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Old 11-30-2008, 12:49 PM   #1
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Almost all of the auto manufacturers of Europe are concentrating on the latest generation of highly compact vehicles to confront the stringent emissions requirement scheduled to take effect in the next few years, and Audi is one of the most vigorous in the industry.

Audi is said to be toiling on a small number of the latest versions which are all ranked beneath the A3, as its present entry-level vehicle. A production variant of the A1 Metroproject concept will be included in these new models, which will possibly be available in an assortment of arrangements including 3 and 5-door versions, plus a Sportback, cabrio, and a hybrid.

Also, there will be an Audi variant of VW’s latest minicar, which will be patterned on an identical NSF platform observed in the up! concept vehicle. Lastly, the most current information shows that there will be an introduction of an heir to the poor-selling A2 compact

Audi will open an athletic hatchback with a high roof structure sometime in 2014, according to AutoBild. Of course, Audi is yet to substantiate the statement but Rupert Stadler, Audi CEO, has earlier said that the firm is “looking at different scenarios including a new A2.”



The initial version employed costly aluminum construction, which basically priced it out of the small vehicle category and led to its market disappointment. For the latest copy, Audi will share parts with sister-firm VW in an attempt to maintain low costs.

This signifies that it will probably share auto parts with the future generation Polo, together with several current compact 3-cylinder gasoline and diesel powerhouses. There is likelihood that Audi may open a variant with an electric motor propelling the rear axle and a gas engine running the front to produce a version of quattro AWD
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Old 11-30-2008, 01:28 PM   #2
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Speaking to the US market, I wonder if Audi could successfully pull off the launch of such a car. With recent ads focused on "replacing your Mercedes Benz" and showing husbands speeding down a residential street (that commercial really bugs me), value and responsibility aren't high on their list of priorities. Audi and value are two words that just don't go together, and I can't see this thing being anything but overpriced. I'll be watching, though.

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Old 11-30-2008, 05:21 PM   #3
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wow up til now at least Audi's looked good, even if they spent most of there time in the shop... but this one... UUUGLY
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Old 12-01-2008, 12:53 PM   #4
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wow that is terrible looking
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Old 12-01-2008, 01:10 PM   #5
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That looks like a stock photo of an Audi concept from 15 years ago....
I REALLY do not think that this A2 will look like that.
(I hope so at least)
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Old 12-01-2008, 01:15 PM   #6
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That looks like a stock photo of an Audi concept from 15 years ago....
I REALLY do not think that this A2 will look like that.
(I hope so at least)

Na,thats the same ugly car I keep seeing in these A2 articles.I think that's how it will look.All their other cars look good ,but the A2 is horrible..
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Old 12-01-2008, 01:35 PM   #7
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^^
I went to their UK site and that A2 is the OLD model (which isn't even sold anymore). This news story is about the next-gen model.

http://www.audi.co.uk/audi/uk/en2/used_cars.html
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Old 12-01-2008, 01:37 PM   #8
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I don't see Audi bringing the A2 to the states, the A3 is a hard sell as it is.

It might do well in Canada though.
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:56 PM   #9
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wow up til now at least Audi's looked good, even if they spent most of there time in the shop... but this one... UUUGLY
This one looks better than the car it replaces. Think mini Pontiac Aztec without the plastic cladding on you get the picture.
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:08 PM   #10
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Speaking to the US market, I wonder if Audi could successfully pull off the launch of such a car. With recent ads focused on "replacing your Mercedes Benz" and showing husbands speeding down a residential street (that commercial really bugs me), value and responsibility aren't high on their list of priorities. Audi and value are two words that just don't go together, and I can't see this thing being anything but overpriced. I'll be watching, though.

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Audi's been boggling my mind with their prices for a little while now. It almost seems to me like they are intentionally pricing their equivelent cars higher than other luxury marques to try to raise their brand image through sheer price. To encourage the, "If it's that expensive. it must be good...", mentality if you will.

Value = Zero.

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Old 12-02-2008, 01:07 AM   #11
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There will always be a certain brand of people who see a higher price and think it signifies a higher value. As long as they bring over a VW polo for the states I won't care much. It just boggles my mind how much of a premium you pay for the A3 over a GTI. They are essentially the same cars and the VW comes with so much more and just is so much cheaper.
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Old 12-02-2008, 06:55 PM   #12
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Since I own an A3 and a GTI I can tell you they are remarkably different.THe GTI is stilla hell of a value though.
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Old 12-02-2008, 07:25 PM   #13
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What do you consider the differences to be? On paper there don't seem to be that many. Could you PM me if you don't feel like mucking up this thread cause they are still on my list of if I ever come into a little money cars.


So supposedly the Audi will look something like this concept:


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Old 12-03-2008, 02:39 PM   #14
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I'll take the red one..
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What do you consider the differences to be? On paper there don't seem to be that many. Could you PM me if you don't feel like mucking up this thread cause they are still on my list of if I ever come into a little money cars.


So supposedly the Audi will look something like this concept:

This could be fun, now add the S or R to it and we are talking!
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Old 12-03-2008, 09:56 PM   #16
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I am comparing the base GTI with DSG to a mid level A3 with DSG, leather and big sunroof.

Starting with the interior, everything is better in the A3. The gaps are tighter, materials are nicer and the tactical feel is higher. The seats aren't as well bolstered but the S line adds more aggressive seats.

The A3 and GTI ride on the same wheelbase but the A3 is somewhat longer yet it feels much longer than the 2-3 inches it has on the GTI, but not in a bad way. The A3 is also much lower and subsequently feels wider (though I don’t think it is.) The GTI obviously rides stiffer but again I think the S Line takes the A 3 up to similar feel.

The DSG in the Audi seems to slip the clutches more than the GTI and this is in a bad way. It was disconcerting a few times when trying to go up a slight incline form a stop in the A3. I guess it is to give it a more luxury feel and make it less abrupt but it didn’t feel great.

When you are getting on both cars the feel the same but the GTI has an intake noise pipe plumbed into the cabin to bring some aggressive sounds. I like it, some people swap the A3 a pipe into their GTI’s to quiet it down but it isn’t offense to me at all.

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Nice pair of cars. Thanks for the comparison. It's these little details, like the clutch, that you can only get from real owners.

I remember going for a test drive in a GTI with the GF. You could really hear all the noises from the engine and she asked if that was our car since the windows were down. I said yes, thinking it would be a problem, but turned out she liked it. We both really liked the car but went subaru instead.

Again, very nice cars you've got there.
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Ugh double post. Well... I do think the one thing Audi will have going against it in a Mini match-up is it's poor reputation for reliability. Mini's rep is rock solid and I think that means alot to the Yuppies who gobble these cars up.
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Ugh double post. Well... I do think the one thing Audi will have going against it in a Mini match-up is it's poor reputation for reliability. Mini's rep is rock solid and I think that means alot to the Yuppies who gobble these cars up.
I don't know why you think Mini has a rep for quality. It's not the impression I have and is certainly not back up by the people that measure those things. They are literally next to last in JD Powers IQS, lower than even Land Rover. The only worse brand is Jeep. They are also in the bottom 1/3 in the VDS. Audi on the other hand is tied for 10th in the IQS, well above average and is about average in the VDS study.
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thanks for the kind words. We enjoy both cars very much. i can never go back to a Japanese car again
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