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Old 11-17-2008, 12:35 PM   #1
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Default Jeep J8 Production Begins At Arab American Vehicles Company




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There's been lots of speculation on the value of Chrysler's brands as of late, especially with the stillborn merger with GM. Most agreed that the only truly valuable pieces of their business were the Chrysler Minivans and the Jeep brand. Proving the value of the iconic Jeep is the J8, a rough-and-tumble vehicle fortified for developing nations, specifically humanitarian and military duty.

This vehicle screams Jeep utility and functionality, and harks back to the brand's beginnings as a military-duty, go-anywhere vehicle. A far cry from the overweight, overwrought Libertys, Wrangler Unlimiteds, and Grand Cherokees for sale in the U.S., the J8 is lean, mean, and purposeful.

Equipped with a 2.8-liter turbodiesel four-cylinder producing 158 hp and 295 lb-ft. torque, the powerplant is an ideal solution for a truck, and a miser on fuel compared with Jeep's U.S. gasoline offerings. In addition, the J8 frame and suspension have been fortified to handle up to 2,952 lbs. of payload.

This purposeful Jeep is exactly the kind of vehicle that built rock-solid value in - and respect for - the brand. Why can't we get this vehicle in the U.S.? Rock crawlers and utility freaks alike would clamber to dealerships for this vehicle, and the efficiency promised by its diesel engine (which could also run B100 biodiesel) would fit right into today's driving ethos.--Colin Mathews
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Old 11-17-2008, 12:37 PM   #2
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Production of Jeep’s J8 multipurpose vehicle has commenced in Egypt, with the bare-bones 4WD bringing the brand back to its simple n’ rugged roots.


Designed for use as a basic transport vehicle in rough environments and based upon the 2008 Jeep Wrangler, the J8’s versatile load-lugging abilities are designed to appeal to both government and civilian customers alike. In addition to the basic two-door pickup bodystyle, the J8 also comes as a four-door. The two-door version, ‘troop carrier’ style, can carry a huge amount of cargo or a total of eight people, while the four-door can accommodate a mix of passengers and payload.







With a 2.8-litre turbodiesel in-line four pushing out 118kW and 400Nm of torque, the J8 has more than enough grunt to tackle the most hostile of environments. That mountain of torque also gifts the J8 with a substantial 3500kg towing capacity, while a five-speed automatic transmission makes driving this workhorse a cinch.


Being a Jeep, the J8’s off-road credentials are impressive. The Wrangler-based chassis has been beefed up to help it withstand abuse and to boost payload capacity to 1339kg, while the J8’s axles, suspension and brakes have also undergone similar reinforcements. Jeep’s Command-Trac 4WD system maintains grip on soft or slippery surfaces, while a snorkel and durable air intake system allows the J8 to ford streams up to 762mm deep and endure a five-hour sandstorm.





When the going gets really tough, the J8’s reinforced tow hooks allow it to be hitched to a helicopter should things come to a complete stop.


Although Jeep hasn’t specifically targeted the J8 at military customers, there’s no doubt that it is likely to find itself in the service of more than one army. Beyond that, Jeep expects the J8 to find favour with a number of non-government bodies, such as humanitarian organisations like the Red Cross and Green Crescent, aid programs, mining and oil companies, survey teams, farmers and the forestry industry. Unfortunately the J8 doesn’t conform to Australian Design Rules, so don’t expect to see them in your local Jeep showroom.Still, one of these babies would make one hell of a paddock basher…







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Old 11-17-2008, 12:48 PM   #3
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Yes please.
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Old 11-17-2008, 12:52 PM   #4
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i loooooove jeeps. i so wish they would build this. or at least stick that diesel in the wrangler. torque is a must with huge tires and mud
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Old 11-17-2008, 01:02 PM   #5
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If that truck was available in the US, I would have bought it (even with Chryslers meltdown) over my Toyota.
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Old 11-17-2008, 01:29 PM   #6
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what's even funnier is, even the "bare-bones" version of the Jeep with an ideal turbo diesel engine has a 5 speed automatic as opposed to the 4 speed that people get in north america.
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Old 11-17-2008, 01:38 PM   #7
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I suspect we can blame ridiculous testing and certification procedures or not getting thisa ny time soon.

I kinda want one.
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Old 11-17-2008, 03:10 PM   #8
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that white one is lovely. reminds me of a D. 120.
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Old 11-17-2008, 03:18 PM   #9
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I've been working on an '87 Wrangler Laredo trying to get it 100% highway worthy. It's been fun and I actually, really enjoy taking it for test spins. It was free so I'm not complaining. I've looked at new ones but the price and gas milage just turn me off.

