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Old 11-17-2008, 07:12 PM   #76
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Old 11-17-2008, 08:47 PM   #77
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Old 11-17-2008, 09:21 PM   #78
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How do you Like the AEM for the STI?
Overall I like it... I noticed that the airbag light comes on sometimes for no reason, I think it maybe something AEM related... You get the typical AEM start up, crank, crank, crank, start... same thing on my daily EVO and had the same condition on my old Supra both with AEM...
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Old 11-17-2008, 10:58 PM   #79
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Old 11-18-2008, 12:31 AM   #80
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Overall I like it... I noticed that the airbag light comes on sometimes for no reason, I think it maybe something AEM related... You get the typical AEM start up, crank, crank, crank, start... same thing on my daily EVO and had the same condition on my old Supra both with AEM...
thats cool i have a similar issue with the hydra i have a early version, I`am having a hard time deciding between the AEM and the New Hydra 2.6v..

Its good to see more people using the aem and making good power!!
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Old 11-20-2008, 10:35 AM   #81
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I would be lying if I didn't say I was a little let down with the setup. Ported heads and larger cams should not be falling off up top, and its laggy.
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Old 11-20-2008, 12:15 PM   #82
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I would be lying if I didn't say I was a little let down with the setup. Ported heads and larger cams should not be falling off up top, and its laggy.
Power fall off up top is related to the stock intake manifold... I'll be testing out the new Cosworth soon before moving to the Full-Race 40R kit...

As for 'laggy' is spools just as fast or not faster than any other 35r kit (rotated or not) posted on this forum, Topspeed kits included
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Old 11-20-2008, 01:18 PM   #83
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Power fall off up top is related to the stock intake manifold...
Yeah, and don't forget the fact that there isn't a stock location turbo available that'll hold power like that up top.


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As for 'laggy' is spools just as fast or not faster than any other 35r kit (rotated or not) posted on this forum, Topspeed kits included
For proof, check out TAPOUT's graph. I'm not ripping on his tune or his setup. I've seen the proof that it works (and quite well) in other threads. Just using it for comparison sake. PPhilthy hits 400 wtq about 500 rpm EARLIER than him.

FWIW, just about every big turbo car looks laggy on agile's dyno to me. Just the way the dyno loads it. I'd venture to guess this car hits full boost in the early 4k's on the street.

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Old 11-20-2008, 02:13 PM   #84
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Power fall off up top is related to the stock intake manifold... I'll be testing out the new Cosworth soon before moving to the Full-Race 40R kit...

As for 'laggy' is spools just as fast or not faster than any other 35r kit (rotated or not) posted on this forum, Topspeed kits included
Are you planning on posting some graphs and data for the intake manifold swap with this same turbo setup? I would appriciate that.
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Old 11-20-2008, 02:18 PM   #85
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Are you planning on posting some graphs and data for the intake manifold swap with this same turbo setup? I would appriciate that.
Absolutely - I want to maximize this setup, before moving on to bigger things...
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:01 PM   #86
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:18 PM   #87
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Power fall off up top is related to the stock intake manifold... I'll be testing out the new Cosworth soon before moving to the Full-Race 40R kit...
did you guys play with cams timing at all?
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:34 PM   #88
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Power fall off up top is related to the stock intake manifold... I'll be testing out the new Cosworth soon before moving to the Full-Race 40R kit...

As for 'laggy' is spools just as fast or not faster than any other 35r kit (rotated or not) posted on this forum, Topspeed kits included
Not trying to stat anything, but fwiw.


Full boost 35r by 4k rpms, 350tq@3600rpms
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:48 PM   #89
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Power fall off up top is related to the stock intake manifold... I'll be testing out the new Cosworth soon before moving to the Full-Race 40R kit...
Weird, I have made 580 and had 570@ redline(7800) with a 35r, and with 620whp ended up @ 600whp by 8000 as well..

I wouldn't blame the intake manifold.
Also with all the new "billet" wheel turbos popping up I wouldn't bother wasting money on a 40r.. You can spool faster and make just as much with an hta86
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Not trying to stat anything, but fwiw.


Full boost 35r by 4k rpms, 350tq@3600rpms
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1549476
Here at Top Speed, our fully optimized race car performs better than your street car, and we're not above letting you know.

And since we're not comparing apples to apples, PPhilthy's car made more power and torque than yours.
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Old 11-20-2008, 05:23 PM   #91
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Here at Top Speed, our fully optimized race car performs better than your street car, and we're not above letting you know.

