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Old 11-22-2008, 12:14 PM   #1
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Default HID Conversion 2009 WRX

I have a 2009 WRX and wondering how i can go about getting my headlights upgraded to HID. I was looking at the HID sticky and couldn't find a 100% answer.

Would i need to do an HID conversion?

What would i need to convert to HID at a reasonable price?

I was looking on ebay, (maybe not the best place to look, but a good place to start.)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Xenon...08#ht_5311wt_0

What lights are in the 09 wrx?

Any info would help.
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Old 11-22-2008, 01:38 PM   #2
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thats not what you need by any means to do it properly
that is the "cheap/ricer" kit
to do it properly would cost a good amount of money as you would need to buy projectors for your headlights, retrofit them, and get a real HID kid
you cant do it for cheap, simple as that
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Old 11-22-2008, 01:56 PM   #3
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or just buy the 2008 or 2009 sti headlights... would that work?
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Old 11-22-2008, 02:01 PM   #4
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that could work too, but again, it wouldnt be cheap
HID headlights, usually even used, are quite expensive
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Old 11-22-2008, 02:44 PM   #5
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sweet at least i am left with another option
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Old 11-22-2008, 03:51 PM   #6
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you can either retrofit which isn't as easy or just find a wrecked sti and get its headlights and hid components.

the problems with hid kits from ebay or other hid components in your 09 halogen projectors stem from the optical differences of the aiming surfaces inside the projector that can't be changed.

the beam will be narrow, unfocused, and too sharp of a gradient(too bright in the middle, too dim on the sides). it results in DECREASED performance because your eyes can't adjust well to hazards in the majority of the viewing field.

if you get sti lights you'll have an even, sharp, focused, and properly adjustable beam. it's easily worth the extra money.

alternatively, you can just keep the oem lights with 55w halogen bulbs. unless you're blind as a bat, they're perfectly fine to see by for most situations and they don't cause problems for other drivers. even blue-coated halogen bulbs are better than a rebased HID 'kit'.
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Old 11-22-2008, 04:31 PM   #7
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That kit is only going to be enough for low beams OR high beams, but not both. If the low beam is in a projector , then it'll be an okay start. Definitely don't toss an HID kit on a reflector type (i.e. the high beams) because you'll blind everyone.
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Old 11-23-2008, 12:56 PM   #8
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That kit is only going to be enough for low beams OR high beams, but not both. If the low beam is in a projector , then it'll be an okay start. Definitely don't toss an HID kit on a reflector type (i.e. the high beams) because you'll blind everyone.
Wrong. Did you not even see the post above yours? HID kits do not work in ANY halogen headlight PERIOD. Not even projectors.
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Old 11-24-2008, 07:59 AM   #9
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the reason not to use them in highbeams is because they will get damaged from being turned on and off before the salts color cycle.

just don't do it without retrofitting hid optics.
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Since you have projectors already though the retro would be easy. Just get some FX35 projectors off ebay for like 80 bucks and retro them into where yours are and then put a nice kit in there. Talk to Caesar from Lightwerkz he has some quality products and info. Just make sure you've got the right kit for your car and you should be good to go on high and low beams. You're looking at about a $300 retro with lightwerkz kit and fx35 projector shrouds. GL let us know how it turns out. Cheers -M
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:54 AM   #11
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Since you have projectors already though the retro would be easy. Just get some FX35 projectors off ebay for like 80 bucks and retro them into where yours are and then put a nice kit in there. Talk to Caesar from Lightwerkz he has some quality products and info. Just make sure you've got the right kit for your car and you should be good to go on high and low beams. You're looking at about a $300 retro with lightwerkz kit and fx35 projector shrouds. GL let us know how it turns out. Cheers -M
im pretty sure that fx35s wont fit into the 2009 headlights. fx35 is bixenon, and the projector is much bigger than the tsx or s2k.

after looking at caesar's site, it looks like tsx or s2k is the way to go. you wont need shrouds because the 09 already has projectors and shrouds.

it will probably be about 400 bucks after all is said and done.
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im pretty sure that fx35s wont fit into the 2009 headlights. fx35 is bixenon, and the projector is much bigger than the tsx or s2k.

after looking at caesar's site, it looks like tsx or s2k is the way to go. you wont need shrouds because the 09 already has projectors and shrouds.

it will probably be about 400 bucks after all is said and done.

