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Old 04-30-2010, 10:25 AM   #326
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^From e70 to e85 my wot lambda changed very little... I guess I could just have potent E85 in my area....You really have to keep changing the tune even between different gas stations? Also are you changing you whole fuel map to run e85? Maybe your ecu is set up differently but with the subarus we just make the injector scaler about 28% smaller than the Injectors actually are... so you would take your injector size let's say 850cc multiply it by 0.72 = 612cc , if you use 612cc for your injector scaler it will automatically adjust your fuel maps for E85 ... The only thing E85 needs different than gasoline is 25-30% more fuel per combustion event..So the scaler will make your cars afr's running E85, match with your gasoline fuel map .then if you need to lean it out a bit just take and make your injector scaler a little larger, too richen it up make the injector scaler smaller... Also if you need to fill up with gas you can just change your injector scaler back to you regular size... Makes everything convenient...Is this how you are doing it geoff ?
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All my guys just run on the same tune on different batches of gas without issues at all. Log it and everything is still running great.
If you really want to get anal, you can adjust your scalar to match your fuel map on each tank.
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Old 04-30-2010, 10:28 AM   #327
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interesting.....


There are of course the cold start enrichment tables that need to be played with a bit but that's only if you live in colder areas and it's a very minor issue to tune out , I had Mine starting last fall at 25 degree weather in the first try first crank!
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Old 04-30-2010, 10:31 AM   #328
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There are of course the cold start enrichment tables that need to be played with a bit but that's only if you live in colder areas and it's a very minor issue to tune out , I had Mine starting last fall at 25 degree weather in the first try first crank!
what did you do? Just throw some fuel at it?
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Old 04-30-2010, 12:45 PM   #329
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what did you do? Just throw some fuel at it?
Yeah there are a couple different areas to richen up a bit , mainly the cranking enrichment table needs a little more fuel @ about 45 degrees(temperature) and below and good to go...The other table is cold start enrichment iirc, I may be forgeting a start up table ,I'm on the I phone now ( sadly no body has made a romraider Iphone app ) so I can't open up romraider to check it but I think that's about it for cold start....But of course if on E85 you can crank the boost up a bit and add a little timing if wanted too
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Old 04-30-2010, 01:02 PM   #330
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here in az the fuel quality is _really_ bad. we have huge inconsistencies, heck even our "91 octane" is truly 87 octane, buffered with ~15% ethanol content to raise the octane to 91. There was a car we recently tuned in NJ on 93 octane, shipped it to AZ and on the 91 octane it took ~28% more fuel, across the board. same exact setup, same boost level, just the fuel changed. that car is a daily driver here.

i would kill for some of the E85 you guys get in the midwest! hell if i could get E98 out here i would in a second. That stuff just doesnt exist out here
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Old 04-30-2010, 02:11 PM   #331
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what did you do? Just throw some fuel at it?
There is a thread @ RomRaider's forum, JSarv had some info on what to do.
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Old 04-30-2010, 07:07 PM   #332
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There is a thread @ RomRaider's forum, JSarv had some info on what to do.
Thanks.

I'll look it up.
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Old 05-30-2010, 07:43 AM   #333
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any updates Geoff? Hows PPhilthy GT40R build coming along?
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Old 06-04-2010, 05:51 PM   #334
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philthy's twinscroll 40R evo is now his focus of attention... since it makes high 600whp on pump gas and high 700whp on race gas (with room to go) .

Now that he is daily driving the Evo, he doesnt need to daily drive the twinscroll 40R STI so hell be tweaking it over the next few weeks and will finally get it strapped down at Evans Tuning's Dyno and we'll certainly post any updates here
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Old 06-07-2010, 10:20 PM   #335
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For the guys looking for crazy obscene power, BW just produced a small batch of 67mm S400SX's easily the most powerful 67mm turbocharger on the planet.
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Old 09-15-2010, 11:11 PM   #336
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Does anyone know the part number for the s300p? I've never heard of it til now, and I like the sound of it. How much?
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Old 09-16-2010, 11:36 AM   #337
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the "S300P" was never sold to the public because the turbine housing is not available for purchase - even though the center sections are available. For each of the S300P's that ive had or sold, the turbine housings required to be custom machined and welded by us. There is no other option becuase of the 74mm turbine wheel's geometry. Full-Race has a close relationship with BorgWarner which allows us access to turbochargers that are not available through the normal airwerks catalog, and this is one of those instances

My personal car has been running this turbo with (2) custom housings for time attack use. it generated the best powerband of any turbo thats ever been on my RB26 which is why i ran it at the modified magazine shootout.
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the "S300P" was never sold to the public because the turbine housing is not available for purchase - even though the center sections are available. For each of the S300P's that ive had or sold, the turbine housings required to be custom machined and welded by us. There is no other option becuase of the 74mm turbine wheel's geometry. Full-Race has a close relationship with BorgWarner which allows us access to turbochargers that are not available through the normal airwerks catalog, and this is one of those instances

My personal car has been running this turbo with (2) custom housings for time attack use. it generated the best powerband of any turbo thats ever been on my RB26 which is why i ran it at the modified magazine shootout.
How much? I couldn't find this on ur site.

Thanks!
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Old 09-22-2010, 08:44 PM   #339
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^^we do not sell that turbo becuase the turbine housing requires so much machining, it would cost too much. I am selling the one off of my car if you are interested http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2059687
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Old 09-22-2010, 10:15 PM   #340
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My personal car has been running this turbo with (2) custom housings for time attack use. it generated the best powerband of any turbo thats ever been on my RB26 which is why i ran it at the modified magazine shootout.
So Geoff, why are you selling it if you dont mind me asking..

and looking at the powerband, something wasnt happy at 4600rpms, any idea?

thank you



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Old 09-22-2010, 11:03 PM   #341
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I'm selling my old turbo because Borgwarner is releasing the EFR series... and the technology in those turbos is going to "change the game" - mark my words

The dip and inconsistent tq curve was due to the boost controller I was using was not performing well... so I'm changing that this time also
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I think I am going to hold out for the new turbos.

Man, all the time I've spent researching what turbo to go with (nearly 3 weeks and I am still not done--I'm very thorough) is in vain..lol.

Geoff, is the EFR turbos going to be in the 2011 Airwerks catalog? If so, when is the catalog being released?

Thanks, senor.
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I'm selling my old turbo because Borgwarner is releasing the EFR series... and the technology in those turbos is going to "change the game" - mark my words

The dip and inconsistent tq curve was due to the boost controller I was using was not performing well... so I'm changing that this time also
cool, are those single or twin scroll? post up some comparison when you can please..

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Old 09-23-2010, 12:01 PM   #344
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they are both. you can just switch the housings from singlescroll T3 or twinscroll T4. will start posting up info as I am allowed
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Old 09-24-2010, 02:28 AM   #345
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Geoff, am I close? Check out my prediction in the Borg Warner Registry thread in Proven Power Bragging section, post #706.

Now I've got to sell my brand new divided T4 Garrett GT3582R 1.06 a/r I was about to put on my car.
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Old 09-24-2010, 12:14 PM   #346
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^^yes to post 704
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