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Old 03-24-2002, 02:42 PM   #1
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Default Blown head gasket and locked up engine!

Well, I still need to take it to a mechanic to determine the cause of my problem, but my car is dead right now. Here's my story:
I went to Grase Monkey to get my oil changed and had to drive 70 miles out to pick up a friend. After I got my oil changed I noticed my car would hessitate while accellerating in every gear. I made it to the spot to pick up my friend and we started our trip home. I live north of Fargo so it's a little chilly up here right now. I had the heat on and noticed it started getting cold so I turned the heat up. After a moment I noticed my car was blowing cold air. I looked at my temp guage and noticed it was off the chart on H. As soon as I let my **** off the gas smoke started pouring out of the back of my car. I freaked and slowed to 30 mph and luckly we were right outside of the town I live in so we made it off the off ramp and pushed it to a parking lot. I opened the hood and saw oil and radiator fluid everywhere. I looked in my radiator expantion tank and saw nothing but oil in it. Two of my spark plug wires popped out of the spark plug wells (from the heat and pressure of the engine i guess). I got a friend to pick me up and we went to the Grease Monkey that I got the oul change from and just cought the manager as he was closing up. I got him to go take a look at my car and he told me I had a blown head gasket (duh). He pulled out the dipstick and said "well it filled to the max line, so it should be ok". Well, I said it might be filled to the max line, but that doesn't in clude the oil in my radiator, engine bay, and the oil I left on the road. He told me to get it looked at to figure out the cause then get back with him on it.
Here are some questions if anyone can help.
Can overfilling the oil cause this?
If it was Grease Monkey's fault then they pay for the fix, correct?
If so, they should get me a rental car so I can at least go to work correct?
Since my engine will not turn over now, does that mean new engine or can they still rebuild it?
I you have any other info for me that I could use against Grease Monkey, please post.
By the way I have a MY99 OBS. It ran perfect until I recieved the oil change and I'm trying to get as much as I can get from them because this is a major inconnvenience to me and I think I need to be properly paid back for ALL the damages and losses I recieve. Thank in advance for all the help.
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Old 03-24-2002, 03:06 PM   #2
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Ive heard of this happening before.. not so disasterous results, but the guys filling the oil "to the top" instead of the fill line. I know that way too much oil can do bad things to your engine. Id make you you get photographs, write down statements, etc. You're probably going to end up needing it in court.
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Old 03-24-2002, 04:10 PM   #3
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that's why I change my own oil
If it is their fault, then they should pay to get it fixed
good luck with your car

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Old 03-24-2002, 06:52 PM   #4
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I've heard of engines siezing because they were overfilled with oil before (Too much oil catches on the crank and starts to froth/foam up starving the car of lube) but never of causing a H/G to blow. Although I wouldn't rule it out. Best thing to do is like what the man said, take as many pictures, statements as you can and have it inspected by a reputable shop to see what they say. Then take their azzes to court for all the ***** they put you through. Unless it's not their fault....
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Old 03-24-2002, 07:26 PM   #5
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Sounds like they over filled or even double filled the oil. I'd be sure to get an opinion from more than one mechanic if you can. Those diagnostic places that do not do any mechanic work would probably carry more weight than a mechanic that might profit from the work.

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ps check around and see if that grease monkey has a reputation for shoddy work!!
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Old 03-24-2002, 08:34 PM   #6
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do not bring it back to that Grease Monkey.

bring it somewhere else for proper diagnosis, perferably a dealer.

I agree with the above-- most likely is that they overfilled the heck out of your oil, possibly adding 4.25 quarts without draining any.

And yes, it takes 10 minutes to change the oil on a Subaru. Do it yourself after Grease Monkey pays for a new engine.
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Old 03-24-2002, 09:35 PM   #7
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do not bring it back to that Grease Monkey.

bring it somewhere else for proper diagnosis, perferably a dealer.

I agree with the above-- most likely is that they overfilled the heck out of your oil, possibly adding 4.25 quarts without draining any.

And yes, it takes 10 minutes to change the oil on a Subaru. Do it yourself after Grease Monkey pays for a new engine.
Colin hit the nail on the head... Changing the oil and oil filter on the Subi has been the easiest experience out of any car I've worked on.....Depending on where you parked your car and if it has been lowered, you may not even need to jack it up to do so. I was totally shocked when I saw the oil filter right next to the drain plug....First thing to come to my mind was, "It can't be this easy?...Can it?" But then I realized...,"Dam!...It is that easy." No more having to wiggle my arm up and over the frekkin header to remove the filter (MR2) or having to scrape my knuckles on the driveshaft (Civic).
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Old 03-24-2002, 11:38 PM   #8
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i am guessing they double filled your car. SO you will definitely have a blown head gasket...possibly bent rods and your cooling system will need to be totally replaced or flushed...i rec taking it to the dealer for diagnosis.

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Old 03-25-2002, 12:47 AM   #9
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I had the same thing happen to my Volkswagen Beetle after the engine had just been rebuilt. About an hour down the highway, as I started my vacation, my engine began to slow down without any reason. I pressed the accelerator and BANG!!! the engine blew and when I looked in the rear view mirror I saw oil spraying up out of the back end. The engine was a write-off.
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Old 03-25-2002, 05:44 PM   #10
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Yes they may have "double-filled" your engine, but nobody has mentioned "Why".

Check your Transmission Fluid! If you have a A/T check your front Diff. fluid. It is very common for these "QuickyLube" places to dump the oil from the easiest drain-plug to access - the front diff, and then add oil to the engine.

