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Old 11-12-2008, 07:26 AM   #1
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Im just wondering if anyone could tell me where in the tri-state area, particularly in NJ, where I can get a decent paint job, Im looking to get it painted black, for under $300, hopefully even cheaper. If any of you live and NJ and would do the paint job and your price is lower that would be awesome. Also wondering If it would just be better to do the paintjob myself. Im planning to do some exterior and interior modding but I want to get the paintjob first because the car is now a faded white color..
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Old 11-12-2008, 08:26 AM   #2
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I don't think you can get a good paint job anywhere for $300. A good paint job is usually a few thou. I have an old racecar and took it to Maaco for $300 paint job and wasn't concerned with the quality. I had only the outside done and it's not horrible. No door jams painted, no under the hood, etc etc. You may also want to rethink a changing the color. White looks better with imperfections than black. Remember, good work isn't cheap and cheap work isn't always good.


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Old 11-12-2008, 08:54 AM   #3
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By the way...'decent' and 'under $300' don't belong in the same sentence.

Even if you did it yourself, you couldn't buy the materials for $300!!

Maaco is your only hope.
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Old 11-12-2008, 09:16 AM   #4
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Hey all.
Im just wondering if anyone could tell me where in the tri-state area, particularly in NJ, where I can get a decent paint job, Im looking to get it painted black, for under $300, hopefully even cheaper. If any of you live and NJ and would do the paint job and your price is lower that would be awesome. Also wondering If it would just be better to do the paintjob myself. Im planning to do some exterior and interior modding but I want to get the paintjob first because the car is now a faded white color..

I'm curious as to where you got your info that you could paint a car for $300 and look good and last. Is it from the Maaco commercials?
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Old 11-12-2008, 10:12 AM   #5
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I found a automotive paint sprayer and the black paint for around $150-200 online on various sites, but they were not sold together.
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Old 11-12-2008, 10:14 AM   #6
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I know professionally I have only heard of maaco but they do a mediocre job. I was wondering if there is any place aside from maaco that is around that price or will it cost a grand or 2 to get it painted professionally
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Old 11-12-2008, 10:21 AM   #7
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Old 11-12-2008, 10:26 AM   #8
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sorry bout that wrong paint
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...F8&me=&seller=

- black paint
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Old 11-12-2008, 10:28 AM   #9
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I also found this paint sprayer, and my neighbor has at least 2 different air compressors so getting that will not be an issue.

http://www.amazon.com/Vaper-HVLP-Gra...6503623&sr=1-1
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Old 11-12-2008, 10:39 AM   #10
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You will definitely not get a good paint job for $300 even $500-$700 will be poor. On top of that your car is White from what your infos says. No one will shoot your car with door jams for less that $1500 and if the jams are not done the stock white will scream through the body seams.

Call your local Maaco and see if they are going to run their "Black Friday Special" .....they paint only black for a ridiculous price like $199 but its total crap. They dont scuff the car or clean it. They only quickly wipe it down with Lacquer Thinner and quickly tape it off. Also Maaco nore anyone else will clear coat for advertised cheep prices. If you7 lucky it will be a "One Step" paint job where the clear is mixed in with the base coat color.

No clear coat = shiny for maybe a month and no buffing or wax will help for more than a few days
One Step clear coat = shiny, wax and buff-able durable finish but not any better than stock Suby paint if its a quality job
Two Step paint job = colored base coated then cleared with a separate coat of UV resistant acrylic clear. This is a show car/mucho money $5000+ paint job, especially if the jams are done. It will last nearly for ever and will stand up to 1000's of buffings cuttings if its a quality job.

IMO your best bet is to see if you can cut a deal with Maaco for a clear coat only and rattle can black the car before Maaco clears it.....good luck whatever you do

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Old 11-12-2008, 11:01 AM   #11
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You can go to M&S in Newark...
They have painted cars in my club b4...for around 1000-1300 with minor bodywork...they come out ok...
Cars they painted....




The Si was t-boned soon after he bought it...new doors and roof was repaired
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Old 11-12-2008, 11:27 AM   #12
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^those dont look bad at all for 1500.

I think the OP might have meant 3,000. lol
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Old 11-12-2008, 11:35 AM   #13
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I would assume if you get your car painted Bi-yearly at the same paint shop you would get a discount......rite D?
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Old 11-12-2008, 11:40 AM   #14
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^those dont look bad at all for 1500.

I think the OP might have meant 3,000. lol
yea 3k is about the right price for a legit paint job.
few more for show quality...pending on type of paint.

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Old 11-12-2008, 12:13 PM   #15
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im not looking for a pro look... im just looking to get it painted black and stay that way... im installing a few basic exterior styling mods after i get it painted, all of which come in black. The job just needs to stay i can always touch it up regardless of the time it will take if its a ****ty job
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Old 11-12-2008, 12:37 PM   #16
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If the finish isnt a priority and you have a garage and a air compressor
you can do it yourself.
Theres enough DIY threads...all you need is a gun and you can buy some single stage paint for around 150....3 parts base, 1 part reducer and 1 part catalyst....gives you 5 pints of paint..
stick with urethane paints...easier to spray

I did my friends hatch in a hurry with about 80 bucks worth of supplies
granted its just some semi gloss rustoleum enamel, cut 50% with acetone....but didnt come out too bad,...

gatta also mention..after first 2 coats i wet sanded the hell out of it
then did a final 2 or 3 and called it a day ( ran outta time)


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Old 11-12-2008, 12:47 PM   #17
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thanks so much. is there a DIY part of the forum or do i just have to sift through a search for paint job ?
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Old 11-12-2008, 04:40 PM   #18
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Dude, definitely find someone to help you with this. Someone with a little experience taping and sanding and general prep.
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Old 11-12-2008, 05:25 PM   #19
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For a few packs of cigs and some beer i would give you a hand...but ive been swamped with CNC work this month...free time is one of my favorite past times.

