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| View Poll Results: Help me choose a spark plug prior to my 18G tune | |||
| OEM Iridium |
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9 | 40.91% |
| One Step Colder |
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10 | 45.45% |
| Coppers |
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3 | 13.64% |
| Voters: 22. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 191212
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Location: Nashboringville
Vehicle:'07 Forester XT-5MT ToBe: E85 TD06SL2 8cm 20G |
About to go 18G 2.5L.
Don't mind changing frequency of Coppers. This is a 2.5L and will be less than 350whp, do I really need one step colder?
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Big Ron
Moderator Member#: 18062
Join Date: Apr 2002
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Location: I can save you a ton of cash
Vehicle:on car parts so PM me b4 j00 buy |
This first question you should ask yourself is do I know where to post at? That answer is no and it's annoying to 200,000 NASIOC users. If you don't know where to post, do so in the Newbies forum. Also we have a Spark Plug FAQ that is stickied at the top of 4 forums here that you need to read to help answer your own question.
Moving..... |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 191212
Join Date: Oct 2008
Chapter/Region:
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Location: Nashboringville
Vehicle:'07 Forester XT-5MT ToBe: E85 TD06SL2 8cm 20G |
you could have voted at least...I did not know service and maintenance even existed.
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Big Ron
Moderator Member#: 18062
Join Date: Apr 2002
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Read the Spark Plug FAQ and you'll interpret my vote through careful reading comprehension.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 191212
Join Date: Oct 2008
Chapter/Region:
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Location: Nashboringville
Vehicle:'07 Forester XT-5MT ToBe: E85 TD06SL2 8cm 20G |
if voting please include rational, otherwise vote is worthless.
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NASIOC Supporter
Member#: 16200
Join Date: Mar 2002
Vehicle:OK Houston we have an Uncle |
2.5L heads mean 25mm reach plugs which means that you dont need colder plugs at 18g power levels
copper is the best conductor copper plugs usually cost ~$2/ea which means that you get all 4 for the cost of less than one of the other type copper plugs are NOT easy to 'kill' when 'gapping' them Platnium and iridium plugs are REAL EASY to kill when 'gapping' them dont make polls |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 191212
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Location: Nashboringville
Vehicle:'07 Forester XT-5MT ToBe: E85 TD06SL2 8cm 20G |
^thanks if I go Iridium I will get them pregapped.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 191212
Join Date: Oct 2008
Chapter/Region:
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Location: Nashboringville
Vehicle:'07 Forester XT-5MT ToBe: E85 TD06SL2 8cm 20G |
polls are worthless bump
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 191212
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Location: Nashboringville
Vehicle:'07 Forester XT-5MT ToBe: E85 TD06SL2 8cm 20G |
bump.......
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NASIOC Supporter
Member#: 16200
Join Date: Mar 2002
Vehicle:OK Houston we have an Uncle |
stock plugs are fine
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Join Date: May 2006
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Location: South-East PA
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Scotty makes good point, i'll take up the other side.
How often do you want to change them? Copper plugs tend to wear out faster and need replacement i'd say every 15-20k on a modified "tracked, or hard driven" vehicle that encounters high RPM, usage for sustained periods of time. Iridium lasts longer, comes from the factory in most cars today and generally can be replaced every 60k or more even in high performance applications. With that sad, the small benefit of copper plugs conducting better isn't worth the added cost and time to swap them on a more frequent basis. I use Iridium Plugs. Just my .2 |
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 137939
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: IA
Vehicle:06 wrx Aspen White |
I'd like to use coppers, but has anyone figured out a part number for the coppers for an 06 wrx? So far sticking with stock iridium
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 118500
Join Date: Jun 2006
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Location: Michigan
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All spark plugs have copper core center electrodes (with the exception of some really cheap ones). Saying you want to use a copper plug is simply falling prey to marketing. There are 3 basic types of spark plug, standard nickel, iridium, and platinum spark plug plugs, and all of these have copper core center electrodes. You have a few other variations, but those are the basics. Iridium and Platinum are virtually same as far as the car is concerned.
Stick with the stock spark plug, you really cannot go wrong. If you are going to lay down a lot of power, you will probably have to have the car professionaly tuned. They will tell you what plug to use. |
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Scooby Specialist
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The standard nickel plugs (copper as you call them) do not tranfer heat any better (the iridiums contain the same copper core as the standard nickel plugs), and they are worse for performance compared to iridium. The only advantage is they are cheaper.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 191212
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Location: Nashboringville
Vehicle:'07 Forester XT-5MT ToBe: E85 TD06SL2 8cm 20G |
^Most tuners I have talked to recommend Coppers but I do agree with you, benefits -if any- do not justify the hassle of frequent swaps, increased risk of stripping head plug cavities, etc.
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 112667
Join Date: Apr 2006
Chapter/Region:
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Location: Coquitlam
Vehicle:2002 WRX wagon WRB |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 118500
Join Date: Jun 2006
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Location: Michigan
Vehicle:02 Silver Wagon "Stage 2" |
I know that most tuners talk about "coppers" but it has become quite an industry misnomer. Marketing by champion has put it into a lot of peoples heads that only thier plugs contain copper, or are completely made out of copper(!). Anyway, to be correct, the center electrodes are made of nickel and contain a copper core to better transfer heat (all plugs have this). Even iridiums (or platinums) are nickel electrodes, they just contain a tip made out of iridium (or platinum).
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