It is also very possible that the oil change was done correctly and you had a stuck T-stat. The engine could be Hydro-locked and have no bottom-end damage. Take the car to a dealer and get an estimate.
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Old 03-25-2002, 05:48 PM   #11
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Well, I've taken it to a shop for diagnosis so far, but probley won't here from them till tomorrow. I had them take pictures, because they would know what to look for and what's important. I also talked to my insurance company. I know they wouldn't have anything to do with this, but they are helping alot. It sucks that the nearest Subaru dealership is 70 miles away from me. Oh, well. I'll post more when I hear more and thanks for the help all.
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Old 03-26-2002, 01:33 PM   #12
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Stay away from those "quick oil change" places. I watched them change oil on a Chevy station wagon once. They checked the oil level while the engine was idling and kept on pouring oil in. They even revved the motor up twice and then checked the oil level afterward. What a bunch of idiots.
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Old 03-26-2002, 03:35 PM   #13
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For some people those "quickie places" are better than nothing.
I watched my neighbor drain the oil out of his car, then start it up and rev it up a few times. When I told him that he was destroying his engine he said " I was just reving it up to get all of the old oil out of it like my dad taught me."
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Old 03-26-2002, 07:22 PM   #14
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I found out it wasn't Grease Monkey's fault. The mechanic told me that the head gaskets blew between each set of cylinders and after I gave him permission to open the engine he found a lot more. He said that the heads were all warped and one of the cylinder had melted into the cylinder walls. I called the dealership and they told me that it should be under the 5year 60k mile warranty, but they still have to look at it. Now, how to get it to the dealership which is 80 miles away and figure out why the head gasket blew...
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Old 03-26-2002, 11:03 PM   #15
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If the engine blew while warrantied, shouldn't Subaru pay for the tow and/or have an inspector/adjuster come to see the car at the garage you took it to? They should also pay any other costs related to the problem.
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Old 03-27-2002, 01:08 AM   #16
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Wow, that sounds pretty damn impressive! Keep us up to date on what Subaru says (if they tell you anything, of course).

Oh, and I agree with Automaton. Call 1800-SUBARU-3 (Subaru of America's customer service line) first thing tomorrow and explain the situation. Tell them that you don't think it's right that you get stuck paying for towing to get the car to the dealer if they want to do their own inspection. Your independent shop has already determined the engine is toast, if the dealer wants to see that for themselves you think the dealer should foot the bill for towing. And, of course, the dealer owes you a loaner car or rental while they figure out what to do. SoA seems to be pretty helpful from what I've seen.

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Old 03-27-2002, 09:35 AM   #17
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Hopefully, SOA will do the right thing but, just in case they don't, get a written report, with photos, from the mechanic who took the engine apart and have it cosigned by his supervisor. Keep a dated record of everything you have done and have had done including phone calls and what was discussed and anything said. These will be essential to proving your case in court as to who pays for various things.
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Old 07-05-2010, 10:36 AM   #18
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A few days ago I took my 06 legacy gt for an oil change. 4 miles later my engine blew up. I found chunks of the block under the hood. I had it towed to the Subaru dealer. The next morning I went to the dealer to talk with them. When the engine blew I left a dripping trail of oil for at least 200 ft and had a puddle under the car about 2.5 ft across. The service tech checked my oil and we found that it was about an inch above full and black. Jiffy Lube is denying my claim stating that too much oil can not cause this catastophic problem. I have a Cobb intake and downpipe on it and they say i must have over-revved the engine. I have taken a number of pictures and i'm gathering info to sue them. $5000 to rebuild my engine at the dealer. Anybody have any input?
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Old 07-05-2010, 12:02 PM   #19
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They may have drained the transmission and filled the oil. Check the tranny.

Bumping an 8-year old thread, eh?
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Old 07-05-2010, 01:03 PM   #20
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in my situation i put word out anywhere i can
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Old 07-05-2010, 01:22 PM   #21
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this is why i change my own oil
saves me money and the risk of having a dumb ass blow my car up

its the most simple task to do.
take 15 mins if that....
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Old 07-05-2010, 02:50 PM   #22
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in my situation i put word out anywhere i can
....if you keep bumping old threads like this you're just going to get yourself banned. The fact is that your car is modified & you take it to places like "Jiffy Lube". Kiss any hope of getting this covered under warranty and learn a lesson about where you take your car to get maintained.
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Old 07-05-2010, 05:32 PM   #23
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I don't think he mentioned warranty at all. He's trying to get jiffy lube to pay for their mistake.
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Old 07-05-2010, 07:59 PM   #24
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I don't think he mentioned warranty at all. He's trying to get jiffy lube to pay for their mistake.
....you're right (sorry), he mentioned it in one of his other of several posts on the subject. I just have little tolerance for people that "blanket post" all over the forums when they have a problem. ....can you imagine what it would be like if everyone did that?
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You're First mistake was taking your car to Jiffy Lube. Hell, I wouldn't even send my ex-wife to Jiffy Lube. But....in your defense, you need to tell Jiffy Lube that: A long time ago in a land far far away, auto manufacturers installed these nifty little things called rev limiters. Make sure that you explain to them (in very simple words) how a rev limiter works by cutting the fuel at a certain rpm (an rpm that is well below the harmful range) so that a person cannot overrev the motor. Other than that, it's lawsuit time.

And since nobody has said it...Holy thread revival batman!!
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