But one of those diesels above would be extremely awesome! I'd be buying right now.
I'd bet though, that if ever brought to the U.S. they'd jack up the price and call them a "Special Series".
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Old 11-17-2008, 03:30 PM   #10
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I agree; I think any manufacturer that brings diesels to the U.S. will jack up the price signigicantly at which point the diesel might not be worth it. And I am just talking about jacking up the msrp; the new jetta tdi prices I have seen at dealers are 5k+ over the msrp.
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Old 11-17-2008, 04:16 PM   #11
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What are all these diesel fanboys smoking? (and I mean that in the nicest way)

Everyone loves to say on the internets "oh, if it had a diesel, I'd buy one tomorrow"... yea, give me a break. Diesel is over a dollar more per gallon right now than regular gas. You can talk all you want about it's higher fuel economy, but factoring in the higher initial cost of a diesel, and adding in the much higher fuel cost, I just don't see diesels catching on in the US any time soon.

All these J8s are outside the US, so diesel there is probably at a much closer price to regular gas which would obviously make it a much more attractive option.
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Old 11-18-2008, 10:13 AM   #12
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The diesel isn't the point (for me at least), although I wouldn't mind it. The beefier components in an actually -compact- truck is. Leaf rear, beefier front (I've been trying to decide from pics if it's a solid front axle too), pickup. What's not to like?
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What are all these diesel fanboys smoking? (and I mean that in the nicest way)

Everyone loves to say on the internets "oh, if it had a diesel, I'd buy one tomorrow"... yea, give me a break. Diesel is over a dollar more per gallon right now than regular gas. You can talk all you want about it's higher fuel economy, but factoring in the higher initial cost of a diesel, and adding in the much higher fuel cost, I just don't see diesels catching on in the US any time soon.

All these J8s are outside the US, so diesel there is probably at a much closer price to regular gas which would obviously make it a much more attractive option.
One word, towing.


My Outbacks fuel economy drops well into the teens when I am towing my camper up north, normally it gets mid 20's.
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Old 11-18-2008, 02:51 PM   #14
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Diesel fan boy is what I is!! Woop!! Nyuk Nyuk!

If this engine gets the same mileage as the Liberty diesel then that's pretty darned good. (21 city/26 hwy). Mine is currently getting about 15 on the highway.

Rumor mill says that there might be a 2.8L diesel (from the Liberty) swap available for the Wranglers.
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Diesel will need to be over a dollar more per gallon to start impacting the running cost to the point that the gasser poor milege and the diesel cost are equal. Diesel historically runs about 16% more per gallon than regular gas in the US. The 2.8L diesel should return 20-30% greater milege than the v6 gasser. Which means that pretty much all US drivers will run about 15% head of the curve on running cost per gallon at the pump. That and the nature of the diesel would be very fitting low RPM - lots of torque works well for jeep needs. That and just about any passenger car applications would find the low RPM high torque well placed in every day use also.

The major snag will be US emissions standards.
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Exactly. I would love one of these. All of my driving is done at 5000-10000' and a cheap, no-frills, small, rugged, turbo-diesel tow vehicle would be great.
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Diesel will need to be over a dollar more per gallon to start impacting the running cost to the point that the gasser poor milege and the diesel cost are equal. Diesel historically runs about 16% more per gallon than regular gas in the US. The 2.8L diesel should return 20-30% greater milege than the v6 gasser. Which means that pretty much all US drivers will run about 15% head of the curve on running cost per gallon at the pump. That and the nature of the diesel would be very fitting low RPM - lots of torque works well for jeep needs. That and just about any passenger car applications would find the low RPM high torque well placed in every day use also.

The major snag will be US emissions standards.
We aren't at typical "historic" times though.

Regular gas is at ~$2.00/gallon, while diesel is like ~$3.40. Do the math, that is WAY more than 16%. I can understand the towing aspect, and I sure as heck would enjoy the torque, but a 70% premium over regular gas is painful (and yes, I realize that since mileage is better with a diesel, that the price hit isn't 70%, but still damn high).
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They desperately need to put out a stripped Jeep. Diesel or not.
The wrangle has completely lost it's way. They have power windows and nav. for god's sake.
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I suspect we can blame ridiculous testing and certification procedures or not getting thisa ny time soon.
Yeah, safety and air quality suck!
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