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Old 10-26-2011, 10:41 AM   #276
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No MD/VA area shops have an AWD Mustang. They all use Dynapack, Dyno Dynamics, or Dynojet. TurboXS has high reading Dynapack and Andrewtech doesn't do tuning (they use TurboXS which is across the street).

The 20G will make more power at the expense of spool than the 18G. As for what the supporting mods, I suggest you start looking at what you're getting yourself into.
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Old 10-26-2011, 10:42 AM   #277
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I just had my car tuned about 2 weeks ago.
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Mods: k&n intake,Invidia DP,Apexi gt spex Exhaust,cobb accessport,and MBC.
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Wideband broke toward the end of the tune so the car is still running rich but no horrible. coulda got a little better numbers but huge maybe 10hp
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Old 10-26-2011, 10:49 AM   #278
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No MD/VA area shops have an AWD Mustang. TurboXS has high reading Dynapack and Andrewtech doesn't do tuning (they use TurboXS which is across the street).

The 20G will make more power at the expense of spool than the 18G. As for what the supporting mods, I suggest you start looking at what you're getting yourself into.
yea that why i said andrewtech/turboxs since id most likely need to get work done there before they across the street to turboXS. But thanks for letting me know what kind of dyno they have.

I think ill keep with the 18G for faster spooling than the 20G. I know i need to do more research, just wanted to make sure I was heading in the right direction.

Hopefully ill get a high paying job once i finish my last semester, then i can save up more for this.
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Old 12-04-2011, 01:23 AM   #279
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1. 275-300whp.
2. Mustang Dyno
3. Knoxville Performance
4. Cookeville, TN. Elevation 1140ft
5. 93 Oct.
6. Would like to stay with the TMIC if possible.

Current mods:
Catless TBE. Catless Uppipe. Running Stage 2 on Cobb AP.


I know 275-300 is pretty tame compared to what most people want to make, but it is my DD and I would like for it to stay pretty reliable.

So with that in mind, would 270-300whp be very reliable? Motor/Trans is 100% stock right now. I don't drive it hard, no clutch dumps or hard launches.


So approx what would I need to do to hit this goal?

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Old 12-08-2011, 01:11 AM   #280
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will a stock wrx 2002 with dp, up, sti catback or m2 3", injectors size? and pump???
stock turbo 2.0

will it hit 230whp 230ftlbs to wheels on a dyna? i here people hit 210whp stage 2 on 93oct

will e85 get me there? 230whp 230ftlbs+

also any good priced tuners near albany ny?
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Old 12-09-2011, 09:58 PM   #281
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might as well just get the basics - used vf, pinks (or blues, 06+), etc. and you won't even need e85. as for tuners, p&l was kind enough to fly junior to chicago
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Old 12-10-2011, 10:43 PM   #282
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Goin to get my scooby tuned real soon! Thanks for the advice
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:11 PM   #283
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I'm looking for 350 wtq. HP is irrelevant to me.


Dynojet 424 AWD in ground

IAG


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Staying with the stock TMIC.
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:13 PM   #284
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I'm looking for 350 wtq. HP is irrelevant to me.

Dynojet 424 AWD in ground

IAG

Hampton Roads, VA

Exxon 93

Staying with the stock TMIC.
Dominator 3.0XT-R. You will not pull this off on the stock TMIC though. That's not gonna happen. You're gonna need to go FMIC.
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:17 PM   #285
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Dominator 3.0XT-R. You will not pull this off on the stock TMIC though. That's not gonna happen.
Well that doesn't help much then but thank you.
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:35 PM   #286
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Well that doesn't help much then but thank you.
No, I was telling your goal is unattainable with the stock TMIC. Its not even ideal on something much bigger and more efficient like the Speaco TMIC.
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:56 PM   #287
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I'm looking for 350 wtq. HP is irrelevant to me.


Dynojet 424 AWD in ground

IAG


Hampton Roads, VA


Exxon 93

Staying with the stock TMIC.
Stock turbo should be pretty damn close to that on a stage two setup (downpipe and tune). If you throw some E85 at it (plus fuel injectors/ fuel pump) you should hit that tq number very easily with a stage 2 setup.

Look at Conbs dyno database and see what 2011stis are putting down with what mods.
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Old 12-12-2011, 02:24 PM   #288
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I'm looking for 350 wtq. HP is irrelevant to me.

Dynojet 424 AWD in ground

IAG - Hampton Roads, VA

Exxon 93

Staying with the stock TMIC.
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Dominator 3.0XT-R. You will not pull this off on the stock TMIC though. That's not gonna happen. You're gonna need to go FMIC.
Is this a really low reading Dynojet, or are you talking WHP (horsepower) numbers?

For WTQ (torque), getting close to 350 WTQ on the stock turbo seems quite possible. Bump peak boost to around 20psi and you're probably close (depending on dyno). Top end power will be limited to somewhere around 300 WHP due to the turbo's efficiency range, and the airflow limitations (stock TMIC, etc).