Thank you for the clarification, I'm not too up to date on 09 logistics quite yet... Although if you still have usable shrouds the projectors themselves shouldn't be all that expensive. Right? You could prob do a retro for under 400 whatddya think
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Old 11-24-2008, 02:19 PM   #13
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The posts above talking about getting 08/09 Sti HIDs would be your best bet and true for what was said. That alone with push me to find a set.
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Old 11-24-2008, 06:32 PM   #14
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The posts above talking about getting 08/09 Sti HIDs would be your best bet and true for what was said. That alone with push me to find a set.
08/09 sti lights are not the best way to go. the only benefit of installing sti HIDs are the fact that you would have leveling motors.

being almost brand new, any 08/09 sti headlight set is going to be too expensive.

tsx or s2k projectors are far superior to sti optics also. you will get a much brighter, focused, and wider beam from tsx or s2ks
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^^ +1... go tsx if you can afford it. Best bang for your buck for sure.
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Old 11-25-2008, 12:06 AM   #16
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Wrong. Did you not even see the post above yours? HID kits do not work in ANY halogen headlight PERIOD. Not even projectors.
Prove it
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Prove it
I don't have to prove crap. It's already been proven. Just do a search on the internet and you will find sites (like Daniel Stern's) that give SCIENTIFIC FACTS about why kits just don't work, no matter what you do.

The dozens of pictures I have seen of HID kits in halogen headlights ALL with complete piss poor results is proof enough.

The last THREE....count it with me, THREE times I have asked for photographic proof from someone claiming their HID kit produces no glare, ALL THREE TIMES NO PICTURES WERE POSTED! There's your damn proof right there.
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Lboogie is probably just talking about semantics.....

Yes, you can put in a hid kit and yes you will get light output...so it does "work". Will it be well focused and have minimal glare? Most likely not.
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Taken from a different thread

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^^^ There's some "proof" right there ^^^
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That actually looks pretty decent. I know I know I see the glare but that is much better than the drop in kits you see in halogen reflector housings... Anyway, even though I recommend a projector retrofit because you're setup for it, I'm not really telling you what to do. However there is some great info in this thread. GL
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Old 11-25-2008, 12:55 PM   #22
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That actually looks pretty decent. I know I know I see the glare but that is much better than the drop in kits you see in halogen reflector housings... Anyway, even though I recommend a projector retrofit because you're setup for it, I'm not really telling you what to do. However there is some great info in this thread. GL
I would have to disagree with you. The top two pictures Ritky posted have extremely unsafe levels of light bleeding above the cutoff. The first picture doesn't look as bad as the second because (conveniently) the lights aren't against a flat wall. You can, however, STILL see a ton of glare in the first picture. Just look at the blue wall to see what I'm talking about. The third picture is in fact a stock STi HID setup, and you can see there is virtually no glare.

I'm not trying to knock your opinion msesno, I am just trying to make a valid point.
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I hear you steve, and totally agree. There is a good amount of glare above the cutoff and I was more saying the cutoff itself is very good. Perhaps one could retro some sort of shield to eliminate that extra glare above the cutoff? I know it has been tried but it seems like if you get rid of the upper bleeding you'd be money.
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the cut off in the picture looks better than my 06 wrx projector...
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I hear you steve, and totally agree. There is a good amount of glare above the cutoff and I was more saying the cutoff itself is very good. Perhaps one could retro some sort of shield to eliminate that extra glare above the cutoff? I know it has been tried but it seems like if you get rid of the upper bleeding you'd be money.
Ah ok, I see what you're saying. I definitely agree...if there was some easy way to modify a halogen projector shield to make it usable with an HID kit, I would be all for that idea. But at that point, it would make sense to just go one step further and just swap out the halogen projectors for HID projectors and get the best lighting possible
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