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Old 11-24-2008, 09:43 PM   #1
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Default 'Mericans just never learn... OR... Pickup Trucks Overtake Econoboxes, Return To Top

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Pickup Trucks Overtake Econoboxes, Return To Top Sales Spot In October






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We just saw the following chart of Top 10 retail vehicle sales for October, 2008 showing the Ford F-150 and Chevy Silverado overtaking the Toyota Camry and Corolla. Looks like that drop in gas prices to under $2 per gallon due to a lack of economic growth have already made us forget about the summer pains of high gas prices. Back to the good ol' days of 2006 when 'merican automakers built the kinda vehicles 'mericans want to buy! Well, if they had access to credit. Yee-HAW!


For the most part, these are going to be the same morons that bitch and moan when gas prices hit $4/gallon again.

Yea, I understand that many of these trucks are work-trucks and actually gets used for what they were built for, but there are also a large number of idiots out there that drive their pickup like a family sedan and sure as heck won't be able to afford the fuel for it... of course not like the automakers offer up any real alternative for those that need the utility, but want something more fuel efficient. In the van world, Diamler-Benz was smart enough to bring over the Sprinter to the US, but I see no good alternative to a full-size pickup seeing as how Detroit has completely forgotten about their small pickups.
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:50 PM   #2
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Or, maybe it was the incentives that were/are available.
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Old 11-24-2008, 10:05 PM   #3
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Or, maybe it was the incentives that were/are available.
And in line with the OP's point: how short sighted of Americans.
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Old 11-24-2008, 10:17 PM   #4
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Or, maybe it was the incentives that were/are available.
DING DING DING DING!!

My friend's Dad just bought a brand new Chevy Silverado 1500 bcause of employee pricing, they're a TOYOTA family. He was lookin at the Tundra and Titan, but he couldn't pass up such a good deal on the Chevy. He always wanted a large truck like that, they have a Tacoma but they gave it to my friend.
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Old 11-24-2008, 10:20 PM   #5
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I just dont get it do people think gas prices are going to stay below $2 a gallon...by summer we will be back to 4-5 a gallon.
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Old 11-24-2008, 10:25 PM   #6
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hence why i decided not to trade the suby in to get back into a truck besides a bigger turbo sounds nice
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Old 11-24-2008, 10:29 PM   #7
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Incentives aren't gonna mean jack when gas hits $4/gallon again and some of these folks won't be able to afford to fill their gas tanks.... and then we'll start hearing the waaaaambulance all over again.
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Old 11-24-2008, 10:38 PM   #8
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Proudly funding both sides of the war on terror...
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Old 11-24-2008, 10:42 PM   #9
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Hey man! Without trucks, America stops!
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Old 11-24-2008, 10:46 PM   #10
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Proudly funding both sides of the war on terror...
I don't think I've ever seen so much fail in one picture in my entire life.

That is pretty pathetic on our part. I've been saying for a while now that once the economy stabilizes and people can go out and spend money again gas is going to sky rocket once more. All these people with these trucks are going to moan and groan again and they only have themselves to blame.
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Old 11-24-2008, 10:50 PM   #11
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Another thing you have to factor in are the people who actually need trucks jumping on some relatively great deals.
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Old 11-24-2008, 10:57 PM   #12
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I don't think I've ever seen so much fail in one picture in my entire life.
Nah, he's missing the Calvin pissing on a (some other brand) sticker, the Hardley Ableson sticker, the terrorist hunting license sticker, and the WWJD sticker. Trust me, I see the entire suite multiple times a day...
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:05 PM   #13
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Nah, he's missing the Calvin pissing on a (some other brand) sticker, the Hardley Ableson sticker, the terrorist hunting license sticker, and the WWJD sticker. Trust me, I see the entire suite multiple times a day...
You forgot the "Buy American" sticker... all while his 9 MPG POS is guzzling down some of Saudi Arabia's finest black gold and adding to our insane trade deficit.
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:44 PM   #14
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I think the best part is ppl with wrxs talking about MPGs. You're NOT getting much better MPGs then the ppl buying these trucks.
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Old 11-25-2008, 12:00 AM   #15
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And people are wondering why GM/Ford/Chrysler are failing. It's partly the consumer's fault. Some of us are out there demanding and buying these trucks with terrible gas mileage.
If we consumers keep buying these gasoline V8 engine powered trucks manufacturers will not work very hard to make them fuel efficient. They will simply fly out their CEOs to Washington (in private jets please) to ask for bailout money ...