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Old 12-12-2011, 02:27 PM   #289
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I hope you're kidding. IAG's dyno reads very low. It's gonna take something 30R sized to get what he wants.
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Old 12-12-2011, 02:47 PM   #290
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I hope you're kidding. IAG's dyno reads very low. It's gonna take something 30R sized to get what he wants.
I know nothing about that dyno. But just doing a quick search, I seemed to find stock turbo's doing anywhere from 300WTQ all the way to about 350WTQ at IAG. Most of the posts I saw were several years old, so maybe the dyno has changed over the years. For example, the bottom of this post has an 08 STI on the stock turbo with 348WTQ:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...3#post25338883

That car (and most of the other stock turbo's at that dyno) did well under 300WHP. The Dom3-sized turbo's seemed to do marginally more torque (mid-300's), but considerably more horsepower. But all of this is based on a couple minutes of internet browsing, so I'm probably not the best person to listen to...

My main point was that if you just want torque, you can get quite a pile of it (and down pretty low) with a VF turbo and high-ish peak boost. It won't do much on the top end, but if you don't care about power, it might make you happy. Maybe it won't make the number you have in your head, but it seems like it's worth a shot.
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Old 12-12-2011, 02:52 PM   #291
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That post was meant for rexblake (a local to IAG) as your post wasn't made yet when I read the thread.

The point I was making is that he will not get what he wants on a stage 2 setup. A Dom 3.0XT-R will make 350/350 on this dyno.

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Old 12-12-2011, 03:02 PM   #292
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I'm looking for 350 wtq. HP is irrelevant to me.


Dynojet 424 AWD in ground

IAG


Hampton Roads, VA


Exxon 93

Staying with the stock TMIC.
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Dominator 3.0XT-R. You will not pull this off on the stock TMIC though. That's not gonna happen. You're gonna need to go FMIC.
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No, I was telling your goal is unattainable with the stock TMIC. Its not even ideal on something much bigger and more efficient like the Speaco TMIC.

I disagree. I have a stock location stock turbo, and I was able to hit 371 WTQ with the following mods on a low reading AWD Mustang Dyno:

Intake: KSTech 73 mm Big MAF SRI with a cobb cold air box
Header: Internal and External coated BATLground 1.5 scroll equal length header/UpPipe
Downpipe: Perrin Divorced Wastegate single piece downpipe ceramic coated
Cat-Back: Invidia V1 Q300
EBCS: Grimmspeed EBCS

Here are my dyno results:
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Old 12-12-2011, 03:06 PM   #293
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1. Why are you comparing EFI's Mustang to IAG's Dynojet?

2. Pardon while I roll my eyes at the calibrations that EFI uses on their dyno. I still find it hilarious that for years tuners consistently produce similar whp and wtq numbers and then starting ~2007 or 2008 some tuners started using magical yeticorn dynos that suddenly start give out outrageous torque numbers. 350, 370, 390 wtq on a VF? Please spare me.
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:55 PM   #294
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That post was meant for rexblake (a local to IAG) as your post wasn't made yet when I read the thread.

The point I was making is that he will not get what he wants on a stage 2 setup. A Dom 3.0XT-R will make 350/350 on this dyno.
Lol IAG isn't local to me, I live in CO. I actually have no idea what the dyno reads.
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Old 12-12-2011, 09:39 PM   #295
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Oh, I thought your location said FoCo, MD. My mistake.
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Old 12-13-2011, 11:10 AM   #296
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So what are you saying the TMIC won't support? The amount of boost needed to attain those numbers?
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Old 12-13-2011, 07:13 PM   #297
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it won't cool the air going into the engine enough.
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Old 12-16-2011, 03:19 AM   #298
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Old 12-16-2011, 05:12 PM   #299
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Dominator 3.0XT-R. You will not pull this off on the stock TMIC though. That's not gonna happen. You're gonna need to go FMIC.
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it won't cool the air going into the engine enough.
though i understand what is trying to be said here, these are VERY misleading statements regarding the stock TMIC. i know quite a few people running the stock TMIC with rather LARGE sized turbos (FPRED's, Dom 4's, etc.) putting down quite a bit more than 350wtq that are doing just fine thanks to E85. there are even a few people running ZERO intercoolers on E85 (granted these are drag cars, but i am just using this as an example to make a point). while i don't really think it is necessarily the smartest or recommended idea, saying that it isn't possible to get those numbers at all with the stock tmic is not NECESSARILY true.

statements like that are just like when people say that an aftermarket intercooler with the stock turbo is a waste of money. that statement is a general statement that is largely untrue, and yet for some reason a TON of people on these forums seem to think this is a fact.

on a regular 92/93oct stage 2 tune, an aftermarket intecooler may not necessarily be a HUGE beneficial gain, but it may be the difference between being right on the edge of detonation or being a couple degrees from the edge. to me, that isn't a factual waste of money, but more a personal opinion as to whether or not it is worth the time and money.

and as far as the tmic and tq subject...

truth is, on 92/93oct, they are right...it is going to be pretty hard to TRULY hit those tq numbers with the stock tmic and most any turbo, but with fuels such as E85 or race gas, this number becomes much more achievable due to the ability to advance timing, increase boost, and lean things out quite a bit more.
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Old 12-16-2011, 05:22 PM   #300
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The OP specifically said 93 octane so why even bother with that response? E85 has nothing to do with his post.

And anyone running a Dom 4 on a stock TMIC either likes throwing away money or doesn't know what they are doing. Running that TMIC, even a setup the OP would run would limit the amount of boost and timing they would be able to run to a noticeable degree.
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