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Old 04-15-2014, 11:05 AM   #1
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I have a 2014 wrx hatch. Current parts are cobb accessport, cobb sf intake, gfb hybrid bov, tsudo 3in catless dp, tsudo 3in catback exhaust. I'm currently tuned to stage 2+ and considering getting a fmic. Already priced a few kits that include intercooler and piping. What all will I have to change to so the install?
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:07 AM   #2
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Your wasting your money. You do not need a front mount on the stock turbo.
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:09 AM   #3
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What route do you suggest I go then?
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:12 AM   #4
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Unless you plan on upgrading the turbo sometime on the near future just go with a bigger top mount.
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:12 AM   #5
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That's not entirely true.

What are your end goals? Larger turbo, E85, etc?

I ran a FMIC on a stock turbo and it was perfectly fine. There was no more noticeable lag or anything like that.

The VF52 is not a TD04, it flows enough to warrant a FMIC.
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:15 AM   #6
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I intend on getting a bigger turbo maybe this time next year. I just took the temp tags off last night.
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:18 AM   #7
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Get the FMIC and it'll be fine. Don't waste the money on a TMIC now to go FMIC later.
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:22 AM   #8
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1. STOP researching modifications to your car that cost $XXXX on your damn phone.
2. Read the sticky threads at the top of this forum BEFORE posting.
3. Fill out http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/usercp.php? completely.
4. Go to your local forum and engage locals as generally local advice > internet asshats.
5. Realize that bolting things to your car willy/nilly can result in your engine exploding and a new motor is $5000 minimum....you need to temper all your searching to this premise as you've made no mention of tuning or a tuner which can help mitigate failure and purchase suitable modifications.
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:22 AM   #9
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Just buy the FMIC man if you want it then you buy it. How big of a turbo you looking at? What's your goals? A tmic might be more well suited to you
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:27 AM   #10
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I'm not 100% sure how big I will go. Only had the car a month. Just looking at different options. I'm gonna take it to a local shop next month and have it dyno tuned. I like the maps on my accessport but I think I'll be better off with a custom map
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:56 AM   #11
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I'm not 100% sure how big I will go. Only had the car a month. Just looking at different options. I'm gonna take it to a local shop next month and have it dyno tuned. I like the maps on my accessport but I think I'll be better off with a custom map
If you will be under 500 whp then a TMIC will cover you just fine. The Grimmspeed unit is good til 550 they claim anyways.
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Old 04-15-2014, 01:33 PM   #12
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+2 to TMIC. OEM is good till about 18.5 PSI then the ends have been known to separate. Speaking from exp a FMIC will be slow to boost down low but hold a bit more up top on the VF52. Buddy regretted going FM vs TM on his stock VF

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Old 04-15-2014, 05:48 PM   #13
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If you will be under 500 whp then a TMIC will cover you just fine. The Grimmspeed unit is good til 550 they claim anyways.
Does Grimmspeed have a TMIC for a 2014 WRX yet?

I think not.
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Old 04-15-2014, 07:09 PM   #14
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TMIC, but any shred of research would show you why.
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Old 04-15-2014, 07:17 PM   #15
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Wow, didn't realize how tacky some people can be.......this place is intended as advice and help, not bashing. Looks like some people offer good advice and good questions that lead to answers for this guy's question of going to a fmic or not. Others up above, not so much. Go on dude ask your questions, get your advice, and happy driving. After all it's your car.
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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=532948 FMIC FAQ
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=529972 TMIC FAQ

Yes, we encourage technical talk here. Not a thread asking what is needed to install, as each have instructions online. And the fact that TMIC vs. FMIC has been debated thousands of times over the past 12 years.

Chapareeno do you have anything to add? OR are you simply trying to start an argument and white knight?
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Old 04-15-2014, 10:05 PM   #17
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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=532948 FMIC FAQ
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=529972 TMIC FAQ

Yes, we encourage technical talk here. Not a thread asking what is needed to install, as each have instructions online. And the fact that TMIC vs. FMIC has been debated thousands of times over the past 12 years.

