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Old 12-02-2008, 12:41 AM   #1
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3" inlet FP Green turbo - UR fmic kit - Tial BOV - 850 DW Injectors - Walbro pump upgrade - Aquamist HFS 1 - Access Port II - Turbo Smart E Boost 2

This car was tuned very mildly with 26 psi peak on pump gas with methanol - loads of low end hard hitting TQ - cant wait to dive it










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Old 12-02-2008, 12:45 AM   #2
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hey al whats w/ the dip in power @ ~42-4500rpm? why do some canbus cars do this?
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:09 AM   #3
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I think I forgot to turn off the traction control. LOL
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:11 AM   #4
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nice power, bye bye tranny haha
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:16 AM   #5
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is that a custom exhaust? nice numbers by the way
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:17 AM   #6
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any vids?

:edit:
nvm found it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59XPnBIedD4

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Old 12-02-2008, 01:20 AM   #7
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stock motor? 26psi and "very mildly tuned" doesnt make much sense to me.
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:41 AM   #8
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doubt its a stock motor.
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Old 12-02-2008, 02:52 AM   #9
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doubt its a stock motor.
why not?
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Old 12-02-2008, 03:14 AM   #10
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owner in the video clip says it's stock block
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Old 12-02-2008, 03:53 AM   #11
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any vids?

:edit:
nvm found it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59XPnBIedD4
Watch that whole video.

Guido with the M6

"Who installed this in your car?"

"MAAADDENN HORSEPOWWAAA"

Sweet Suby Though.
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Old 12-02-2008, 11:13 AM   #12
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stock motor? 26psi and "very mildly tuned" doesnt make much sense to me.
so boost is the only thing that mild/aggressive pertains too?

what if its 26 psi, 5* of timing at peak tq and a 10.8 AFR? is that mild?

is 20 psi, 20* of timing and 11.5 AFR mild?

is 23 psi, 16* of timing and 11.3 mild??

you're basing your whole POV of mild vs aggressive on boost.....

do you know or have any idea of what the cylinder pressures or EGT's would be with the above parameters?
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Old 12-02-2008, 11:27 AM   #13
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Cmon Phatron...don't you know that every tune is "mild" or "conservative"? Oh yeah...all dynos read low too.
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Old 12-02-2008, 11:28 AM   #14
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Wow that transmission is going to be hurtin!

Great numbers, very impressive torque
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:04 PM   #15
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stock motor? 26psi and "very mildly tuned" doesnt make much sense to me.
We have tuned stock motors to 30 psi

When I say mildly tuned this means we are not leaning on the timing and the a.f is nice and fat to make things as knock free and safe as possible

Not tuned on the edge
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:07 PM   #16
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so boost is the only thing that mild/aggressive pertains too?

what if its 26 psi, 5* of timing at peak tq and a 10.8 AFR? is that mild?

is 20 psi, 20* of timing and 11.5 AFR mild?

is 23 psi, 16* of timing and 11.3 mild??

you're basing your whole POV of mild vs aggressive on boost.....

do you know or have any idea of what the cylinder pressures or EGT's would be with the above parameters?

Thanks for your insight
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:22 PM   #17
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You seriously just called and threatened one of the guys at my shop for my above post? Could you be any less professional saying you want to "settle this face to face over the phone"?

Tons of people post that they make big power but the tune is conservative and safe for a stock engine. It's a paradox, much like the above quote.

Then you PM me with this threat:
"do you want problems with me?

Al"

Anyone that reads proven power bragging sees people saying this all the time and frankly it's humorous so I made light of it. I didn't say you did a poor job or anything. This isn't middle school. Get over it.
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:32 PM   #18
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You seriously just called and threatened one of the guys at my shop for my above post? Could you be any less professional saying you want to "settle this face to face over the phone"?

Tons of people post that they make big power but the tune is conservative and safe for a stock engine. It's a paradox, much like the above quote.

Then you PM me with this threat:
"do you want problems with me?

Al"

Anyone that reads proven power bragging sees people saying this all the time and frankly it's humorous so I made light of it. I didn't say you did a poor job or anything. This isn't middle school. Get over it.

A few points

#1 - I never interjected myself into yor threads with this kind of BS. Frankly, I am way to busy with my own stuff to worry about what other tuners are doing and make stupid remarks on their threads. This forum has become so filled with a bunch of haters with no respect who make snide remarks about other people's work and cars. Its a shame that the administration here tolerates this kind of nonsense. A real disappointment.

#2 - I called and contacted you as a professional respect as a fellow Cobb tuner to try and assertain what your problem is and see if it can be resolved directly Obviously, since you are a spinless sap you think a man who contacts you directly with an issue is somehow "unprofessional" Sorry to disappoint you, I don't roll by insulting people's work from behind the saftey and comfort of a internet connetcion. If I have a problem I contact YOU first and in PRIVATE to see what your beef is and if it can be resolved. If you call that unprofessional then I am as unprofessional as it comes then. This is the way I do things.

#3 - Obviously, I am wasting my time showing you any respect what so ever. I won't talk with or deal with you guys again.

Please do me a favor and stay out of my threads. If you have something to communicate to me directly you can pick up the phone or PM and call me as I just did to you. I will afford you the same respect as I always have and refrain from making stupid remarks in your threads - as I always have.

Al

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Old 12-02-2008, 12:39 PM   #19
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Great job AL, I am sure the car is nutz on the street.
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:39 PM   #20
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"conservative" is a relative term.

if one wants to define it based on boost, timing and afr then what exactly is conservative?

although i cant see the plots right now, i'll guess that there isnt any afr data on them...but the numbers are probably in this ballpark.

26psi
8-12* of timing at peak tq going up to 16-20* at redline
afrs ~11.2-11.4

although the timing and afr may be considered conservative, the power relative to stock is not. 49-52 lb/min turbos tuned on meth seem to be the most common fine line point of when peoples motors commonly blow.

no matter what any tuner says i highly doubt any of them have concrete data to show that any keeping any of those parameters (boost, timing, afr) below a certain level will gaurantee a motor to last.

Cylinder pressures are the most important thing and since they arent easily obtainable the next best parameter is the EGT since pressure and temp are closely related. on that note very few people have EGT gauges on their sti's and i cant remember the last time i saw any EGT data posted.

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Old 12-02-2008, 12:49 PM   #21
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You crack me up. Calling someone directly to resolve an issue is not immature and unprofessional. Calling our shop and dropping F bombs and threatening to come up here and kick our asses to the first guy that answers the phone who has no idea what you're talking about...and doing it all over a simple joke...now that's unprofessional and immature. Grow up.

We got the threatening phone call and PM. You've made it clear you want to kick our asses. Point taken. Carry on. I'm done with your threads.
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:52 PM   #22
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Sorry Al, to funny not too.

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Old 12-02-2008, 12:53 PM   #23
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You crack me up. Calling someone directly to resolve an issue is not immature and unprofessional. Calling our shop and dropping F bombs and threatening to come up here and kick our asses to the first guy that answers the phone who has no idea what you're talking about...and doing it all over a simple joke...now that's unprofessional and immature. Grow up.

We got the threatening phone call and PM. You've made it clear you're a middle school bully who wants to kick our asses. Point taken. Carry on. I'm done with your threads.
I did not threated to kick anyone's ass

I attempted to resolve what ever issue you have

Thanks
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:54 PM   #24
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good power Al, how do you like the E boost 2?
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:54 PM   #25
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Sorry Al, to funny not too.

Hey Brother !

How are things down there in Atlanta ?

I am very Subi craxy these days.

Al
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