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Old 12-18-2008, 03:58 PM   #151
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It is very sad. I will not buy another Subaru until they get this whole mess figured out. It is pretty bad when it makes more sense to buy a American made car for reliability. Subaru has some serious issues to work out or they will lose their entire market share.
I really was going to buy a 09 about 3 months ago, but after seeing and reading all the posts from the last couple months there is no way i will purchase a Subaru again until they start making reliable motors.


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Old 12-18-2008, 04:47 PM   #152
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I've got an 09 at about 2k miles. Not had the problem... knock on wood.
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Old 12-18-2008, 04:51 PM   #153
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Same here, 2500 mi- Love it, no problems.
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Old 12-18-2008, 06:38 PM   #154
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+1 for NO problems at 1100 miles and VIN 9G800469
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Old 12-18-2008, 06:53 PM   #155
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No problems here as well, 2500kms . Allthough there is an odd vibration when i change gears at around 4000 rpm even with light throttle to bring it up to the 4G mark and change. Might bring it in to see what it is.
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Old 12-18-2008, 07:34 PM   #156
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2900 miles, and one of the first built. No issues *yet*.
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Old 12-19-2008, 12:41 AM   #157
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I would like to let you guys know that Subaru is aware of this problem. The reason I say this is because I contacted Mr Tim Colbeck, who is the VP of Sales for Subaru of America. I notified Mr Colbeck of the problems we the owners of the 2009 WRX were having and made him aware of this thread.

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Hello Mr Colbeck,
I am writing you in regards to the recent failure of several 2009 Subaru WRX motors due to rod bearing failures. I personally had my motor fail at 3300 miles after owning the car for 1.5 months. As the months continue, I continue to see other owners who have had the same problems as me. We are aware of the Stop Sale for the 2008 models due to internal failure in Europe and wonder why this problem continues to plague new owners. Frankly, we wonder why a new motor would fail under 5000 miles, with some owners having failures under 1000mi or even one owner who had a motor fail at aprox 150 miles. I have created a thread over at the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club website.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1648372

Any feedback on this matter would be appreciated. We the owners would just like to know if once a motor is replaced, will we not have this problem again, and what is being done to prevent future owners from having the problems that we are.
Here is his response.

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I'm sorry to hear of the trouble that you have experienced with your WRX. I understand your questions and also that you would want some reassurance that we are taking measures against future issues. I also read the thread that you supplied. At Subaru we pride ourselves on the quality of our products and also strive to give the best customer experience. It is clear form some of the posts that we are not always delivering on that promise.
I have forwarded your comments on to our Service and Customer departments. They are most qualified to give you the type of information you are asking for. They should be in touch with you soon.
Thanks for letting me in on your concerns.
Best Regards,
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True to his word, I recieved an email a short time later from the Service and Customer Dept

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Thank you for taking the time to contact Mr. Tim Colbeck to express your concerns regarding your 2009 WRX. Mr. Colbeck had read your e-mail and asked me to respond on his behalf.

First, I want to say that I am sorry to learn of the circumstances that prompted you to contact us. I took the liberty of contacting Subaru of Hunt Valley and confirmed with them that your vehicle has been equipped with a new replacement engine. Additionally, I am currently working with our Technical department to provide further insights into the questions you raised in your e-mail.

I expect to have a response in the next few days.
This was all done in a very timely manner and I appreicate the VP of SoA for taking the time out to answer me, a lowly owners questions and concerns. Just to prove that these guys are on the ball , I never supplied them with my VIN, or phone number or the email I used to sign up with my.Subaru. Yet they knew which dealer had replaced my motor.
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Old 12-19-2008, 12:55 AM   #158
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Good to know SOA officially knows about this now. Maybe they can figure how many people this is affecting, maybe even a range of engine/VIN numbers that could possibly be 'at risk.'
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Old 12-19-2008, 01:25 AM   #159
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yea my 09 is fast as fugg

thank gawd
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Old 12-19-2008, 08:29 AM   #160
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Hey TuningIsLife thank you for taking the time to do that! Also thank you to Mr. Colbeck.

As much as I have complained, if we could get the answers to these questions, and the problem has in fact been resolved, I would be satisfied and honestly this would be the best scenario for me. I've just assumed that we would not receive these answers. Hopefully I am wrong.
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Old 12-19-2008, 09:48 AM   #161
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I started the poll I mentioned in the warranty section:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1661872

09 owners please go there so we can gather some better data on this problem.
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Old 12-19-2008, 01:33 PM   #162
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No problems here as well, 2500kms . Allthough there is an odd vibration when i change gears at around 4000 rpm even with light throttle to bring it up to the 4G mark and change. Might bring it in to see what it is.

