJ Vehicle: 02 WRX WRB	wow that is a sweet turbo!!!