Chapareeno do you have anything to add? OR are you simply trying to start an argument and white knight?
Since neither of your two threads posted address 2014 vehicles I believe the OP is fine with his post. Who cares if its been asked a million times, this is an online forum intended for community answers and respect if I am correct. Some people enjoy a direct answer to their question MAYBE there is some updated information that isn't posted anywhere else. Some users take this place to heart and act like its a dying sin to ask a question thats already been asked. Ask away my friend, who cares. Asking if he needs to modify anything in the engine bay to accommodate a new TMIC would be technical if you ask me.
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Old 04-15-2014, 10:17 PM   #18
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Since neither of your two threads posted address 2014 vehicles I believe the OP is fine with his post. Who cares if its been asked a million times, this is an online forum intended for community answers and respect if I am correct. Some people enjoy a direct answer to their question MAYBE there is some updated information that isn't posted anywhere else. Some users take this place to heart and act like its a dying sin to ask a question thats already been asked. Ask away my friend, who cares. Asking if he needs to modify anything in the engine bay to accommodate a new TMIC would be technical if you ask me.
However new information may be available for some things, Unabomber and others spent many hours putting together these wonderful educational threads. It's like a well cataloged library, years of info consolidated in one area. The laws of thermodynamics aren't going to change to accommodate a new car model.
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However new information may be available for some things, Unabomber and others spent many hours putting together these wonderful educational threads. It's like a well cataloged library, years of info consolidated in one area. The laws of thermodynamics aren't going to change to accommodate a new car model.
Correct, its great information BUT the OP asked about specific details for install in his vehicle so that can/has changed from previous model years. How the part works was never in question.
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Old 04-16-2014, 11:33 AM   #20
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My primary worry is that if I get this fmic then I will have to get a new intake. I haven't saw anything about fitment around the cobb sf intake
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+2 to TMIC. OEM is good till about 18.5 PSI then the ends have been known to separate. Speaking from exp a FMIC will be slow to boost down low but hold a bit more up top on the VF52. Buddy regretted going FM vs TM on his stock VF

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This is just ridiculous. That's not true, the difference is so negligible it's not even worth mentioning. It's in his head, dyno's prove it. The difference in spool is 200-300RPM, daily driving that's basically nothing.

If you plan on going bigger get a FMIC.

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My primary worry is that if I get this fmic then I will have to get a new intake. I haven't saw anything about fitment around the cobb sf intake
Yes you will, no it won't fit.
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Correct, its great information BUT the OP asked about specific details for install in his vehicle so that can/has changed from previous model years. How the part works was never in question.
2014 is the same as 2009 for all purposes mechanically. Therefore the links posted still work just fine.

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2014 is the same as 2009 for all purposes mechanically. Therefore the links posted still work just fine.

Is there not any subtle differences? I am almost positive they're not the exact same. Your link also doesn't give very much info for 09+ mostly for 02-07. We can argue all day and its fine with me but its stupid to give flack to someone who is just seeking information. Thats what this place is for so have fun eating your popcorn bud.
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Is there not any subtle differences? I am almost positive they're not the exact same. Your link also doesn't give very much info for 09+ mostly for 02-07. We can argue all day and its fine with me but its stupid to give flack to someone who is just seeking information. Thats what this place is for so have fun eating your popcorn bud.
However ridiculous threads make it harder to search reliable proven threads unless they're sickied or FAQs.
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Old 04-16-2014, 01:16 PM   #25
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Is there not any subtle differences? I am almost positive they're not the exact same. Your link also doesn't give very much info for 09+ mostly for 02-07. We can argue all day and its fine with me but its stupid to give flack to someone who is just seeking information. Thats what this place is for so have fun eating your popcorn bud.
In terms of the motor/ turbo they are 100% the same from 09-14
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