Personally, I will refuse to buy any pickup trucks in the US (no matter who is making it) until manufacturers start offering 2.5L~3.5L turbo diesel engines as an option.
And no, I do not consider the gigantic +5.9L Cummins engines as a reasonable alternative for a light to medium duty pickup truck.
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Old 11-25-2008, 12:11 AM   #16
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Personally, I will refuse to buy any pickup trucks in the US (no matter who is making it) until manufacturers start offering 2.5L~3.5L turbo diesel engines as an option.
Say hello to your next pickup truck. Entering the US market in 2010 or 2011 with a small diesel. This company has been building Jeeps under license in India since the 40's. They should know their way around small, rugged trucks by now.

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Old 11-25-2008, 12:56 AM   #17
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I just dont get it do people think gas prices are going to stay below $2 a gallon...by summer we will be back to 4-5 a gallon.

Why would they go back up so drastic ? There is no shortage never was, there still plenty of production . The Oil companies inflated the oil prices and got a way with it for quite a while . Now they are under a watchfull eye, fuel will not go over 3 dollars a gallon next summer .
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Old 11-25-2008, 12:58 AM   #18
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Why would they go back up so drastic ? There is no shortage never was, there still plenty of production . The Oil companies inflated the oil prices and got a way with it for quite a while . Now they are under a watchfull eye, fuel will not go over 3 dollars a gallon next summer .

Politics. The left wants us to go GREEN. Low gas prices discourage conservation and small little fuel efficient cars. If they can keep fuel costs high, they can try to get us off fossil fuels, which the left believes causes global warming, as I go throught the coldest November in decades.
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Proudly funding both sides of the war on terror...
I see a few trucks decked out like that everyday. Damn tough guys have more stickers on their trucks than japanese schoolgirls have on their lunchboxes.
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^^^^^^^^^
You got a point, but the econimy sucks right now and people only care about the bottom line at the moment, so Obama would be smart to put a watchfull eye on the oil market .

Global Warming !!!!!!!!!!! LOL LOL LOL
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Old 11-25-2008, 01:05 AM   #21
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Say hello to your next pickup truck. Entering the US market in 2010 or 2011 with a small diesel. This company has been building Jeeps under license in India since the 40's. They should know their way around small, rugged trucks by now.

mahindra?
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Old 11-25-2008, 01:08 AM   #22
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mahindra?
Yep..
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Old 11-25-2008, 01:26 AM   #23
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I think the best part is ppl with wrxs talking about MPGs. You're NOT getting much better MPGs then the ppl buying these trucks.
Truth.

Full-size and mid-size (non-crossover) SUVs are the bigger offenders, though, not trucks; at least in terms of attracting retards who don't need them.

I see this as what a few others have stated, mostly people who have some use for a truck getting them now that they are dirt cheap. If this was a full-on retard-explosion of people buying Explorers again, I'd be kinda pissed.

That said, it is a shame that the small-truck market is in the crapper, because most people who really need a truck could make due with an S-10 or Ranger.
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Old 11-25-2008, 01:27 AM   #24
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For the most part, these are going to be the same morons that bitch and moan when gas prices hit $4/gallon again.
Well, there's short-sightedness on both sides which actually makes some trucks economically viable, simply because you can get them for a song while people are overpaying for fuel-misers.

Just one example: I looked at used Prius vs. SUV prices a while ago. 07 Prius, low mileage...went for $30k on ebay. 07 Explorer (loaded V8, same mileage) went for $14k. I ran the numbers and even with $4/gal gas it would have taken like 100k miles just to break even. And that's not even taking into account interest and resale value, because chances are a $30k vehicle will lose more value than a $14k vehicle.

The smartest thing you could do to save money when gas was $4/gal was to swap your Prius for a V8 SUV, as weird as that sounds.
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I think the best part is ppl with wrxs talking about MPGs. You're NOT getting much better MPGs then the ppl buying these trucks.
Eh... my 03 WRX averages 23mpg in the city and about 27mpg on the highway -- and I'm not a very "MPG conscious" driver. At 6000ft altitude on top of it. In contrast, my Denali gets about 12mpg city and 15mpg highway. Yeah, I think better start driving the Denali since I'm obviously not saving any money driving my WRX.
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