But honestly, if you take your time...prep the panels right...some wetsanding and taping you'd be ok.
Theres a TON of info out there just do some diggin

http://www.monsterguide.net/how-to-paint-a-car.shtml

I even seen a whole urethane paint system at pep boys the other day in Hackensack.
Granted they only had basic colors, red, black, white, yellow...
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Old 11-13-2008, 08:13 AM   #20
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Why don't you just prep the car yourself and just go to Maaco. They do actually do pretty horrible work, unless you prep the car yourself. When they are finished, take the care to someone who knows how to detail. Wet Sand the car with some pretty high grit, somewhere between 2,000-3,000, then buff it out. It will actually come out amazing. Maaco only is horribly since they don't prep the cars properly and they never care when it comes to clearing the car, which is why Wet Sanding is a must to smooth it all out.
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Old 11-13-2008, 10:19 AM   #21
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You will definitely not get a good paint job for $300 even $500-$700 will be poor. On top of that your car is White from what your infos says. No one will shoot your car with door jams for less that $1500 and if the jams are not done the stock white will scream through the body seams.

Call your local Maaco and see if they are going to run their "Black Friday Special" .....they paint only black for a ridiculous price like $199 but its total crap. They dont scuff the car or clean it. They only quickly wipe it down with Lacquer Thinner and quickly tape it off. Also Maaco nore anyone else will clear coat for advertised cheep prices. If you7 lucky it will be a "One Step" paint job where the clear is mixed in with the base coat color.

No clear coat = shiny for maybe a month and no buffing or wax will help for more than a few days
One Step clear coat = shiny, wax and buff-able durable finish but not any better than stock Suby paint if its a quality job
Two Step paint job = colored base coated then cleared with a separate coat of UV resistant acrylic clear. This is a show car/mucho money $5000+ paint job, especially if the jams are done. It will last nearly for ever and will stand up to 1000's of buffings cuttings if its a quality job.

IMO your best bet is to see if you can cut a deal with Maaco for a clear coat only and rattle can black the car before Maaco clears it.....good luck whatever you do
There is so much false information in this post its humorus.

OP, if your just looking for an OK job just go get a $300 scuff and squirt. It will last a couple years and be better than someone with 0 spraying experience can do. Take all the trim off (door handles, moldings etc.)before you take it in.

You can give it a shot yourself, but don't expect too much. Painting has a pretty steep learning curve so your first shot might have a few mistakes. There is worth in learning how to do things yourself though. Go to an automotive paint store and tell them what your planning. People that work with paint for a living will be able to point you in the right direction.
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Old 11-15-2008, 01:19 AM   #22
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There is no way for that price (or close to it) you'll make the car look "decent". In high school, we'd just sand the car, and primer it permanently if bad paint was the case. Although not good for the metal, I'd rather make it obvious that I didn't give a crap about the paint, rather than have people assume that I thought Maaco would do a good job painting my car. Of course we didn't plan on keeping those cars forever.

To contradict myself...I really don't care what people think about what I do anyway. With that said, best of luck to you! Keep us posted (with pics of the aftermath).
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Old 11-15-2008, 05:07 PM   #23
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i say go for a DIY paintjob.

my father has been restoring muscle cars for as long as i can remember and they all turn out amazing, hes going to be helping me do the body work on my 240sx with a DIY paintjob
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Old 11-15-2008, 06:37 PM   #24
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lol is that one step or two step paint
gunna prime it? i asume no clear coat let alone hard coat

bro it takes loot time and skills to paint stuff your self. napa sells paint if you insist and i recomend going there so you know how much to mix with how much thinner so you dont clog your guns.

lmk how it goes tho
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Old 11-17-2008, 09:22 AM   #25
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You will definitely not get a good paint job for $300 even $500-$700 will be poor. On top of that your car is White from what your infos says. No one will shoot your car with door jams for less that $1500 and if the jams are not done the stock white will scream through the body seams.

Call your local Maaco and see if they are going to run their "Black Friday Special" .....they paint only black for a ridiculous price like $199 but its total crap. They dont scuff the car or clean it. They only quickly wipe it down with Lacquer Thinner and quickly tape it off. Also Maaco nore anyone else will clear coat for advertised cheep prices. If you7 lucky it will be a "One Step" paint job where the clear is mixed in with the base coat color.

No clear coat = shiny for maybe a month and no buffing or wax will help for more than a few days
One Step clear coat = shiny, wax and buff-able durable finish but not any better than stock Suby paint if its a quality job
Two Step paint job = colored base coated then cleared with a separate coat of UV resistant acrylic clear. This is a show car/mucho money $5000+ paint job, especially if the jams are done. It will last nearly for ever and will stand up to 1000's of buffings cuttings if its a quality job.

IMO your best bet is to see if you can cut a deal with Maaco for a clear coat only and rattle can black the car before Maaco clears it.....good luck whatever you do


HAHAHAHA then i guess theres alot of show cars rolling around.



Its not just the quality of the paint itself that makes it show quality alone,
its the hours and hours of prep, color sanding, final sanding and polishing

and also fyi...most "show quality" paint jobs cost more than 5 grand...

i can tell you i spent 4 grand alone in hok materials for my crx
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