And since we're not comparing apples to apples, PPhilthy's car made more power and torque than yours.

Haha...


I was going to write a reply, but its not worth it.

Sorry for crapping in your thread PPhilthy
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And since we're not comparing apples to apples, PPhilthy's car made more power and torque than yours.
Its also on a bit of a penis pump dyno...doug's engine is also not really any different from this, aside from builder. they are also using stock ECU and AP...so it could very much so be a street motor.


now Doug, you guys are also running AVCS...he is not!! hence my question about cam timing. You can use them to make it spool or to hold the top end up....you know that



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Not trying to stat anything, but fwiw.


Full boost 35r by 4k rpms, 350tq@3600rpms
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1549476
lol - oh Doug... Take a look at your setup, and my setup... You have a couple hundred rpm faster spool which is definitely because of your intercooler setup - if I want to sacrifice AC and a bunch of other every day driving comforts I would, but not willing to make the trade off... Also, I'm willing to bet you $400 credit for nanoquench that I've been waiting for months that a Cosworth, Mangus, or even your design intake manifold will help power carry out more...

All in all looking at your race car setup vs my off the self parts, bolt on turbo setup makes me proud!

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Weird, I have made 580 and had 570@ redline(7800) with a 35r, and with 620whp ended up @ 600whp by 8000 as well..

I wouldn't blame the intake manifold.
Also with all the new "billet" wheel turbos popping up I wouldn't bother wasting money on a 40r.. You can spool faster and make just as much with an hta86
Word, I'm told you can turn water into wine too on your dyno

I'm making the trip up to the EFI dyno day in CT this Sunday - why don't you bring your 35r setup with a stock manifold and let's see that bad boy make 620whp at 8000rpms...
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Old 11-20-2008, 10:30 PM   #96
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I have made 580 and had 570@ redline(7800) with a 35r, and with 620whp ended up @ 600whp by 8000 as well...Also with all the new "billet" wheel turbos popping up I wouldn't bother wasting money on a 40r.. You can spool faster and make just as much with an hta86
prove it, bring the car to the dyno event on sunday, ill be there

btw if you think an hta86 will outperform a 40R, you have a fundamental lack of understanding about turbocharger dynamics. billet wheels dont mean sh~t
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All in all looking at your race car setup vs my off the self parts, bolt on turbo setup makes me proud!
As long as your happy with it thats all that matters I guess.
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Word, I'm told you can turn water into wine too on your dyno

I'm making the trip up to the EFI dyno day in CT this Sunday - why don't you bring your 35r setup with a stock manifold and let's see that bad boy make 620whp at 8000rpms...
Na no dyno for me... I think I have proven myself a few times over. Besides, the car is getting teh hta86 and new long ratio trans as we speak, so its not ready for any action
water to wine, blah blah blah.. It also turns those dyno numbers into time slips...

Since you are going to be around, why not test out that 540whp race against my 440whp pumpgas GC ?? You got me covered by 100whp!!! You should take me right out!


Im also going to venture out to say that your car will barely touch 500whp on the mustang dyno.


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prove it, bring the car to the dyno event on sunday, ill be there

btw if you think an hta86 will outperform a 40R, you have a fundamental lack of understanding about turbocharger dynamics. billet wheels dont mean sh~t
You prove it... Show me 1 40r powered evo/sti that has gone as FAST as Buschur's street car RS... 9.0@159mph
**** show me 1 40r anything that has gone that fast.
Turbocharger dynamics.. Im lacking in that.. but I also dyno tune alot of diffrent setups, and I can only go on what I have seen.

BTW, You make a great t3 Header for the EVO, pumpgas and the BR FS635 netted me some very nice numbers..
495 on race gas with the bolt on 3065r = 129 traps
560 on straight 93 with 8psi less and 200 rpms of faster spool..
for that Header, worked AWESOME!
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waiting for months that a Cosworth, Mangus, or even your design intake manifold will help power carry out more...

I wouldnt argue this either, but thats not what is being pointed out.
I doubt your 40whp loss in 800rpm is from the intake.. Probably more to do with the back housing on the turbo.
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Na no dyno for me... I think I have proven myself a few times over. Besides, the car is getting teh hta86 and new long ratio trans as we speak, so its not ready for any action
water to wine, blah blah blah.. It also turns those dyno numbers into time slips...
I figured as much...
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