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Old 11-12-2008, 02:25 PM   #1
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Im looking to get rid of the pos stock tires for either toyo ra1s or nitto nt01s. I understand they are the same compound but with a different tread design. Which would be the tire of choice for an 08 sti. Also how long will these tires last on the street? Thanks


Please dont tell me how dumb it is and how they will suck and be deadly in the rain. I understand that and dont care.
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Old 11-12-2008, 02:38 PM   #2
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Having run RA-1s on the street I'd guess you'll see about 6-10k unless you autox them or use them for a track day.

While Dallas doesn't freeze, I don't know about outlying areas or where else you might drive on these. But, Toyo R-comps and 32 or less is a hazardous mix. Per Toyo:
This advisory addresses the proper storage of these tires in colder climates. As seen in the picture below, tires stored and operated at sub-freezing temperatures, i.e., at or below 32F (0C), will lose rubber compound flexibility and may experience cracking when operated under such conditions.

Not that I drove on them frequently in the rain, but I had no problem in the wet (then again, I grew up & learned to drive in Oregon).

Why not get a top summer tire instead of the road-race R? It'll get you 75% or more of the performance on the street, and provide a lot more margin of comfort when temperatures dip.

Just a few that come to mind...
Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R
Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec
Yokohama ADVAN Neova AD07

Not to mention you'll get more than 10k from any of these. But, different strokes and all that. Have fun!
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Old 11-12-2008, 03:02 PM   #3
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Having run RA-1s on the street I'd guess you'll see about 6-10k unless you autox them or use them for a track day.

While Dallas doesn't freeze, I don't know about outlying areas or where else you might drive on these. But, Toyo R-comps and 32 or less is a hazardous mix. Per Toyo:
This advisory addresses the proper storage of these tires in colder climates. As seen in the picture below, tires stored and operated at sub-freezing temperatures, i.e., at or below 32F (0C), will lose rubber compound flexibility and may experience cracking when operated under such conditions.

Not that I drove on them frequently in the rain, but I had no problem in the wet (then again, I grew up & learned to drive in Oregon).

Why not get a top summer tire instead of the road-race R? It'll get you 75% or more of the performance on the street, and provide a lot more margin of comfort when temperatures dip.

Just a few that come to mind...
Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R
Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec
Yokohama ADVAN Neova AD07

Not to mention you'll get more than 10k from any of these. But, different strokes and all that. Have fun!
Thanks man. Yes the car will be tracked frequently. I just refuse to spend the money on a summer tire to throw on the stock wheels. Im buying streets wheels Im just starting the bbs as track wheels asap.
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Old 11-12-2008, 03:31 PM   #4
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the first time you forget what tires you have on the car on a cold, damp morning MAY end spectacularly
ask me how i know this

beware

ra-1 would be my choice

Nitto has a new NT-05 becoming available soon that may be worth waiting for
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Old 11-12-2008, 03:53 PM   #5
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the first time you forget what tires you have on the car on a cold, damp morning MAY end spectacularly
ask me how i know this

beware

ra-1 would be my choice

Nitto has a new NT-05 becoming available soon that may be worth waiting for
with how fast ill wear out the nt05 Ill give them a try too.
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Old 11-12-2008, 04:19 PM   #6
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Im getting the nt01s cheaper so nt01s it is. ill probably just go with a full race tire next time around. I should have my street wheels by then. Now for some brake pads to match the tires. Pagid yellows anyone?
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NT-01's are LOUD. Like "Heres comes a train! Oh, it's just that car" loud. Pagid Yellows are junk IMO. Destroyed them in one event running NT-01's. I run PFC01's and love them. These are track only pads. You definitely don't want to use them on the street, but I assume you'll swap them when you go to the track.
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Old 11-12-2008, 09:55 PM   #8
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NT-01's are LOUD. Like "Heres comes a train! Oh, it's just that car" loud. Pagid Yellows are junk IMO. Destroyed them in one event running NT-01's. I run PFC01's and love them. These are track only pads. You definitely don't want to use them on the street, but I assume you'll swap them when you go to the track.
Yep. ill probably run ferodo ds2500s or project mu Hc+ on the street. Until I buy a set of real brakes.
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