Ok, good.... I was hoping someone else had this issue as well. I had this issue before, and now after my engine swap (due to the bearing issue) . It sounds like a gurgle, or rumble/vibration (not in a good way) when you push in the clutch to shift. It usually occurs for me any time over 3k rpm's but is more noticeable when higher revving. I had originally assumed it was the rod bearing and would go away after the engine replacement, however it is back with the new engine. I'm hoping its not a repitition of a failure! I brought my car in 3 times for the noise, and had 3 techs confirm it didnt sound normal, however it was returned to me every time without resolve. They gave me the whole "if it breaks, we'll replace it" bull****.

On a side note, I too have the rev "hang" which is annoying...
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Old 12-19-2008, 02:26 PM   #163
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TuningIsLife
woody06967
Peppe316
sforzley (WRX265)
AshJWilliams
lightgod86
mono666
RATROKT
rschottr

Hmm I am growing more and more interested in something another member suggested but was dismissed by others, a list of those that have a 09 WRX. I cannot imagine that there are a terribly large number of NASIOC members with the new 09's. I wonder what the % with defects is...?

please add VVG to the list- thanks

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...06&postcount=8
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Old 12-19-2008, 08:15 PM   #164
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In addition to VVG I noticed 2 other names thus far who voted yes in the poll. RightyTighty and xaznxeclipsex.

If that is correct the list would then be:

TuningIsLife
woody06967
Peppe316
sforzley (WRX265)
AshJWilliams
lightgod86
mono666
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Old 12-19-2008, 08:31 PM   #165
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sadly enough all these damn engine failures that these new subarus keep having are enough to keep me away. Older gens are so reliable and good looking too.
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Old 12-20-2008, 12:46 PM   #166
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sadly enough all these damn engine failures that these new subarus keep having are enough to keep me away. Older gens are so reliable and good looking too.


You are aware that this is not the first gen of Subaru's to problems?
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Old 12-20-2008, 01:19 PM   #167
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Every motor has problems and a forum is the place you will always hear about it. Take a peak at mazda forums and you'll see people throwing rods through blocks on a stock motor lol. Neither issue would stop me from buying these cars.
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Old 12-20-2008, 02:17 PM   #168
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the stop sale and check procedures for the 08's (posted in another thread) is fairly revealing- basically a procedure looking for pieces of copper (bearing)- wish I had seen that earlier before I changed my oil- I would have sleuthed through the used oil more carefully
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Old 12-20-2008, 04:50 PM   #169
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^ won't the oil filter take all the (visible) pieces of metal out of the oil?

I'm wondering if the dark, chunky oil is an indicator as to whether the engine is going to go. It was mentioned earlier on in this thread that the tech tearing down a blown engine noted the oil was black and full of debris.
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Old 12-20-2008, 06:57 PM   #170
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Old 12-21-2008, 12:08 PM   #171
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Ok, good.... I was hoping someone else had this issue as well. I had this issue before, and now after my engine swap (due to the bearing issue) . It sounds like a gurgle, or rumble/vibration (not in a good way) when you push in the clutch to shift. It usually occurs for me any time over 3k rpm's but is more noticeable when higher revving. I had originally assumed it was the rod bearing and would go away after the engine replacement, however it is back with the new engine. I'm hoping its not a repitition of a failure! I brought my car in 3 times for the noise, and had 3 techs confirm it didnt sound normal, however it was returned to me every time without resolve. They gave me the whole "if it breaks, we'll replace it" bull****.

On a side note, I too have the rev "hang" which is annoying...
Same thing here and i hope this vibration is not symptome of near engine failure. But I think not because I observed this vibration since 4 or 5 weeks (with cold weather) and nothing more happened. I also noticed that the vibration don't occur when I rev the engine on neutral so it's maybe not linked to a motor issue.
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Old 12-21-2008, 12:53 PM   #172
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This may or may not help but...

VIN - 9G802912 w/ 6500 miles on the clock and no problems at all.
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Old 12-21-2008, 01:05 PM   #173
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I hadn't noticed any sort of vibration at any RPM until I had the rod bearing let go. But, if you can put the engine in neutral and hang it at around 4k RPM and there is no vibration I would think you are in the clear.

BTW, I did retake possession of my WRX on 12/20/08. It was the official problem; failed rod bearing and they replaced the long block. I could not pry anything out of them as to whether or not it would happen again; I was only told that it "shouldn't happen again". Typically I would have made the necessary phone calls to get more information but I currently lack the will to do so. I've been battling with the people at Dell for the last week and I just don't feel like doing the same with Subaru. I hope that we can gather the answers through this thread.
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Old 12-21-2008, 01:22 PM   #174
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Subaru Technical is supposed to be finding out those answers AshJWilliams. When I get an answer, I will let everyone know
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Old 12-21-2008, 03:09 PM   #175
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just had this happen to me yesterday.

2009 wrx
purchased less than two months ago
1300 miles
loud engine knock at 3k rpm, and when started
I dont have the VIN or manufactured date with me as I left my car in a lot and didnt drive it home.

Pretty upset about this. Going to call the dealership tomorrow
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